The People's Hero Posted 8 June 2006 Posted 8 June 2006 Ah - right you are. You won't catch me doing anything sensible like checking dates!
The Reverend Posted 8 June 2006 Posted 8 June 2006 That's exactly the type of player I don't want (and before you say it, I don't mean the quality of Makalele, I mean the role he plays) We don't need another defensive midfielder. If you read my posts above, I wasn't saying that it's easy to find a 5-10 goals a season midfielder but you can enhance your chances of getting one if you look to bring a midfielder in with attacking instincts. Micah Hyde who has a very poor goal scoring record for a midfielder in the 12-13 years he's been playing won't help us achieve this. At 31/32 it is very unlikely he will suddenly find how to score and that's my point. As a defensive midfielder Hyde would be a great squad player for us, but with our limited transfer budget we don't and can't afford to purchase 2 central midfielders. If we did sign Hyde then we'd have to rely on Wesolowski or Williams to provide us with 'goals' because Hughes will be employed as a winger and although he'll score his share, I was rather hoping that we'd also have a central midfielder to chip in like Gudjonsson did. Because take Joey's goals away and we possibly might be playing League One football next season. So don't start having a go at me being unrealistic because i'm not being. I'm fully aware of the financial bother we are in and that's why it's essential Rob Kelly is prudent with his budget and finds us the right players, however difficult it is for him. That's what makes a good manager, to wheel and deal. To unearth good players at cheap prices, but i'm also not going to shoot the man down if he can't always find them in abundance. But Micah Hyde isn't the answer, it's still early in to the pre-season so we don't need to rush in to signing a central midfielder. Are you telling me that Hyde is the only midfielder available in our budget? If so then it will be a hard summer and season for other clubs in our situation. Im just stating a fact Ric. I appreciate that we dont need another defensive midfielder. I also disagree with you about Gudjonsson. How hard is it to put a penalty away? I would have no problems giving the ball Fryatt on the penalty spot. Its a fact that about 50% of his goals came from penos and i dont believe that he will be that hard to replace. The fact is that a huge club like leicester being relegated with him playing every week would have been a massive blemish on his footballing c.v. Like any footbller he wanted to keep that off his c.v so decided to up his performance. In fact, Gudjonsson is exactly the sort of player we can do without at this football club. The fact that he scored a few stunners seems to have somewhat blurred the vision of some supporters. Ooooh, controversy!!!
Leicester Lass Posted 8 June 2006 Posted 8 June 2006 Stoke have released Gerry Taggart today - possible coach for us??
Jay Posted 8 June 2006 Posted 8 June 2006 Stoke have released Gerry Taggart today - possible coach for us?? what drinking coach?? I am sure with him and Elliott on board we could have the best drinking team in the Championship!!!
who-izzet Posted 8 June 2006 Posted 8 June 2006 I see we have been linked with Dan Harding again & a couple more could be coming.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 8 June 2006 Posted 8 June 2006 I think this talk about needing a midfielder who will score goals is missing the point completely. If we had a decisive defensive midfielder (I'm yawning myself to say it but think Neil Lennon, only on our current level), then we would really take hold of games and free up Hughes and Williams to play in their more natural positions further up the pitch. You might say those two don't or won't score enough goals but we're not in a position to replace them (nobody wants them and we can't afford to keep them as backup for any potential new signing). People are mentioning Weso in this role but even if he was to make the position his own, we still need someone else who can play there. I know things have got bad at this club but surely not so bad that we have to rely single-handedly on a kid, who's played about half a dozen games and has broken his leg twice, in the most important position on the whole damn pitch? If you look at the Watford blueprint, which I think a lot of people are holding up as a model by which we could hope to succeed next season, they had Gavin Mahon in midfield - solid, reliable, unspectacular. That's what we're missing in the middle of the park. With someone like that behind them, it would be up to Hughes or Williams to demand selection by making the most of their relative freedom. We're no longer in a position to say "you're not good enough, sling your hook". The wage bill reduction means we are stuck with the players Adams and Levein bought, pretty much, if there are no takers for them for a transfer fee. It's not just the midfield who need to buck up their ideas in the goalscoring department. The defence needs to make more of a threat of itself at attacking set pieces as well. With the presence of Kisnorbo, McCarthy, McAuley, Johansson and Stearman we have to pose more problems from corners and free kicks next season. It was one of the main reasons we went up under Micky Adams. Of course, this is also down to the delivery. In my perfect world, we'd sign two more players - a left winger (who could deliver a decent set piece) and a central midfielder. Admittedly, a lot of this is based on one game. That Southampton game last day of the season scared the hell out of me. Our midfield was horrible without Gudjonsson and I don't think Weso can save it by himself. If Kelly is going to make the most of this talented bunch of youngsters then he needs to replace Gudjonsson effectively, else we'll be left with a lightweight midfield that will be easily bypassed.
The People's Hero Posted 8 June 2006 Posted 8 June 2006 You say we need another Neil Lennon and you're not far off. Even someone like Billy McKinlay would do it, he was fantastic for us.
Ric Flair Posted 9 June 2006 Posted 9 June 2006 Im just stating a fact Ric. I appreciate that we dont need another defensive midfielder. I also disagree with you about Gudjonsson. How hard is it to put a penalty away? I would have no problems giving the ball Fryatt on the penalty spot. Its a fact that about 50% of his goals came from penos and i dont believe that he will be that hard to replace. The fact is that a huge club like leicester being relegated with him playing every week would have been a massive blemish on his footballing c.v. Like any footbller he wanted to keep that off his c.v so decided to up his performance. In fact, Gudjonsson is exactly the sort of player we can do without at this football club. The fact that he scored a few stunners seems to have somewhat blurred the vision of some supporters. Ooooh, controversy!!! I'm not heralding Gudjonsson as a world beater, but without him in our team we really were a soft team to play against. Williams and Hughes together in the centre, is like falling over on a bouncy castle - It doesn't hurt you. Joey did score alot of his goals from the penalty spot and you'd hope Fryatt could score all of them, but I still think that without a player in midfield who can score goals alongside a midfielder who will control things and dictate play will ruin us next season. I'm not that bothered that Joey has gone, because for all his wonderful goals he scored this season he also gave the ball away alot. Wesolowski is a better player than him in my opinion and he'll control the midfield just how it's needed to be done, but we need a player alongside him who can support the strikers and chip in with goals. Unfortunately for Gudjonsson he had to play both roles last season, he had to control the midfield and also get forward to score goals for us. Anyway this is boring now, it's down to Kelly to sort this out. We were linked with Lunt who is the type of midfielder I am talking about that's needed, so hopefully Kelly has the same ideas as me for our midfield. Hyde has been ruled out anyway so again, perhaps Kelly is looking at an attacking midfielder to be bought in. I hope!!!!
davieG Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Leeds and Foxes in Gunners race Mon, Jun 12 2006 08:37 Leeds look to be in a race with Leicester City to secure the services of Arsenal winger Ryan Smith. The 19-year-old enjoyed a successful loan spell at Leicester last season and it is thought Leicester would like to do a similar deal for the forthcoming season but Leeds are ready to step in with a cash offer of £500,000 for the winger. Smith's chances of first team football at Arsenal are very limited and the Gunners may decide the time has come to sell him rather then just allow him to go out on loan for season after season.
Ric Flair Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 Leeds and Foxes in Gunners race Mon, Jun 12 2006 08:37 Leeds look to be in a race with Leicester City to secure the services of Arsenal winger Ryan Smith. The 19-year-old enjoyed a successful loan spell at Leicester last season and it is thought Leicester would like to do a similar deal for the forthcoming season but Leeds are ready to step in with a cash offer of £500,000 for the winger. Smith's chances of first team football at Arsenal are very limited and the Gunners may decide the time has come to sell him rather then just allow him to go out on loan for season after season. I am interested to know whether this is true or not because it would surprise me if Kelly would try and bring Smith back. It seemed to me that it ended quite badly between Smith and Kelly, which is a shame because I think Kelly could have got alot out of Smith. I would love it if he were to come back here, on loan or permanently. He's far from the finished article and he might have a suspect attitude, but he was the best player to play on the wing for us last season by a country mile. There were alot of fans from opposing clubs who commented on Smith after they'd played us because he was that good.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 I am interested to know whether this is true or not because it would surprise me if Kelly would try and bring Smith back. It seemed to me that it ended quite badly between Smith and Kelly, which is a shame because I think Kelly could have got alot out of Smith. I would love it if he were to come back here, on loan or permanently. He's far from the finished article and he might have a suspect attitude, but he was the best player to play on the wing for us last season by a country mile. There were alot of fans from opposing clubs who commented on Smith after they'd played us because he was that good. I think it's probably more a case of some bored, lazy sports journo getting some info about Leeds being interested in Smith and presuming we'd be after him as well because we had him last season, without bothering to look into how, why and when the loan ended.
The Reverend Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 I think it's probably more a case of some bored, lazy sports journo getting some info about Leeds being interested in Smith and presuming we'd be after him as well because we had him last season, without bothering to look into how, why and when the loan ended. I'd love him back here to be honest. All you muppets who were slagging him off a few weeks ago are probably the same muppets who loved him when he was here. He is class, far too good for this level and with massive talent for someone his age. GET HIM NOW! Before its too late!
Fez of Mahrez Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 I'd love him back here to be honest. All you muppets who were slagging him off a few weeks ago are probably the same muppets who loved him when he was here. He is class, far too good for this level and with massive talent for someone his age. GET HIM NOW! Before its too late! For all his talent, we looked a lot better as a unit when he wasn't in the side.
breadandcheese Posted 12 June 2006 Posted 12 June 2006 I'd love him back here to be honest. All you muppets who were slagging him off a few weeks ago are probably the same muppets who loved him when he was here. He is class, far too good for this level and with massive talent for someone his age. GET HIM NOW! Before its too late! He has a lot of talent, but in the end is about as effective as Joe Hammill. Smith will go on a great run, beat two or three players and then nothing. Nil. Nada. His end product is poor. If this can be changed, he will be a top quality player. Until that, he is a show pony who offers nothing. If Kelly believes he can do what Arsenal's coaches couldn't and make him a truly effective player, rather than a little showhorse, he will be awesome. Truth is, I would rather have Welsh. Better crosser of the ball. Without a proper right winger in the team (i.e. Hughes on the right), the width and service from the left becomes crucial.
Ric Flair Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 Heard a rumour that we are in talks with Sheff Utd about bringing in Alan Quinn.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 Heard a rumour that we are in talks with Sheff Utd about bringing in Alan Quinn. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. On a scale of nought to reliable, how reliable is your source? I would love Alan Quinn here as long as he played left wing. It might not be his best position but it would sort us out on the left side no end.
The People's Hero Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 Heard a rumour that we are in talks with Sheff Utd about bringing in Alan Quinn. Good player. Also we could sing Quinn The Eskimo.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 Good player. Also we could sing Quinn The Eskimo. And The Mighty Quinn And Alan Quinn's Disco Pants. I demand we sign him. The possibilities are endless.
The People's Hero Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 And The Mighty Quinn And Alan Quinn's Disco Pants. I demand we sign him. The possibilities are endless. Quinn The Eskimo IS The Mighty Quinn. But I won't mock because I like the cut of your jib.
Ric Flair Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. On a scale of nought to reliable, how reliable is your source? I would love Alan Quinn here as long as he played left wing. It might not be his best position but it would sort us out on the left side no end. I was having a few beers last night with a lad who claims he's friends with the Kelly family. I've never had any info off him before so it's definately not nailed on. I would also welcome Quinn here.
Manwell Pablo Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 Just Heard Gifton Noel Williams to Leicester rumour. Fandabedoze <_<
The People's Hero Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 Just Heard Gifton Noel Williams to Leicester rumour. Fandabedoze <_< But we already have Elvis Hammond in the quick and black but rubbish category. If anyone tries to tell me the above is racist, I might actually kill them. Wankers.
Fez of Mahrez Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 But we already have Elvis Hammond in the quick and black but rubbish category. If anyone tries to tell me the above is racist, I might actually kill them. Wankers. If they believe in equal opportunities then they'll be after you too
The People's Hero Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 If they believe in equal opportunities then they'll be after you too Yeah, we haven't had a really sh it white striker for a while. I say bring back Graham Fenton.
teblin Posted 14 June 2006 Posted 14 June 2006 but he is bigger than Elvis. another option i guess. No money = average players.
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