Leicester City Ultras?

[The People's Hero]

Good idea. If everyone in the stadium moved round one block, the atmosphere would be much better.

[Floating Fox]

I've been monitoring this thread for a while now and fully support the principal of an'Ultra' style group. However, I understand the idea of having a section either side of the away fans (as at Soton) but I think the club will be against any take over of N block. Have I got this wrong, but isn't N block an overspill for away fans. If the singing got going in the Kop then there would be considerable noise created. I know the Kop can be quiet sometimes but generally that reflects what is happening on the pitch but what makes people think that L block are the only section that sing. L block, while there to intimidate and provoke responses from away supporters, cannot be heard from the Kop. If people sing for long enough the noise continues. I've heard and been involved in sustained chanting from the Kop and I reckon the sooner L block move back to the Kop the sooner the atmosphere will return.

It is a shame that LCFC put the away block in the wrong place when they got togther when planning the stadium but I fear that what could be seen as a provocative move into the family enclosure will be stopped.

Ultra groups in the Kop. That's where they should be. Singing in isolated pockets is the root of the current situation. There is a danger that there will be two small groups of singers and standers (L and N blocks) and still no atmosphere.

That is a good idea but One of our aims is to try and claw back some of our reputation.

Away fans come to the walkers and say it's awfull atmosphere even when the Kop do sing.

I know that a reputation isn't that important but If we could get block N it would be easier.

No block N is neither part of the faily stand or part of the away fans it is a small section to the right of away fans.

I dont quite understand what you mean when you say there could be two groups of standers and singers but no atmospshere becasue if they are standing and singing surely that is wha an atmosphere is?

[a-fox]

http://uk.video.yahoo.com/video/play?ei=UT...OREIGN%2BFIELDS

that will inform you about ultras abit and wot there about. the kop would be a much better place to have it

[Floating Fox]

http://uk.video.yahoo.com/video/play?ei=UT...OREIGN%2BFIELDS

that will inform you about ultras abit and wot there about. the kop would be a much better place to have it

That video is nothing about what we want to do total opposite.

The Uk Ultra sence is totally different. They Aren't hooligans.

[Wezleylowski]

I think its an absoloutely fantastic idea . a place for passionate fans to go without some yuppie cock staring at you like hes never been to a football match before . roll on the walkers colts (just a suggestion)

[potter3]

The Ultras movement, or simply Ultras, is the name given to organized supporters' groups for sports teams, mostly European and South American supporters of football (soccer) teams. This fan sub-group appeared in Italy during the late 1960s when football teams reduced ticket prices on certain areas of the stadiums. Not to be confused with the British football firm and Casual cultures, although some of their supporting style is imitated. Although violent acts might occur, hooligan acts are more the exception than the norm.

The Ultra culture is a mix of several supporting styles, from the scarf-waving and chants of early English stadia, Brazilian Torcida and the original Italian style. An Ultra group can be composed from few dozens to hundreds, mixing several parts of the community, claim entire sectors of the stadium for themselves and get involved in the team rather more often than regular fans.

Four points are the core of a ultra mentality:

• Never stop singing during the whole match, no matter the result;
  
• Never sit down during matches (as opposed to armchair fans);
  
• Follow as many games possible, regardless of costs or distances;
  
• Loyalty to the Curva (the stand in which the group is located).
  

Although Ultras groups can become violent, unlike hooligans most games go with no incidents or minor scuffles with the local police force. Unlike hooligans, Ultras follow to support their team rather than go head to head against locals. Another difference between Ultras and hooligans is that the hooligans like to be inconspicuous when they travel as to avoid detection by police, whereas Ultras are the opposite as they like to be more conspicuous when they travel and like to arrive en masse, which allows the police to keep a close eye on their movements.

From Wikipedia

This are parts of the article that refer to any sort of hooligansim, and as you can see, Ultra group are about creating atmpshere, and not hostility.

Its another reason why it is a good idea to take the names of people involved, and if they start being hooligans it would be easier to find out who it is, and stop them/ bann them

[James.]

From Wikipedia

This are parts of the article that refer to any sort of hooligansim, and as you can see, Ultra group are about creating atmpshere, and not hostility.

Its another reason why it is a good idea to take the names of people involved, and if they start being hooligans it would be easier to find out who it is, and stop them/ bann them

i would avoid using the word 'ultra' in the campaign.

no matter what the official definition is it is still a word that conjures up images of hooliganism.

[Ultra]

I'm flattered and amused that so many posters appear attracted to the concept of the "Leicester Ultras".

In reality though, it's about as likely as Mandy signing Ronaldinho for us.

While I was intrigued to learn of the existence of Palace and Swindon "ultra" groups, among others, I have to note that their organisation and activities in comparison with their counterparts in Italy and Spain, bring the name of a Disney character immediately.

And I can't see the police or any club being to thrilled either.

[Leonisco]

And I can't see the police or any club being to thrilled either.

All right then, that's it. Let's give up now, lads, the club and police won't like it. Let's just carry on being sheep and letting them dictate how we watch football games.

If that's your attitude then prepare to be clapping along to the gay PHG remix for a while. <_<

Yes we should meet with them and try to sort something out, but if they don't like it - so what? Are we just going to roll over and let the authorities continue to ruin the game for the fans? The whole traditional matchday experience is gradually fading away and I for one do not want the game to be taken over by the rich ponces with their flasks and prawn sandwiches.

I salute all the lads who are trying to get this off the ground - it's a fantastic idea.

[James.]

I'm flattered and amused that so many posters appear attracted to the concept of the "Leicester Ultras".

In reality though, it's about as likely as Mandy signing Ronaldinho for us.

While I was intrigued to learn of the existence of Palace and Swindon "ultra" groups, among others, I have to note that their organisation and activities in comparison with their counterparts in Italy and Spain, bring the name of a Disney character immediately.

And I can't see the police or any club being to thrilled either.

read the thread. it's not about copying the nutters in italy and it's not about giving up at the first sign of negativity from the police or club.

[potter3]

We just want a place in the stadium that has a good atmosphere, and is only filled with people who wish to create an atmosphere. At certain matches the atmosphere can be electric (not so much this season unfortunately) but it can be and I've experienced it. What about the Wolves game a couple of years back, about 3 full blocks of us were singing for about 10-15 minutes non-stop, and you could see the boost it gave the team, they scored but about 5 minutes after we stoppod singing we went back to normal and Wolves scored. If we could create that sort of atmosphere for every game, even just half a block, it would dramatically improve the matchday experience, and this is a plausible way of creating that atmosphere.

[shrood]

@ the boys trying to organising this, really don't take any notice of some of the totally negative attitudes on here...yes, there are a great deal of hurdles to overcome, but even if it eventually fails you've wasted your time in a far more productive than just sitting on the internet, moaning about how bad the atmosphere at the walkers is.

I'm very suprised that although there's obvious examples of it being established at English football league clubs, people are saying it could never happen to us. It's not like the people in charge of this club are hell bent on killing off all the atmosphere and making match days a misery, they've tried in numerous ways to make the walkers more lively, they just haven't been very good at it. So I don't see why they'd be completely adverse to letting us have a go.

I do agree with the concerns over the word 'Ultras' though, I'm not saying it has necessarily been used by hooligan groups in the past but when someone says it to me I do for some reason automatically think of facist Lazio *** tearin up the Olympico

[john_lcfc]

have you emailed the club yet or are you in the process of doing so? can you post your email to the club and there response if you get one?

if the club say no we dont want an ultra group. then i think we should just go ahead with it anyway.lets try to get the clubs backing but if not then screw the club, lets do it and show we are not going to continue sitting in the kop (to you kopites) surrounded by old people,kids and general happy clappers who moan if you stand up for a corner.

i think it should be placed in N block or L1 but thats another question whether the club like it or not. we are the fans we want to sing/support our team and at the moment fans are being dictated to and just sitting at many grounds on a saturday in silence. bring back football.

[Fox63]

That is a good idea but One of our aims is to try and claw back some of our reputation.

Away fans come to the walkers and say it's awfull atmosphere even when the Kop do sing.

I know that a reputation isn't that important but If we could get block N it would be easier.

No block N is neither part of the faily stand or part of the away fans it is a small section to the right of away fans.

I dont quite understand what you mean when you say there could be two groups of standers and singers but no atmospshere becasue if they are standing and singing surely that is wha an atmosphere is?

The point I was trying to make regarding your last paragraph is that if you have an isolated block (L) and another isolated block (N) with only a small number of singers then the atmos is concentrated in those 2 isolated blocks. If the whole of the Kop was considered ULTRA then there would be considerable noise and atmosphere which would filter into other areas ie the south stand end of the East stand. I hope this clarifies my point. Your idea of penning in the away support with ULTRAS will be seen as intimidatory by the club and should be done without the clubs approval if that is the way you see the movement progressing.

I still support the idea but at the moment..thats all it is.

[potter3]

Thats basically how the Kop is now, all the singers are scattered about, plus a few in the East Stand (apart from L1)

The point in having a section for singers is to pack them together so that the atmosphere is better, and the noise createdit louder, and the chants will also last a lot longer than it does now

[Kilworthfox]

This idea has been born from years of poor atmosphere at the Walkers which has not created a good matchday experiance scince we left the prem.

These good people who are trying to organise this ( the best idea that deserves this attention) should be backed by those who were thinking of moving to L1 from the Kop in particular.

If the club are anti this idea then they do not want a good atmosphere at the games. I personally believe that they are happy with the current arrangements as they have done nothing positive about this obvious issue.

If the club refuse this idea then we have to be smart about it! the only real way to change things is to remove your funding! The club would soon realise the importance of this hardcore group!

We are Spion Kopites!

[Fez of Mahrez]

You might want to spell the checking of genius. Could lead to a bit of ridicule, y'know?

[Kilworthfox]

You might want to spell the checking of genius. Could lead to a bit of ridicule, y'know?

Been a long day an all that

[filbertway]

You might want to spell the checking of genius. Could lead to a bit of ridicule, y'know?

I always thought it was genious, until one day someone pointed me to the better more credible version "genius" ive never really looked back since

[Floating Fox]

The point I was trying to make regarding your last paragraph is that if you have an isolated block (L) and another isolated block (N) with only a small number of singers then the atmos is concentrated in those 2 isolated blocks. If the whole of the Kop was considered ULTRA then there would be considerable noise and atmosphere which would filter into other areas ie the south stand end of the East stand. I hope this clarifies my point. Your idea of penning in the away support with ULTRAS will be seen as intimidatory by the club and should be done without the clubs approval if that is the way you see the movement progressing.

I still support the idea but at the moment..thats all it is.

If the kop was "considered" ULTRA what would be the difference?

It would surely just be the same unless we moved everyone out (which would never happen)

Surely if we asked for one block (N) then that is easier, and as said before I see no Harm in simply asking the clubs view upon this.

Kilworth thanks for that agree with what you are saying, A poll will be set up tonight - as well at the website which will be revealed tonight - To decided the Group's name.

[john_lcfc]

If the whole of the Kop was considered ULTRA then there would be considerable noise and atmosphere

we have to be realisticand the thought of the kop becoming all ultra.. standing,singing,flag waving is about as likely as us winning the championship// it aint gonna happen so a dedicated group of people need to move to an area which will become new,fresh and a singing area

the kop is the last place to place for this group IMO and if it is placed in the kop L1ers and kopites are unlikely to move/join the group as it will be too similar to the present situation......

[Fez of Mahrez]

It'd be more credible in the Kop. Would just look like a bunch of overexcited kids if you tried to "claim" a section of the Family Stand.

[Guest]

I've emailed Peter Jones. Due to the nature of the contents I can't post what I've written. But I've basically asked for some clarification over a few points discussed earlier in the saeson. Hope that's ok.

[Floating Fox]

I've emailed Peter Jones. Due to the nature of the contents I can't post what I've written. But I've basically asked for some clarification over a few points discussed earlier in the saeson. Hope that's ok.

Cheers.

We're still going to email him ourself's to put our view over and see what he says.

[Guest]

Cheers.

We're still going to email him ourself's to put our view over and see what he says.

If you want to do something, you must email him. The more people that tell the club, the better your chances are.