Leicester City Ultras?

[Jonbluefox9]

If the club were bothered about setting up a stand meant purely for families then why did they extend the free under 8s offer to the whole stadium? The idea of a family stand is pretty pointless now. When we first moved it seemed to work a bit better but now the whole stadium has become a family friendly zone and that's one of the reasons the atmosphere has died.

[Fez of Mahrez]

The club would be idiots to agree to moving singers to the right hand side of the away fans. They have had enough trouble with L1. They don't care enough about the atmosphere to risk inciting trouble. However good your intentions are, this Ultra thing would be easily manipulated into a front for hooliganism.

[Tommeh]

I'm certainly all for moving with the ultra's I certainly think it would be better taking over the family stand. But the Kop remains a decent possibility.

I only have two worries

1) I'll end up getting an ST back in the kop and 1st games being told to sit down because my row is too low and doesnt qualify for the ultras section. But obviously thats where the clubs support would come in.

2) If all the decent fans evacuate L1 then what will be left kids between 10 and 16 who have hardly ever been and start singing songs such as " We heard you slept with your sister" or fatty give us a wave" some of these songs I fear give us a very bad name and I'm imbarrased to be associated with these songs.

[lildave3]

I'm certainly all for moving with the ultra's I certainly think it would be better taking over the family stand. But the Kop remains a decent possibility.

I only have two worries

1) I'll end up getting an ST back in the kop and 1st games being told to sit down because my row is too low and doesnt qualify for the ultras section. But obviously thats where the clubs support would come in.

2) If all the decent fans evacuate L1 then what will be left kids between 10 and 16 who have hardly ever been and start singing songs such as " We heard you slept with your sister" or fatty give us a wave" some of these songs I fear give us a very bad name and I'm imbarrased to be associated with these songs.

We had a few of these in the kop for the Barnsley game, six of them singing 'Who da fuk is cardiff'

[lcfc_jme]

nice one jme you've certainly got my support mate

If the family stand switch went ahead the kop would surely finish. Funny if it got louder after everyone moves

Thanks.. I'll let you know when the site is open mate Long as you leave your name and email address I'm pleased

Yeah, I'm not knocking your idea at all, I think it's good, but I think the chances of the club giving you a spot in the family stand are basically none...surely the whole point of it is, to create an atmosphere where people will be happy to go with kids because there won't be people chanting songs with naughty words in.

Would love to see it work in the kop though, maybe even return it to something like it was at filbo, but then of course you've got the problem of the L1ers (who say what you want about them, are passionate, vocal fans, ideal for this kind of thing), who might be reluctant to return after making a stand and moving away, and have warmed to being able to abuse the away fans.

Aye. As implied before, we're going to put a couple of suggestions forward to the club so that if they disagree with the whole giving us block N thing, there is an alternative in place and they can consider that as a safer alternative. It'll just help to have a couple of different ideas that could be implemented so that the club can't dismiss it too easily

I think somebody else was right in some ways when they said the whole stadium had become family friendly. People in the Kop refrain from singing because they almost feel guilty about swearing infront of peoples kids.

We can't assure the club that all the songs will be free from naughty words, and if this is why they won't give us a part of the family stand, then we'll ask them why they have extended the under 8's tickets to the Kop as well

[Jonbluefox9]

I'm certainly all for moving with the ultra's I certainly think it would be better taking over the family stand. But the Kop remains a decent possibility.

I only have two worries

1) I'll end up getting an ST back in the kop and 1st games being told to sit down because my row is too low and doesnt qualify for the ultras section. But obviously thats where the clubs support would come in.

2) If all the decent fans evacuate L1 then what will be left kids between 10 and 16 who have hardly ever been and start singing songs such as " We heard you slept with your sister" or fatty give us a wave" some of these songs I fear give us a very bad name and I'm imbarrased to be associated with these songs.

You forgot "2-0 up, fatty still don't sing" and "Fatty, start the wave" after just conceding the second goal in an embarassingly poor home performance.

[Fez of Mahrez]

I'm certainly all for moving with the ultra's I certainly think it would be better taking over the family stand. But the Kop remains a decent possibility.

I only have two worries

1) I'll end up getting an ST back in the kop and 1st games being told to sit down because my row is too low and doesnt qualify for the ultras section. But obviously thats where the clubs support would come in.

2) If all the decent fans evacuate L1 then what will be left kids between 10 and 16 who have hardly ever been and start singing songs such as " We heard you slept with your sister" or fatty give us a wave" some of these songs I fear give us a very bad name and I'm imbarrased to be associated with these songs.

1) Harsh reality - The club would never instruct the stewards to allow standing just because some kids decide to form a glorified singing club. No offence intended. Some people may be allowed to stand at the moment but the sort of group you lot are after forming would be clamped down on by the club for standing.

2) We already have a bad name. No away fan is impressed with L1.

[Tommeh]

We had a few of these in the kop for the Barnsley game, six of them singing 'Who da fuk is cardiff'

Certainly some songs in L1 are very silly but the people who start them are not ST Holders and are probably just looking for something to do on a saturday.

Btw you now have more posts than me

[Vestan Pance]

I fully support a group who want to bring our vocal support back together. Forget the kop it's gone, it's history, just a name. The only problem is the club who will want to have a big say in this, I would start to involve them when it gets off the ground, that way you have something to bargain with.

Standupandsing I'll PM you, might be of some use.

[lildave3]

1) Harsh reality - The club would never instruct the stewards to allow standing just because some kids decide to form a glorified singing club. No offence intended. Some people may be allowed to stand at the moment but the sort of group you lot are after forming would be clamped down on by the club for standing.

2) We already have a bad name. No away fan is impressed with L1.

They all describe L1 as 'about 200 Chavs to our left trying to sing' Like you say, no one is impressed with it and the sad thing is it's our most vocal point of the stadium.

[lildave3]

Certainly some songs in L1 are very silly but the people who start them are not ST Holders and are probably just looking for something to do on a saturday.

Btw you now have more posts than me

I know i've been going a bit posting crazy lately Too much spare time

[Fez of Mahrez]

Also, you all need to take the apostrophe out of your sigs. It's Ultras, not Ultra's. Might seem petty but it all helps to make it look professional.

[Bert]

"Leicester City Ultra Is"

[potter3]

Hopefully it will also go some way to getting all the vocal supporters at away games to all be together, and create more noise and atmosphere.

[Jonbluefox9]

They all describe L1 as 'about 200 Chavs to our left trying to sing' Like you say, no one is impressed with it and the sad thing is it's our most vocal point of the stadium.

It is sad because without those '200 chavs' who sing in L1 the away fans would hear virtual silence throughout the 90 minutes because you just can't hear the Kop from the away corner. That's not a dig at people who sit in the Kop, it's a fact. The best home support I'd seen for a while was at Derby where they flanked the away end and it sounds like the Southampton set-up was similar.

I think the club could move the away fans to behind the North goal therefore no complaints about the access from the away buses etc. This is what it was like at Derby and it enabled vocal support to form on either side.

[Tommeh]

Can't imagine Derby are that good at every game though they had 28,000 odd against us and we were very loud also, but their set up was certainly very good and if they and soton get away with passionate singers on either side of the away fans why can't we??

Hull certainly have the same problem as us they have a L1 style set up in the corner + side stand and like us they soon quiten down and nobody else in the stadium makes a noise. We're not as bad as wolves though. They had some good singing at times but the atmosphere was non existant until levi scored

[lildave3]

Can't imagine Derby are that good at every game though they had 28,000 odd against us and we were very loud also, but their set up was certainly very good and if they and soton get away with passionate singers on either side of the away fans why can't we??

Hull certainly have the same problem as us they have a L1 style set up in the corner + side stand and like us they soon quiten down and nobody else in the stadium makes a noise. We're not as bad as wolves though. They had some good singing at times but the atmosphere was non existant until levi scored

I'm sure whever is putting the e-mail together could use Southampton's setup as an example to prove that it can be done safely.

[Tommeh]

I'm sure whever is putting the e-mail together could use Southampton's setup as an example to prove that it can be done safely.

Thanks for pointing that out thats what I was trying to say but its getting late and I'm tired

[Jonbluefox9]

Can't imagine Derby are that good at every game though they had 28,000 odd against us and we were very loud also, but their set up was certainly very good and if they and soton get away with passionate singers on either side of the away fans why can't we??

Hull certainly have the same problem as us they have a L1 style set up in the corner + side stand and like us they soon quiten down and nobody else in the stadium makes a noise. We're not as bad as wolves though. They had some good singing at times but the atmosphere was non existant until levi scored

They did get that "we're the North bank, we're the North bank", "we're the South bank, we're the South bank" going at Wolves a couple of times but other than that they were poor. Maybe a better atmosphere there when the lower tier sels out and they put some away fans in the stand behind the goal to the right as you see it on TV.

[lcfc_jme]

I'm sure whever is putting the e-mail together could use Southampton's setup as an example to prove that it can be done safely.

Aye this will be put in the email

The email should be written by Sunday night and being sent probably some time on Monday if the site gets enough signatures over the weekend

[Tommeh]

would be good if the ultras and L1 could get that chant going. whether it would work or not who knows. Although smany people I sit near in L1 were taking the michael out of soton fans when they were doing it, twas actually very amusing.

[lildave3]

would be good if the ultras and L1 could get that chant going. whether it would work or not who knows.

Well if our name was to be 'Spion Kopites' we could do the 'We're the spion kop, we're the spion kop, we're the spion kop over here' not sure about L1 though.

Before anyone says we used to sing this at Filbo, i know.

[RowlattsFox]

Well if our name was to be 'Spion Kopites' we could do the 'We're the spion kop, we're the spion kop, we're the spion kop over here' not sure about L1 though.

Before anyone says we used to sing this at Filbo, i know.

'we're the L1, we're the L1, we're the L1 over here'

[Daggers]

With due respect to all ~ your campaign stands as much chance of success as Kelly has of being in charge this time next season...if you ask for permission.

L1 already has tacit allowance for people to stand...so just go there with your flags and join in ~ no permission, no bollocks. No one at the club is going to give you an enclosure. No one at the club is going to grant you permission, this is not Italy.

If you want this then the more you all procrastinate the less it will ever happen. Just do it; no website, no emails, no permission seeking, no 'what shall we call ourselves', no sticky threads - just do it.

People decry the families and yet here you all are acting like polite, nice middle class boys. If you create a place for yourselves and make a noise, like minded people will join you.

[lcfc_jme]

If you want this then the more you all procrastinate the less it will ever happen. Just do it; no website, no emails, no permission seeking, no 'what shall we call ourselves', no sticky threads - just do it.

People decry the families and yet here you all are acting like polite, nice middle class boys. If you create a place for yourselves and make a noise, like minded people will join you.

I appreciate what you are saying Dave. We're looking at doing things through the club so they could be certain that there would be no trouble/hooliganism involved in what we're trying to do. I wonder, though, if we'd have just stormed in and taken over an area next to the away fans whether people would have branded us all chavs as well (like they have with L1) and said we were hooligan wannabes just there to cause trouble?

It's a no-win situation in some respects imo.