Come on then tell me what Levi Porter does?

[The People's Hero]

Porter was absolute dross yesterday but is above criticism for most people because he came from the academy.

The same people who still probably believe that Tommy Wright and Chris O'Grady are the answer to all our problems.

Porter has had a decent season but was absolutely garbage yesterday.

[STUHILL]

Lets be honest, judged on todays performance, Porter looked very average! Yes he may not have got much service but the few occasions he did, he wasted good oppotunities. As for Maybury, I agree he played ok defensively but as for hoofing the ball long every chance he got!!! Absolute waste of space, Yes Nils maybe a bit slow but at least he tries to use Porter as an outlet. Like i've said before, attacking players like Hume, Porter and Fryatt, will all benefit dramatically by playing with better players. These guys are trying to play the right kind of attacking football, i.e high tempo, on the ground and running at people. Players like Maybury bypass all this by the constant retarted idea that the long ball is more effective!

[holly]

Why does he get away with performances like that? One of the worst I have seen from any Leicester player all season including Hammond. Thank Christ Maybury was on his game again because that headless chicken offered nothing. Ran round like a lost sheep.

Great cross :laugh: oh yeah and shot when it was easier to square it or even shoot across goal, but no lets wang it at the already covered near post, f'ckn clown.

Giles Barnes was poor today but Porter will never even hit those heights.

maybury on his game AGAIN i`m sorry u have officially lost the plot, maybury did alright yest tbh. but AGAIN no way, giving away penalties, getting caught out continuously, giving away silly free kicks i`m sorry but thats not on his game.

Yes porter didnt have his greatest game but he wasnt given the ball much and why should he go looking for it? he is a winger and atleast he stays on his wing ready for other options. He tracked back well yest and put some pressure on the derby defence.

[Mack]

Levi Porter is young and has things to learn if he is to become the 'complete' senior player, however, at his stage in a career he looks very promissing indeed and no one should judge him as the finished article yet.

I would imagine in the coming season with better players around him he will bloom into something quite special.

[Toby or not Toby]

Thought he was the pick of the 4 midfielders who started. Jarrett is laughable, slow cumbersome and uses his fat arse to push players out the way. He was missing for the whole first half. Tiatto was his usual shite thuggish self.

The thing that stood Hughes out from the other 3 incompetants was that when the crowd turned on him after his 5 minute spell of pish in the first half he stayed with it and never hid. People call him a bottler, he has more heart than most out there.

Admittedly we scored when he went off but he never deserved to be pulled, he was the only one putting his foot on the ball throughout.

Still if you want a team of headless chickens then you are getting them in Jarrett, Tiatto, Porter, Hume and Hammond. Personally I prefer to see my players on the ball and not twirlling round like the tazmainian devil.

what game was you watching, tiatto was one of few players that showed passion he was everywhere, he will be missed next season

[Finnegan]

what game was you watching, tiatto was one of few players that showed passion he was everywhere, he will be missed next season

Wrong. Fact.

One good performance doesn't redeem a toss player. It's that sort of fickle naivety that BartonFox thrives off.

[Thracian]

Holy christ, you're all out tonight aint'cha.

Porter never once gave a decent option all afternoon.

Perhaps if there was a hint of movement then Maybury wouldn't have had to launch the ball 50 yards.

How the f'ck can you say Porter was one of the only good things in our midfield today? He was utter dog filth he only touched the ball about 8 times. F'ckn useless.

Porter was clearly playing under strict instructions and Maybury could still have hit him with passes lots of times if he could have been both3ered to surge forward for the potential return pass.

Whacking high balls was the simple option of a man not really at home with his position. And Kelly equally clearly told him to change second half.

[The People's Hero]

You'd be taken a lot more seriously when harping on about how good Porter/Hammond etc are if you could just at least admit it when they are cr ap and perform to an unacceptable standard.

Until you do this, your opinion will be considered blinkered by many.

[Thracian]

You'd be taken a lot more seriously when harping on about how good Porter/Hammond etc are if you could just at least admit it when they are cr ap and perform to an unacceptable standard.

Until you do this, your opinion will be considered blinkered by many.

My opinion is just that - and what you think about it is up to you.

But for someone who's probably never even been to Belvoir Drive you sure seem to have a jaundiced view of Porter and our other fringe youngsters.

I don't actually think any of our players were "crap" as you put it. I think a draw against the League leaders is a commendable result in the circumstances.

Some just didn't play well - and I've already mentioned Porter in that group so I've no idea what you're bleating about really.

Or are you just irritated that I've tried to identify reasons for our performance - and reasons that didn't just involve Porter either?.

[Sly]

He doesn't have the freedom to break up the system, that's obvious. He's clearly under particular instructions as to his role.

And Porter is not a particularly tricky player he's a passer and as I've mentioned elsewhere we are allowing him to make the best of that ability either with our team selection or our rigid and too cautious tactics.

Hughes was nothing special at all today and for the usual reasons. He just doesn't prompt enough penetration from midfield and never has enough conviction in the attackin penalty area.

His one shot was a perfect example. He took time and trouble but in blasting the shot he leaned away from th ball and lost his balance. It was a typical Hughes shot really.

Apart from that he never really got through to where it hurt but made periphery passes. It makes him forever look involved but there is so little product.

We never swamp forward in numbers when we attack and he is part of the reason but by no means all of it.

I really fail to understand why Kelly persists with 4-4-2 with our personnel. We don't have a genuinely effective winger in the club, apart from Newton who looks like he'll never be fit and Gradel who clearly doesn't suit.

That's appalling I know. But given that it's a fact we need another system which will give us balance and a smooth momentum.

And how we need passers and movers as Fryatt emphasised briefly. with him back we could easily play 4-3-3 and the need to have anyone out of position would disappear as would the need to keep humping the ball in the air - a tactic which simply defies belief to me.

What you are saying Thracian is so so true.

[BartonFox]

My opinion is just that - and what you think about it is up to you.

But for someone who's probably never even been to Belvoir Drive you sure seem to have a jaundiced view of Porter and our other fringe youngsters.

I don't actually think any of our players were "crap" as you put it. I think a draw against the League leaders is a commendable result in the circumstances.

Some just didn't play well - and I've already mentioned Porter in that group so I've no idea what you're bleating about really.

Or are you just irritated that I've tried to identify reasons for our performance - and reasons that didn't just involve Porter either?.

We were f'ckn diabolical again yesterday. Derby were dreadful and yet 99% of the fans sit back and think 1-1 against that shower of shite is acceptable.

Porter is a complete waste of space, I bet anyone a grand he won't be in the top 2 divisions within 2 seasons.

[Daggers]

Porter is a complete waste of space, I bet anyone a grand he won't be in the top 2 divisions within 2 seasons.

Define that further and I may take up your offer of a bet

[Ultra]

We were f'ckn diabolical again yesterday. Derby were dreadful and yet 99% of the fans sit back and think 1-1 against that shower of shite is acceptable.

Porter is a complete waste of space, I bet anyone a grand he won't be in the top 2 divisions within 2 seasons.

The sheep were poor. Only the ref saved them from the hiding they deserved. How Darren Moore stayed on the pitch for the full 90 minutes is one of the mysteries of the season (apart from the fact he has a regular spot in in a table-toppoing side).

But Kelly's team selection was again dire. Johansson should have come back, and Hughes should never have started. How many shockers does he need to have before the manager dumps him from the squad?

Porter could well go backwards next season, especially if Mandaric is sufficiently retarded to let the present fcukwit stay in charge.

[Geo V]

Porter was clearly playing under strict instructions and Maybury could still have hit him with passes lots of times if he could have been both3ered to surge forward for the potential return pass.

Whacking high balls was the simple option of a man not really at home with his position. And Kelly equally clearly told him to change second half.

Maybury did little to help Porter either by getting forward or his distribution but its not just down to Maybury to find Levi but its down to the others and also Levi to give more options. At times he just stood around like a statue and when he did get it he did fook all with it. Why you would atempt to blame everyone else bar Levi for his sub-standard performance baffles me. Just say he played poorly against Derby and move on instead of trying to defend the undefendable.

BTW its interesting reading the stuff about Maybury. If you watch the game back he did some very good things defensively which is what he is ultimately in the side for but was woeful foing forward. Im not his biggest fan but he certainly doesnt deserve so many bad ratings and reports on that performance. Once again Im only talking about Fridays game and not the previous 30+!

[Babylon]

I think Levi suffers from the same problem Hume does, i.e the players around them just aren't good enough. I thought Maybury was useless today (as always) So many times he pumped the ball forward with no outcome, is he retarded or something! Did he not see it wasn't working! I feel sorry for Porter, Hume, Kisnorbo, Henderson, Fryatt and Tiatto for having to play with those useless lot! GET RID OF THE CRAP!!!!

I suppose the other players are to blame for the shit crosses porter put in in the last 10 minutes.

[Babylon]

Porter was clearly playing under strict instructions and Maybury could still have hit him with passes lots of times if he could have been both3ered to surge forward for the potential return pass.

Whacking high balls was the simple option of a man not really at home with his position. And Kelly equally clearly told him to change second half.

What instructions to play shit?

[potter3]

Porter was poor on Friday, but he can play better, and would benifit if the rest of the team was higher in vision/quality/confidence. Quite a few times the ball was with one of our midfielder in the middle or on the right, and Porter was in acres of space, and early ball played to him then would have stretched Derby and given him room to get a cros in. And it was the same with Maybury, times and times he could have player an early ball, when Porter was in space, but delayed it and Porter was closed down.

[Kilworthfox]

Levi once in a while turns up and produces a good / match winning performance, unlike most of our current world beaters.

Wolves away example for you

He is however very inconsistent i agree

[Flynny]

What instructions to play shit?

Don't scoff, it explains Johnson.

[potter3]

Levi once in a while turns up and produces a good / match winning performance, unlike most of our current world beaters.

Wolves away example for you

He is however very inconsistent i agree

Consistancy should improve as a player grows older and more experienced though.

[filbertway]

I don't think Porters a bad player, if he was taller and stronger I think he would be a great player for this division. He doesn get alot of space to himself, there was about 6 times he was free on the left but no one ahd the vision to pick him out.

However I can't defend that miss, why didn't he aim for the far post, although afterwards I think he knew after that he should have gone for the other corner, which I suppose is good and hopefully he'll learn from that.

I do think he has one of the best footballing brains in the team though, and he's about the only player who excites me when he's running at a defender (yeates as well but he often fails to deliver). I'd give porter another seaon or two to develop and if he's not really improving then sell him on.

[Thracian]

We were f'ckn diabolical again yesterday. Derby were dreadful and yet 99% of the fans sit back and think 1-1 against that shower of shite is acceptable.

Porter is a complete waste of space, I bet anyone a grand he won't be in the top 2 divisions within 2 seasons.

You must have money to burn.

[Thracian]

Maybury did little to help Porter either by getting forward or his distribution but its not just down to Maybury to find Levi but its down to the others and also Levi to give more options. At times he just stood around like a statue and when he did get it he did fook all with it. Why you would atempt to blame everyone else bar Levi for his sub-standard performance baffles me. Just say he played poorly against Derby and move on instead of trying to defend the undefendable.

BTW its interesting reading the stuff about Maybury. If you watch the game back he did some very good things defensively which is what he is ultimately in the side for but was woeful foing forward. Im not his biggest fan but he certainly doesnt deserve so many bad ratings and reports on that performance. Once again Im only talking about Fridays game and not the previous 30+!

But I haven't. I feel Porter had an indifferent game but he can hardly put things right himself if he's so clearly under instructions to hug the left line to provide width when we get possession.

Of far more concern to me though is your assertyion that Maybury is primarly there to defend.

It is one of the fundamental flaws with our whole approach and I've mentioned it time and agai.

If our management and our fans are going to put up with full-backs who don't support the attack we will never get anywehre and will never score enough goals.

I forever fail to understand while forwards like Porter, Hume, Hughes are forever expected to track back industriously but someone people excuse defenders to be as industrious, going forward.

We need two fast, aggressive, energetic full-backs. I don't give a toss who there are but if we seriously want to win things that's a requirement...and it's been a problem for two seasons now.

Maybury is capable enough of doing it on the right but seems totally alien to him on the left.