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Posted (edited)

even when Webbo tries to be conciliatory , he gets it thrown back into his face :D

The way he keeps calling me by my first name, I thought he was trying to be friendly. :(

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They might have been negligent and if they had have been off a council estate they would have been crucified that's true but they don't deserve to have their child took from them and their child doesn't deserve whatever fate befell her.

Spot on.

Cameron is surely setting a precendent here. If you re-open the files on one missing person you've surely got to re-open the files on all of them. Plenty of similarly tragic cases which have had nowhere near the publicity the McCanns have had over the years.

Posted (edited)

The way he keeps calling me by my first name, I thought he was trying to be friendly. :(

when people such as sosban appear to be friendly . i always think of that old poem about the spider and the fly

“Will you walk into my parlor?”

Said a spider to a fly;

“‘Tis the prettiest little parlor

That ever you did spy.

:)

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The way he keeps calling me by my first name, I thought he was trying to be friendly. :(

Oh, I'm sorry, I just assumed that when you hinted I was being melodramatic and somewhat party-biased that you'd be astute enough to expect a rebuttal. :whistle:

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In no way am I saying that anyone would deserve what happened - it is the worse thing I can think of that could happen to any parent.

Oz - what they did is even remotely close to any of your suggestions - they were on the other side of complex having drinks.

I wasnt saying that the things i listed were equal (clearly they are not) however, i was making the point, that as a parent, i made mistakes that risked the health of my child. I do not believe that ANY parent can claim perfection..we have all made errors of judgement and placed our children at risk.

Certainly leaving kids alone in the situation they did is at the top end of mistakes..BUT... to see people here HOPING they are suffering is just cruel and in my opinion STUPID... i think you can be guarenteed.. they ARE SUFFERING.

Also dont hold them responsible for the media's reporting..yes they try to keep her name in the papers..wouldnt you if it were your child!

But, if anyone enjoys wishing ill toward people who have had the ultimate pain, well, good luck in your life.

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I wasnt saying that the things i listed were equal (clearly they are not) however, i was making the point, that as a parent, i made mistakes that risked the health of my child. I do not believe that ANY parent can claim perfection..we have all made errors of judgement and placed our children at risk.

Certainly leaving kids alone in the situation they did is at the top end of mistakes..BUT... to see people here HOPING they are suffering is just cruel and in my opinion STUPID... i think you can be guarenteed.. they ARE SUFFERING.

Also dont hold them responsible for the media's reporting..yes they try to keep her name in the papers..wouldnt you if it were your child!

But, if anyone enjoys wishing ill toward people who have had the ultimate pain, well, good luck in your life.

surely no-one can argue with this , can they ?

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I think its a disgrace that Madeleine McCann's parents can call the Police a disgrace and all that, when they were the one's that left 3 children alone, they should have responsibilities. It doesn't matter that they were checking up every 30 minutes, there responsibilies should have been their children and now they are blaming the Police and authorities.

I do feel for Madeleine like but she'll probably not know she was even kidknapped now, if she is still alive.

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They should be careful what they have wished for. I hope they are asked the questions they refused to answer the Portuguese Police, resulting in them becoming arguidos...

Fact is that the dogs indicated someone dead in that apartment.

Fact is that there is no evidence of abduction.

Fact is the McCanns changed their story about how they entered the flat when they checked.

Fact is they have not told us what they did the previous night.

Fact is they have some serious heavyweights batting for them.

I'm hoping something new comes out this review.

Like those text messages.

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They should be careful what they have wished for. I hope they are asked the questions they refused to answer the Portuguese Police, resulting in them becoming arguidos...

Fact is that the dogs indicated someone dead in that apartment.

Fact is that there is no evidence of abduction.

Fact is the McCanns changed their story about how they entered the flat when they checked.

Fact is they have not told us what they did the previous night.

Fact is they have some serious heavyweights batting for them.

I'm hoping something new comes out this review.

Like those text messages.

Text messages?

Posted

You're sounding like some conspiracy theorist larry ( that's not an insult although it's somehow become one )

Surely if the McCanns know there is something serious to incrinate themselves by keep re-investigating , they would be more inclined to keep a low profile rather than keep fanning the flames .

Most guilty suspects don't tend to act this way , although it could be a double bluff

I'm not saying it's an impossible scenario , but just that it seems unlikely and in reality , maybe , the original investigation was indeed badly flawed

but i'm always prepared to keep an open mind :thumbup:

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You're sounding like some conspiracy theorist larry ( that's not an insult although it's somehow become one )

Surely if the McCanns know there is something serious to incrinate themselves by keep re-investigating , they would be more inclined to keep a low profile rather than keep fanning the flames .

Most guilty suspects don't tend to act this way , although it could be a double bluff

I'm not saying it's an impossible scenario , but just that it seems unlikely and in reality , maybe , the original investigation was indeed badly flawed

but i'm always prepared to keep an open mind :thumbup:

The Portuguese don't think the investigation was flawed. Our racist media (sardine munchers etc.) rattled that line out to the point of boredom and mud has stuck.

Dont forget, also, that the British police helped develop the case for the McCanns to be made formal suspects. The DNA was collected and analysed by us and also the cadaver dogs were British.

I would have thought they'd keep a low profile as well.

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My opinion.

The press made the Madeline Mccann story too big. If the family had been off a council estate, It'd never become as big.

Posted

I don't get the continued attention over Maddie. Children are abducted quite frequently and never make the news let alone make the news years later. It was the parents fault too so they shouldn' t be getting so much public sympathy.

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On more than one occasion this week I've seen a mother chatting on their phone walking out of a shop with automated doors with an empty pushchair seemingly totally oblivious to their child some distance behind looking somewhat lost. In one of the instances the mother actually stopped to light a fag whilst still talking and with their child the other side of the now closed doorsdunno.gif

NB, I'm sure it could just as easily be a Dad.

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My opinion.

The press made the Madeline Mccann story too big. If the family had been off a council estate, It'd never become as big.

Shannon Matthews anyone!?

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In my opinion ,If you have small children, don't leave them on their own. It's not rocket science.

Exactly my point. Its a disgrace that they did that, and thats why they are at fault.

Were they going back every 30 minutes? Someone could easilly have been watching and timing the 30 minutes.

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They should be careful what they have wished for. I hope they are asked the questions they refused to answer the Portuguese Police, resulting in them becoming arguidos...

Fact is that the dogs indicated someone dead in that apartment.

Fact is that there is no evidence of abduction.

Fact is the McCanns changed their story about how they entered the flat when they checked.

Fact is they have not told us what they did the previous night.

Fact is they have some serious heavyweights batting for them.

I'm hoping something new comes out this review.

Like those text messages.

I don't know the significance of these changes in their story so maybe I'm making a moot point, but I think anyone could be unsure about specific details.

They'd be so emotional I think it's only fair to allow stories to lack a little clarity.

spelling edited so as not to grind foxys gears

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I'm making a mute moot point,

Much better. ****ing does my head in. How can you make a mute point?!

Guest ttfn
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Would you say that, if it was your child? You are pathetic.

Obviously not, but it's not my child, so I can be objective - I'd far rather they spent the money on kids who have recently gone missing.

This is obviously tragic, but there are clearly more important issues that could be resolved with the cash.

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