Atomic Turkey

[WetFlannel]

Why do we persistantly create excuses for Fryatt, whilst easily discarding other players such as John at present, or Stearman... I think Fryatt ios massively over-rated, and has done anything to really impress me, that Hume or John cant do...

[Thracian]

I've always called him Fantasy Fryatt and despite his refreshingly encouraging perfomance yesterday it's hard to get away from the facts.

Fryatt has scored just 11 goals in around 64 matches spread over three seasons so far, at roughly equal rates per season, and that's nowhere near good enough for a first choice striker.

Three in 18 starts this season - that's one goal in six - compares with 4 in 23 last season and the same in his first season.

What is it about fans which persuades them to ignore reality when they simply want a guy in the team?

He's not big on providing assists either and, as I warned both this close season and last, our lack of sufficient goals is acting like a brake on any chance of us making progress to the other end of the Championship table.

He may get a few more goals under Holloway's guidance but I'd be surprised if there was a major transformation.

Why? Because, while I've never doubted his skills on the ball, he just doesn't have the range of other attributes nor the physique, speed and strength necessary for a front line Championship marksman and I don't really see how he's going to get those things. He's a bench alternative really.

Not that I like to say that after his effort yesterday.

[lildave3]

Remarkable thread !!!! what a bunch of dead heads some of you lot really are, Matty was nothing short of superb, beats players for fun, is damn near impossible to dis posess and full of running from start to finnish. The donkey from Craven Cottage is`nt fit to clean Fryatt`s boots, can`t hit a bovine posterior bith a banjo and clearly does`nt give a jot, the sooner Jan 23rd comes and he can be sent back the better !

I find that ridiculous.

And that's just your use of apostrophes.

[reynard]

I've always called him Fantasy Fryatt and despite his refreshingly encouraging perfomance yesterday it's hard to get away from the facts.

Fryatt has scored just 11 goals in around 64 matches spread over three seasons so far, at roughly equal rates per season, and that's nowhere near good enough for a first choice striker.

Three in 18 starts this season - that's one goal in six - compares with 4 in 23 last season and the same in his first season.

What is it about fans which persuades them to ignore reality when they simply want a guy in the team?

He's not big on providing assists either and, as I warned both this close season and last, our lack of sufficient goals is acting like a brake on any chance of us making progress to the other end of the Championship table.

He may get a few more goals under Holloway's guidance but I'd be surprised if there was a major transformation.

Why? Because, while I've never doubted his skills on the ball, he just doesn't have the range of other attributes nor the physique, speed and strength necessary for a front line Championship marksman and I don't really see how he's going to get those things. He's a bench alternative really.

Not that I like to say that after his effort yesterday.

I agree with most of this and consistancy and a not especially good goal scoring rate are against him. However, against Ipswich he was the difference between the two sides He had 1 good shot from outside the box which had it had slightly more air would have been a goal. He should have had at least one assist but Hume missed a sitter. His movement off the ball and skill on it was too much for the Ipswich defence and midfield and he got to the near post on more than one occassion something not one of our other strikers has done all season. When he joined us his strike rate was acceptablebut for some reason has fallen away badly. I have always believed that strikers hunt best in pairs and has Fryatt ever been fortunate to play alongside a decent striking partner with an equivalent footballing brain. Not at city he hasn't. Against Ipswich we should and could have won by at least 4 goals. The fact we didn't was down to the inadequate strike force playing alongside Fryatt. He needs to play to that level each game but if he can and judging from what we have all seen of this mediocre league this season then Fryatt will create a lot of space and openings we just need to put a decent striker alongside him not the continuous trail of donkeys we have had to put up with over the last few seasons and this.

[Thracian]

I agree with most of this and consistancy and a not especially good goal scoring rate are against him. However, against Ipswich he was the difference between the two sides He had 1 good shot from outside the box which had it had slightly more air would have been a goal. He should have had at least one assist but Hume missed a sitter. His movement off the ball and skill on it was too much for the Ipswich defence and midfield and he got to the near post on more than one occassion something not one of our other strikers has done all season. When he joined us his strike rate was acceptablebut for some reason has fallen away badly. I have always believed that strikers hunt best in pairs and has Fryatt ever been fortunate to play alongside a decent striking partner with an equivalent footballing brain. Not at city he hasn't. Against Ipswich we should and could have won by at least 4 goals. The fact we didn't was down to the inadequate strike force playing alongside Fryatt. He needs to play to that level each game but if he can and judging from what we have all seen of this mediocre league this season then Fryatt will create a lot of space and openings we just need to put a decent striker alongside him not the continuous trail of donkeys we have had to put up with over the last few seasons and this.

Inadequate strike partners or not, Hume still managed four times as many League goals from that admittedly lousy service in less than twice as many matches.

[WetFlannel]

We've had every excuse under the book for Fryatt now, so he had better start performing... I still dont consider him good enough for us

[reynard]

Inadequate strike partners or not, Hume still managed four times as many League goals from that admittedly lousy service in less than twice as many matches.

Actually Hume has 28 league goals to Fryatt's 11 in about double the matches and a lot more time on the pitch. Plus at least 3 of Humes league goals were penalties.

Now I'm not saying Hume is a bad player or that Fryatt shouldn't do better but against Ipswich Fryatt created a lot more than Hume who actually created next to nothing though admitedly out of position. The truth is that probably neither are the long term answer to our striking position Just out of interest Hume has spent 348 more minutes on the pitch this season than Fryatt.

[Bert]

Bristol City.

That was only 89

And, i think the only thing DJ poses over Fryatt is pace.

[mickydeeeuk]

i must have been watchin a different game cuz i thought fryatt was quite poor again, he might have been slightly better than of late but wasted the ball too much for my liking, that said collins john was really quite sh!t IMO!!! ....will we ever score a half decent goal from open play????? dont look like it with those two! i just prey we get connelly back he has class finish/touch we need!

that said i should say i am a fan of fryatts and deffo think we should keep him, cuz the boy will come good!!

[Wezleylowski]

We've had every excuse under the book for Fryatt now, so he had better start performing... I still dont consider him good enough for us

We still have the ones in the book to use up then

[WetFlannel]

Will still have the ones in the book to use up then

How the hell did i type that

[Wezleylowski]

How the hell did i type that

I don't have the Mistiest

[Ultra]

I think the only thing DJ poses over Fryatt is pace.

..plus a far better goals per game ratio..

[danny.]

How the hell did i type that

i think you were about to say 'under the sun', but had one of those mid-sentence change of thoughts..

i do that a lot, although it's normally when i'm speaking, not writing, which makes me look like a bumbling idiot.

[Monk]

One month on and Fryatt is totally out of favour. Would those who were singing his praises in this thread have him back over Bazza, Howard, Hume or DJ?

And more importantly, do you think he'd actually make a difference. Funny how all of a sudden we have 2 strikers who can put the ball in the net (albeit still not enough) that all you Fryatt lovers have piped down a bit.

[maddog]

One month on and Fryatt is totally out of favour. Would those who were singing his praises in this thread have him back over Bazza, Howard, Hume or DJ?

And more importantly, do you think he'd actually make a difference. Funny how all of a sudden we have 2 strikers who can put the ball in the net (albeit still not enough) that all you Fryatt lovers have piped down a bit.

I certainly won't have him back. Ive said for over a season now he was fat, slow lazy and shit yet everyone on here said he was amazing and if he scored 1 goal, he would 'start banging them in'.

But as usual i was right.

Last season after the Cov away game i said sell him, get him out of the team now, and ive maintained that view ever since.

You all laughed at me then but im laughing now

[Tommy G]

I certainly won't have him back. Ive said for over a season now he was fat, slow lazy and shit yet everyone on here said he was amazing and if he scored 1 goal, he would 'start banging them in'.

But as usual i was right.

Last season after the Cov away game i said sell him, get him out of the team now, and ive maintained that view ever since.

You all laughed at me then but im laughing now

Haha!

Don't kid yourself.

[Manwell Pablo]

I think he's still young, quite talented and has a future somewhere. He is still just about managing to keep his place in the sixteen and hopefully when his chance comes he will take it.

However since buying Howard and Hayles he's rightfully been benched and theres not really a starting case to be made for him.

[breadandcheese]

I think he's still young, quite talented and has a future somewhere. He is still just about managing to keep his place in the sixteen and hopefully when his chance comes he will take it.

However since buying Howard and Hayles he's rightfully been benched and theres not really a starting case to be made for him.

I agree. I've seen enough of him to see that he has the best ball control out of our strikers, but sadly, his application does seem to have been lacking compared to the likes of Hume, Hayles, etc. I still stick by he has till the end of the season to convince the manager that he has a future at the club.

If in the summer it hasn't worked out and it's in the best interests of both parties to sell him, then so be it.

[Webbo]

I still think that Fryatt is a better player than Hume. He doesn't work as hard as Hume but a lot of what Hume does is pointless, wasted effort.

Fryatt will eventually become a top striker in this division, whether with us or somebody else.

[Flynny]

I would have brought him on against Palace. It was scrappy with no space, putting on someone with a good touch and dribbling skills like his would have changed the game.

Instead we crossed our fingers and Baz saved the day. Good old Baz.

[lildave3]

I would have brought him on against Palace. It was scrappy with no space, putting on someone with a good touch and dribbling skills like his would have changed the game.

Instead we crossed our fingers and Baz saved the day. Good old Baz.

We brought on DJ though...

[The Reverend]

I would have brought him on against Palace. It was scrappy with no space, putting on someone with a good touch and dribbling skills like his would have changed the game.

Instead we crossed our fingers and Baz saved the day. Good old Baz.

Fryatt cant do anything when he's got space. Talk about when he hasnt.

I think that is a bit of a contradiction, though i suppose you could look at it in 2 ways.