Charlton Post Match Thread

[Bryn]

I don't know who's managing the team but if Ollie was responsible for our change of tactics once we'd scored he wants shooting.

Doesn't sound like it, on RL he was going on about how disappointed he was that we stopped attacking once we'd scored.

[Tevez]

Robbed. It's all i can say.

[Leicester Lass]

Robbed. It's all i can say.

How were we robbed?

Threw it away as far as I could see.

[Koke]

First half was a shocking game of football. Both teams cancelled each other out. Chris Iwelumo should've had an early shower with that elbow but he got away with it. Madjid Bougherra cleared from the goal line, and that was the only decent chance I can remember in the first half.

Second half were were marginally better and we took the game to them. Once we scored we start ****ing about with the corners and time wasting and shit. And it backfired on us badly, and the one person who we didn't want to score eventually scored, Patrick friggin McCarthy. Initially I blamed Fulop because it looked like he came out to claim it but didn't even get a proper touch on it, then a lot of messy clumsy stuff goes on in our box and McCarthy puts it in the back of the net.

A point was probably a fair result, but I'm utter disappointed that we didn't win after have taken the lead in the 78th minute.

[WetFlannel]

I don't think we can keep drawing games as it isnt getting us anywhere, we cant go to any team in this division now and say 'a draw is good enough' until weve at least picked up a few more points.

[Tevez]

WTF was Fulop doing for their goal?

[DB11]

They may have equalised in the last minute, but they didn't deserve to lose

[Webbo]

I think you're all being wise after the event. If we had tried to attack from that corner and Charlton had broken away and scored you would have all said we should have kept it in the corner. As I've said earlier it was a shocking decision (by the linesman) to give a foul for simply shielding the ball.

[WetFlannel]

WTF was Fulop doing for their goal?

I would've thought at least one player would recover onto the goal line

[davieG]

WTF was Fulop doing for their goal?

Perhaps he was looking for kenton's bollocks

[dandannieldanok]

WTF was Fulop doing for their goal?

Exactly what I said when they scored, when he flaps it seems like he intends to just pat the ball down, rather than attempting to catch or punch which for me is more worrying.

Perhaps he was looking for kenton's bollocks

[Raj]

We done well today!

Ollie IS defo making a decent impact.

BUT we should not have fcuked around with 5 mins left.

Charlton have scored ALOT of goals in the last few mins so it was inevitable they would score!!!

McCarthy is a cvnt!

BUT Well done to City...its getting better......but alot of work STILL to do!!!

[Thracian]

I think you're all being wise after the event. If we had tried to attack from that corner and Charlton had broken away and scored you would have all said we should have kept it in the corner. As I've said earlier it was a shocking decision (by the linesman) to give a foul for simply shielding the ball.

Some might but it is not a policy I have ever advocated. I said how disgusted I was when the academy lads did it in the FA Youth Cup against Blackburn and it would NEVER have happened in any team of mine.

My attitude after scoring a goal is and was always the same. Refocus, contest the ball as early as possible and score again.

[Koke]

There positives we can take from the games we played in the Christmas period.

1- Despite having several players playing out of position, we still managed to compete with Charlton, Wolves and we even beat Ipswich.

2- Ollie has put belief and confidence into the players. He also told them a few home truth and apparently they have reacted to it.

3- Clemence is getting back to his usual self after a few weeks of poor football on his part.

4- Stearman looks a changed man but I'll wait to make a judgement on him until he has proven that he can maintain that level and even do better.

5- Ollie is certainly the right man for the job.

[Daggers]

Considering that I'd have accepted a point pre-match and that the pub was open today so I got my cheese cob I'm dead happy.

Crap squad, spirited performance...optimism for the January transfer window.

I'm starting to warm to this Holloway chap.

[Koke]

Considering that I'd have accepted a point pre-match and that the pub was open today so I got my cheese cob I'm dead happy.

Crap squad, spirited performance...optimism for the January transfer window.

I'm starting to warm to this Holloway chap.

That was my mindset when leaving the ground.

Awful squad but Holloway is getting the most out of them.

[WetFlannel]

That was my mindset when leaving the ground.

Awful squad but Holloway is getting the most out of them.

Is our squad really that awful compared to alot of the teams in this division... I think awful is a strong word when its only really the midfield that needs improving

[Koke]

Is our squad really that awful compared to alot of the teams in this division... I think awful is a strong word when its only really the midfield that needs improving

Midfield needs improving big time. And I'm not too convinced with the lads up front either. And we need at least one left back. Our defence is more or less sorted.

[Thracian]

Is our squad really that awful compared to alot of the teams in this division... I think awful is a strong word when its only really the midfield that needs improving

Not at all. We just seem to insist on scoring own goals and making life more difficult than it needs to be. I often think it's the leadership at Leicester rather than the players that's the problem.

And considering some of the players we're supposed to be targetting I'm not expecting any notable improvement.

People suggest Holloway got the most out of his team today.

Yet we had next to no forward momentum first half - and very little imagination.

Second half those same players (with two subs) were better until we scored. Then, for no reason whatsoever, our tactics changed and we went into panic-plus-stupidity mode - a 100% bad reaction. Seems to me Holloway got about 50 passable minutes out of the side today.

And when they really needed guidance, when they really needed managing, he blew it.

[Webbo]

Second half those same players (with two subs) were better until we scored. Then, for no reason whatsoever, our tactics changed and we went into panic-plus-stupidity mode - a 100% bad reaction. Seems to me Holloway got about 50 passable minutes out of the side today.

But the 2 subs were on before half way through the first half.

I don't think that time wasting with 2 minutes to go is panicking either, just protecting a lead. When other teams do it it's called professionalism.

[Jonezy]

Another late equaliser from the opposition...... Christ will we ever get a break??? Annoying as f**k!! BUT we battled with a newly relegated Prem side with a very unbalanced team, and they only got a point because Paddy Mac got shit lucky in the last minute.

Heads up! And I cant wait till the luck changes and we get gifted a 95 minute dubious penalty to win against Crystal Palace and have Warnock moaning for a week.... (And keep that thought instead of that late Charlton equaliser....)

[Thracian]

But the 2 subs were on before half way through the first half.

I don't think that time wasting with 2 minutes to go is panicking either, just protecting a lead. When other teams do it it's called professionalism.

Yes I know the subs were on earlier.

And we didn't protect our lead, did we?

You might call it professionalism. I'd call it tactical suicide.

[Ultra]

For all the improved performances this week, we're still only TWO points from the drop zone.

It could and should have been four. We should have been professional enough to close the game out for the last 10 minutes, even allowing for the appalling match officials.

Unfortunately we lacked leadership just when we needed it most, first in conceding then in failing to clear the free-kick from which McCarthy equalised.

And credit to him for not celebrating - after all he never really wanted to leave in the first place. He also kept Fryatt pretty quiet today, apart from one half-chance which Weaver did well to save.

The game was typical of so many this year - a few glimpses of potential which were never realised.

2008 has to be a LOT better than this..

[reynard]

I don't know who's managing the team but if Ollie was responsible for our change of tactics once we'd scored he wants shooting.

Talking about wilfully shooting ourselves in the foot.

If my neighbour in the stands had accepted my £10 to a five bet I could at least have made some moeny from it cos that's what I offered as a bet that Charlton would score the moment I saw us pissing about with that corner two minutes from time.

Instead of just simply flighting the ball into the box and giving ourselves the chance of a second goal we idiotically and unsuccessfully tried to waste time as if we haven't come unstuck time and time again with such negativity.

It was only against Wolves that I said how naive we were to stop defending from the front, stop maintaining our tempo and stop putting pressure on their defenders by continuing to push up.

The reason we got ahead against Charlton was because we stopped them getting forward and into our box. As soon as we took the lead we went 4-5-1, conceded ground, crowded the defensive area and started making the stupid and totally unnecessary mistakes that allowed them back into the game.

City's penalty box was suddenly crowded like a party on New Year's Eve.

Whennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn will the message EVER get through. It is not obligatory that we concede tactical own goals and those two points we donated to Charlton today could well get us relegated in time. Totally unforgiveable.

Completely and utterly agree. As soon as we scored we almost seemed to stop playing and decided to defend from the edge of our own penalty box and made no attempt to get a second. We invited them onto us and the foul by Clemence was merely the culmination of this. Listening to Holloway after the match he seemed to indicate this was not a plan but merely the players mind set!

[reynard]

Not at all. We just seem to insist on scoring own goals and making life more difficult than it needs to be. I often think it's the leadership at Leicester rather than the players that's the problem.

And considering some of the players we're supposed to be targetting I'm not expecting any notable improvement.

People suggest Holloway got the most out of his team today.

Yet we had next to no forward momentum first half - and very little imagination.

Second half those same players (with two subs) were better until we scored. Then, for no reason whatsoever, our tactics changed and we went into panic-plus-stupidity mode - a 100% bad reaction. Seems to me Holloway got about 50 passable minutes out of the side today.

And when they really needed guidance, when they really needed managing, he blew it.

It is easy to blame him and you might be right but where was the leadership on the pitch. Why were the so called senior pros allowing us to defend too deep?

The sooneer we sign some born leaders the better.

Fifty passable minutes is more then any other manager has managed to get out of this shower in the last 2 seasons. Imagine what might be possible with a balanced team of better quality players.