Fryatt

[Flynny]

What do we do with him, especially if Hayles and Howard turn up?

I know he's not rated a lot by some, but I'd loath to rid the team of his touch, opening up of play and drive from deep. But having said that, despite some of his best performances for a while he's not really looked like scoring, which is what it's all about.

I guess my question is: is he worth playing as a front-lying midfield playmaker type? I could see it happening. We don't look like we're going to sign a creative midfield type of player unless Kavanagh suddenly does things he's not before, so maybe playing Fryatt behind two out and out strikers is the way forward?

To me this lineup looks about as attacking as I can see us getting.

Fulop

Stearman - McAuley - Kisnorbo - Sheehan

Clemence

Hume---------------------------Hayes

Fryatt

Deej - Howard

Thoughts? About Fryatt, not lineups. We could play that game for years.

[Sparky]

not a fan , sell him

[Webbo]

Personally I think he's the best footballer at the club, certainly the most skilful. Having said that Thracian also has a point about his lack of pace.

It's certainly worth sticking with him in midfield for a bit and seeing how it works out.

[Sparky]

we need to sign midfielders and play them in midfield , granted Fryatt has had shocking service since he has been here but i dont see many great attributes from him , maybe i am being a tad harsh and should see how he gets on alongside howard but i aint convinced

[Simi]

Please do not play Fryatt in that role behind the strikers. He's played there a bit this season and not really achieved anything. If he's going to succeed here he needs to be playing right up the front, he hasn't got the pace or the awareness to really play anywhere else in my opinion.

[stevec]

He is so frustrating, on the one hand one of the finest footballers we have. But on the other - a forward that does not score enough. Players can get away with lack of pace when they have the footballing ability he has - but he also has no power in his shot to trouble the keeper - so becomes a pointless player.

Maybe when we have all the correct players in the correct positions and he receives the ball in the box more he will come up trumps - I hope so.

[Jonbluefox9]

Fryatt does a lot of good work outside the box but seems desperately short of support. He twists and turns defenders inside out but then has very little in terms of options. You can never guarntee that there'll be someone within 30 yards of him when he's upfront with Hume due to the way Hume plays the game and John seems to be reading a different page when Fryatt tries to link up with him.

I think if we get ourselves some proper wingers, Fryatt's close control could enable us to counter opposition teams like we haven't done for a long time. He could buy the wingers time to catch up with play, give the ball to them, make his way into the box himself and, if we sign Howard or someone similar, we'll have a good chance of converting the crosses into goals whether they're in the air or played along the deck because I have no doubt that Fryatt could poach a few that way.

Ollie's come out and praised him on a few occasions so I don't expect him to be leaving us anytime soon.

[Simi]

He is so frustrating, on the one hand one of the finest footballers we have. But on the other - a forward that does not score enough. Players can get away with lack of pace when they have the footballing ability he has - but he also has no power in his shot to trouble the keeper - so becomes a pointless player.

Maybe when we have all the correct players in the correct positions and he receives the ball in the box more he will come up trumps - I hope so.

This is a good point.

People have been raving about Fryatt a lot lately, I can't see why personally. Fryatt is put on that pitch to score goals. Against Charlton and Ipswich he did not have one clear cut chance. I can accept he's doing a good job in other areas of the pitch, but he doesn't need to. I'd rather see Hume dropping deep and Fryatt looking for some space in the box, that's where he's best in my opinion.

[Stuliasz]

The only way Fryatt is going to start to score more goals is to become lazier and cut out the coming deep to pick up the ball part of his game - basically what Collins John does. He's never in the positions to slot it away because of how hard he's working for the team and any chances he gets are generally ones that he makes himself.

The only problem is that previous managers have tried having him as the player who sits on the line of the defence but as we all know, because of his lack of pace he always has to move that bit earlier to get a yard on the defenders and 9 times out of 10 this means he is caught offside.

I like Fryatt as a footballer but it might be time to try something different and I certainly think Howard would bring that.

[Joe.]

Fryatt just isn't consistent enough for me.

He's got talent there's no doubt about that and he's still young, but I don't think he's what we need all the time. The most I could see him being is a bit part player. For Fryatt to play well he needs the players around him to as well, because he thrives on service and needs it as part of his game.

He's not pacy enough for me and far too greedy at times but he does have the positive aspects to his game. He's a good finisher and shows some good skills at times, but for me he's just not deadly enough. I can't see teams getting worried at the prospect of playing against him.

So overall, squad player for me (assuming we find replacements).

[Bert]

He needs to realise that he cannot shoot from outside the box as well.

[MPH]

i dont think we will sell DJ as he has shown in his brief appearances he can score.. bringing in 2 strikers ( so it seems that leaves DJ,MF and Hume along side Howard and Hayles... He wouldnt of course bring hayles along if he didnt intend to use him at all- its obviously a short term thing so we cant keep all 5 happy.... and i havnt even started talking about Ashley chambers yet!!

To me it seems logical that either Hume or Fryatt will move on as they WILL be asking questions about where they fit in...

Fryatt p/x for Norris, i say..

[Staf]

I think that Fryatt and Howard would be good strike partners and i think Hayles and DJ should be on the bench

[mancunianfox]

I have never been hugely impressed with Fryatt but he is the most skillful player that we have and Holloway seems to have really motivated him. He has really impressed me in the last few weeks and he has earnt a place in the side on merit. He hasn't been scoring goals because he has to do the work that wide players would do if we had some in the side. At the moment I would pick him ahead of Hume up front and I think Fryatt/Howard could work together if we brought in a decent right midfielder as well. He has worked on his lack of pace and with a forward in the side who can head the ball and rough up defenses a bit we could see the best of him. If we lose Fryatt to a championship side it will come back to haunt us.

[Master Fox]

not a fan , sell him

I'm not a fan, i'm a hater!!

Sell him, he's b0llox.

[The Stig]

Inconsistent. Just recently, he's looked our biggest threat. Whether he'll stay in that form is a completly different matter.

[Daggers]

He'd make a lovely New Year's present for some little League 1 or 2 team.

[eaststandtom]

What do we do with him, especially if Hayles and Howard turn up?

I know he's not rated a lot by some, but I'd loath to rid the team of his touch, opening up of play and drive from deep. But having said that, despite some of his best performances for a while he's not really looked like scoring, which is what it's all about.

I guess my question is: is he worth playing as a front-lying midfield playmaker type? I could see it happening. We don't look like we're going to sign a creative midfield type of player unless Kavanagh suddenly does things he's not before, so maybe playing Fryatt behind two out and out strikers is the way forward?

To me this lineup looks about as attacking as I can see us getting.

Fulop

Stearman - McAuley - Kisnorbo - Sheehan

Clemence

Hume---------------------------Hayes

Fryatt

Deej - Howard

Thoughts? About Fryatt, not lineups. We could play that game for years.

fryatt and howard up front. hayles on the bench. its up to hume to take fryatts place as the 'small man'.

fryatt uses the ball much better than hume so one of them has to give way to allow the big man howard to come in. as fryatt uses the ball hume should

[Foxhateram]

fryatt and howard up front. hayles on the bench. its up to hume to take fryatts place as the 'small man'.

fryatt uses the ball much better than hume so one of them has to give way to allow the big man howard to come in. as fryatt uses the ball hume should

I beleive that this is IH plan, to play little and large upfront but i think Hume will be the little man as he is scoring goals atm where fryatt isnt. i think Hayles will be playing on the wing tbh. We havent seen little and alrge pairing upfront since Heskey was here, itl be interesting to see if it works.

[Darkzzz_]

Give matty fryatt the ball on the deck and he is great... he is probably the most skillfull at the club. I really do think he is a gifted player, his pace is a problem... but i would certainly be gutted if we lost him because i think he has a lot to offer...

Just needs a ollie special, arm around shoulder treatment!!

[danny.]

he needs to play up front, as in

Fulop

Stearman - McAuley - Kisnorbo - Sheehan

Clemence

C. Ronaldo---------------------------Hayes

Hume

Fryatt - Howard

[mancunianfox]

Give matty fryatt the ball on the deck and he is great... he is probably the most skillfull at the club. I really do think he is a gifted player, his pace is a problem... but i would certainly be gutted if we lost him because i think he has a lot to offer...

Just needs a ollie special, arm around shoulder treatment!!

I think he has been working on his pace over the last few months. Your right about him being an arm around the shoulder type. I think he's doing well at the moment especially after he was humiliated in the summer by Martin Allen.

[Corky]

Like someone said earlier, I think Fryatt is too clever for this team. He has excellent close-control, which allows us to break away, and can turn sharply, but on occasions, he sees things ahead of the other players, and is too quick. Part of the problem is he has no real support, on Saturday he got himself into a perfect position to cross a ball, but there was no-one in the box.

I understand his scoring record isn't great, but you have to remember he has to play well away from the goal due to the lack of midfield at times, so clear-cut chances are few-and-far between. If we had Muzzy Izzet and Neil Lennon in the midfield then Fryatt would get so many more chances, and probably score plenty of goals.

Want to keep him, because he does try hard and is skilful, but needs proper support as well. Hopefully Howard and Hayles can provide that.

[Thracian]

Like someone said earlier, I think Fryatt is too clever for this team. He has excellent close-control, which allows us to break away, and can turn sharply, but on occasions, he sees things ahead of the other players, and is too quick. Part of the problem is he has no real support, on Saturday he got himself into a perfect position to cross a ball, but there was no-one in the box.

I understand his scoring record isn't great, but you have to remember he has to play well away from the goal due to the lack of midfield at times, so clear-cut chances are few-and-far between. If we had Muzzy Izzet and Neil Lennon in the midfield then Fryatt would get so many more chances, and probably score plenty of goals.

Want to keep him, because he does try hard and is skilful, but needs proper support as well. Hopefully Howard and Hayles can provide that.

Hume has scored reasonably consistently with the same supply.

In some ways one of Fryatt's problems has been not seeing things, a problem that's reflected in his lack of assists. Times a colleague makes a run and Fryatt doesn't deliver the pass but goes it alone.

To be fair that aspect seems to have improved lately and he has looked sharper but there have still been times where it's a wonder his team-mates bothered making the runs at all.

His problem now is that he's operating outside the box rather than inside and I think that's a backward step goals wise. Few agreed but passes - from open play and set pieces - were flashed across the box against Charlton but neither Fryatt nor anyone else was there operating as a goalpoacher.

Someone mentioned that DJ was our poacher but it's no use taking that attitude. Campbell, like Porter, is out for a while and we need someone else to take that responsibility. Preferably more than one.

[Corky]

Hume has scored reasonably consistently with the same supply.

In some ways one of Fryatt's problems has been not seeing things, a problem that's reflected in his lack of assists. Times a colleague makes a run and Fryatt doesn't deliver the pass but goes it alone.

To be fair that aspect seems to have improved lately and he has looked sharper but there have still been times where it's a wonder his team-mates bothered making the runs at all.

His problem now is that he's operating outside the box rather than inside and I think that's a backward step goals wise. few agreed but passes - from open play and set pieces - were flased across the box against Charlton but neither Fryatt nor anyone else was there operating as a goalpoacher.

Someone mentioned that DJ was our poacher but it's no use taking that attitude. Campbell, like Porter, is out for a while and we need someone else to take that responsibility. Preferably more than one.

Difference between Hume and Fryatt is that Hume scores most outside of the box, while Fryatt is more your 18-yard box finisher. Hume tends to create his own chances, whereas Fryatt needs good service to score. Fryatt should score more goals, and I Believe that Kavanagh can provide that service if we get him.