Tommy G Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 . Dealing with kids under 10, not hard? Your off your rocker kid. Well im not a parent so I wouldnt know - It's not exactly academically challenging taching kids the 3 times tables? It's more challenging in terms of how patient and how well you explain things. In terms of comparing it to secondary education, your less likely to get a smack from one of the kids or verbal abuse - if you work at a primary school.
Alexikokopops Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Most new teachers I know are incredibly irritating, always banging on about their work. I... do not... care... My friend's a new teacher and a 13 year old kid threatened to shoot her with a gun while the rest of her class were calling him a dickhead for pulling the gun out. Ah, the fun of inner city Leeds. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: pipe down.Im training to become an accountant, only 19 you see. I just can't see Primary School teaching as a tricky job? it's just my opinion. And for the record I didnt say anyone elses car was shit - I said I wasn't a fan of the MR2, nothing personal honest You seem to be forgetting the importance of Primary school. It provides a basis for the next 5-10 years of education, and beyond. Without the kind of things kids learn at primary school (like, I dunno, READING AND WRITING) we'd be in quite the pickle.
The People's Hero Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Well im not a parent so I wouldnt know - It's not exactly academically challenging taching kids the 3 times tables?It's more challenging in terms of how patient and how well you explain things. In terms of comparing it to secondary education, your less likely to get a smack from one of the kids or verbal abuse - if you work at a primary school. No - the subject matter obviously isn't different from the teacher... but then it becomes more a case of 1) people learn in different ways - how best to make sure every member of the class has an understanding of what is going on? How to explain it on their level. 2) An amount of nurturing is involved, you can be as much parent as teacher in role when you are dealing with youngsters. 3) If it's a new concept, it likely is quite challenging to at least some of the kids, however easy we might find it now (or indeed did then). 4) I certainly wouldn't want to do it and therefore have a bit of respect for them. That respect is wiped out when they think all I want to know about is their sodding job and how good they are at it and how they are a martyr to the cause and to helping other peoples' kids and how the pay isn't good enough and how the holidays are 'really more of a hindrance' etc. I once went for a drink with some teachers, it wasn't intentional, they are all old friends of mine who wanted to catch up, but they were all sodding teachers. All night we spoke about teaching. Then, one of them asked me what I do, I told them and got about 20 seconds in to explaining it when I was cut down and told it was boring to listen to, must be very boring for me to do and wouldn't I like to do a 'proper' job where I could actually help some people? I left soon after, but not before being asked incessantly why one of their motor claims had not been settled yet after they had refused three reasonable offers (write off of car) and 'could I have a look in to it?' She still occasionally texts me about it now and a) this was months ago b) I don't deal with the company concerned c) I told her the situation and d) I don't even fu cking deal with motor or indeed with claims. I'm a fu cking underwriter. An UNDERWRITER.. not a CLAIMS HANDLER or something of that ilk. 'Same thing' she says. From now on teachers/childminders/babysitters/tutors/academics/researchers are one and the same, ok?
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Well im not a parent so I wouldnt know - It's not exactly academically challenging taching kids the 3 times tables?It's more challenging in terms of how patient and how well you explain things. In terms of comparing it to secondary education, your less likely to get a smack from one of the kids or verbal abuse - if you work at a primary school. Quite. But then at secondery school you aren't dealing with 30 odd 6 year olds, some of who still wet/shit their pants on a regular basis. Scream and cry all the time, mess the place up, haven't nessacerily learnt wright from wrong, haven't got a clue how to read or write, and scrap with each other over who gets to play with action man. I don't think I'd find teaching anything up to GCSE academically challenging tbh with you but I'd certainly find a class full of kids very stressfull.
Tommy G Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Quite.But then at secondery school you aren't dealing with 30 odd 6 year olds, some of who still wet/shit their pants on a regular basis. Scream and cry all the time, mess the place up, haven't nessacerily learnt wright from wrong, haven't got a clue how to read or write, and scrap with each other over who gets to play with action man. I don't think I'd find teaching anything up to GCSE academically challenging tbh with you but I'd certainly find a class full of kids very stressfull. On the defensive there, are you a teacher by any chance then?
James. Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 On the defensive there, are you a teacher by any chance then? Do you accept that teaching at primary school IS a difficult job yet?
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 On the defensive there, are you a teacher by any chance then? , Yeah I teach kids how to spell.
MikeyT Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 My dad is a teacher and he works his ass off. He's out here at 7:30 everyday and sometimes doesnt get home till nearly 8:00 at night. So its good to see them getting a pay increase.
BigGibbo Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 On the defensive there, are you a teacher by any chance then? "Those who can't do teach"
Alexikokopops Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 On the defensive there, are you a teacher by any chance then? Just out of curiosity have you ever done a job which involves supervising under 12s? After 4 years of lifeguarding I can assure you that it's not easy. Oh, and Mablo isn't a teacher. Far from it in fact. He just actually realises that it's not just about teaching a kid the 3 times table.
Head Honcho Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 My dad is a teacher and he works his ass off. He's out here at 7:30 everyday and sometimes doesnt get home till nearly 8:00 at night.So its good to see them getting a pay increase. 8.00pm! My local is open till gone 1am
Dr The Singh Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Just out of curiosity have you ever done a job which involves supervising under 12s?After 4 years of lifeguarding I can assure you that it's not easy. Oh, and Mablo isn't a teacher. Far from it in fact. He just actually realises that it's not just about teaching a kid the 3 times table. I have 2 infants, aged 4 and 5 respectively, and l dread looking after them, let alone teaching them!! To have a class of 30 of them in a controlled environment would be difficult, and I respect those that do the job well!!! There was once a time where teachers were known as guru's, one with knowledge, whi were treated with the highest respect for passing that knowledge on!!
Zingari Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 My dad is a teacher and he works his ass off. He's out here at 7:30 everyday and sometimes doesnt get home till nearly 8:00 at night.So its good to see them getting a pay increase. are you sure he isn't doing some "extra curricular" activities
Tommy G Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Just out of curiosity have you ever done a job which involves supervising under 12s?After 4 years of lifeguarding I can assure you that it's not easy.Oh, and Mablo isn't a teacher. Far from it in fact. He just actually realises that it's not just about teaching a kid the 3 times table. Yep, I used to help coach my brothers footier team when he was younger. They didnt have much concentration unless you shouted. My point being is that teaching is hard, but primary school is the least out the lot IN MY OPINION. thats what forums are about eh?
James. Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 He just actually realises that it's not just about teaching a kid the 3 times table. As would (and should) anyone that actually spent a few moments to consider the job before posting nonsense generalisations.
Thracian Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Teachers have a tough job to do, as have nurses.However, I can think of a few teachers that don't deserve any pay rises.... And even more politicians I'd imagine. What is it they're voting for themselves?
Tommy G Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 As would (and should) anyone that actually spent a few moments to consider the job before posting nonsense generalisations. standard dig at me there from James...
James. Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 standard dig at me there from James... Wahey! Well at least you have backtracked from your earlier statement.
Tommy G Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Wahey! Well at least you have backtracked from your earlier statement. Wahey! Not really no...
MikeyT Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 are you sure he isn't doing some "extra curricular" activities I'm positive ...he does home tuition as well and not that kind of home tuition though you filthy minded pleb! ;p
Master Fox Posted 15 January 2008 Author Posted 15 January 2008 I see Tommy G is staying true to form in this thread.
Manwell Pablo Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Yep, I used to help coach my brothers footier team when he was younger. They didnt have much concentration unless you shouted.My point being is that teaching is hard, but primary school is the least out the lot IN MY OPINION. thats what forums are about eh? I just don't see how you can think that teaching say year 7 is harder then teaching reception.
Bert Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Yep, I used to help coach my brothers footier team when he was younger. They didnt have much concentration unless you shouted.My point being is that teaching is hard, but primary school is the least out the lot IN MY OPINION. thats what forums are about eh? The thing with a football team is, the majority of kids want to be there, whereas like school the majority wouldn't and i doubt it'd be every day. It also depends on whether the children have special needs, or what not. There's a case for both types (primary/secondary) but i think we can come up with, teaching on the whole isn't easy, regardless of what age the children are.
Tommy G Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 I just don't see how you can think that teaching say year 7 is harder then teaching reception. Because year 7's can be right urchins. I would say the ill dicipline factor outweighs the not so academic teaching for me. If I had the choice out the two I would be Primary School teacher...? But before you say it I have had no experience with either so i wouldn't know would I
Fez of Mahrez Posted 15 January 2008 Posted 15 January 2008 Bit like bear baiting, this. Move forward slowly and then jump back giggling when he lashes out, blindfolded.
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