C-man Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 5000 fans away enough. We've gave them our support and they throw it back at us. Time after time. Just because we took 5000 to Coventry doesn't mean we always give our support. I'll most probably be one of around 250/300 at Southampton in a few weeks. This is when the team needs the support most, and with the attitude in the above quote, I'm not sure we'll get it.
WetFlannel Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 Just because we took 5000 to Coventry doesn't mean we always give our support. I'll most probably be one of around 250/300 at Southampton in a few weeks. This is when the team needs the support most, and with the attitude in the above quote, I'm not sure we'll get it. I'm just saying, they constantly state how 'they need us' when its all down to us needing them. I attend more games than not and Coventry was the first match I just gave up. Enough was enough. I give my support and it obviously isn't enough, so why should I keep wasting my money? I really need this money right now, and I'm really sorry to say I can't keep wasting it. Too much disappointment this season has lead me to reconsider my position on this.
Maybes Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 I'm just saying, they constantly state how 'they need us' when its all down to us needing them. I attend more games than not and Coventry was the first match I just gave up. Enough was enough. I give my support and it obviously isn't enough, so why should I keep wasting my money? I really need this money right now, and I'm really sorry to say I can't keep wasting it. Too much disappointment this season has lead me to reconsider my position on this. Thats pretty much how I feel. Im sure I will find some money somewhere though
Raj Posted 25 February 2008 Posted 25 February 2008 I hate it when someone comes out and says"we need 6 wins". What if the others below us win all 6-7 games. Then we need more dont we? Just an observation.
Tomassi Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 If I thought that they were the ones turning up week in week out I wouldn't have an issue with it but I'm not convinced that the vast majority of them were. Fez, i go every week as you know, and ive been going to quite a few away games this season. i left with 10 mins to go saturday. ive not done this since bolton beat us 5-0 at home thats how dissapointted i was im still a loyal supporter
FilboFox Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 6 wins... EASY! Taggs and Ollie will sort it out... just you wait and see!
StroudFox Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 You don't need a certain amount of points to guarantee safety, it's what happens week-by-week. I worry that if we fall into the bottom three for a couple of weeks, that'll be it with this squad. There's no self-belief or fight in it at all. As soon as they concede a goal, it's game over. And Holloway isn't helping by blaming officials for decisions when we should be giving it everything to win for the whole ninety minutes.On current evidence, the only thing that will bail us out will be Colchester, S****horpe and probably Southampton being even worse than us. But just because Colchester and S****horpe are small clubs with small grounds and low wage budgets, that doesn't mean they will definitely go down. They are not many points adrift as we have seen in recent years. Either of them could feasibly put a decent run on the board and it wouldn't take many wins to move out of trouble. What worries me most is this mentality that we can't win away from home. I can understand it, don't get me wrong, but it will relegate us if the players keep thinking like that. We need to try and be positive and hope that it somehow rubs off on the players. Hopefully all you people who came along to the Coventry game for a day out and left after 78 minutes as soon as the second goal went in will still have a Championship team to "support" next season. I might have my facts wrong here, so please don't shoot me down if I have! But before Holloway came, and Megson, Taggart etc were in control, weren't we getting better results away from home compared to our home form? Am I wrong or was it just our home form was so dismal and the away form looked better? If I am right, How can we suddenly have lost the confidence to play away? Would that be to do with Holloway? I am not a Holloway hater! But I just don't get it!!!
filbertway Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 I might have my facts wrong here, so please don't shoot me down if I have!But before Holloway came, and Megson, Taggart etc were in control, weren't we getting better results away from home compared to our home form? Am I wrong or was it just our home form was so dismal and the away form looked better? If I am right, How can we suddenly have lost the confidence to play away? Would that be to do with Holloway? I am not a Holloway hater! But I just don't get it!!! Home forms better though. And probably because we don't just play 8 men in defence?
Manwell Pablo Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 You don't need a certain amount of points to guarantee safety, it's what happens week-by-week. I worry that if we fall into the bottom three for a couple of weeks, that'll be it with this squad. There's no self-belief or fight in it at all. As soon as they concede a goal, it's game over. And Holloway isn't helping by blaming officials for decisions when we should be giving it everything to win for the whole ninety minutes.On current evidence, the only thing that will bail us out will be Colchester, S****horpe and probably Southampton being even worse than us. But just because Colchester and S****horpe are small clubs with small grounds and low wage budgets, that doesn't mean they will definitely go down. They are not many points adrift as we have seen in recent years. Either of them could feasibly put a decent run on the board and it wouldn't take many wins to move out of trouble. What worries me most is this mentality that we can't win away from home. I can understand it, don't get me wrong, but it will relegate us if the players keep thinking like that. We need to try and be positive and hope that it somehow rubs off on the players. Hopefully all you people who came along to the Coventry game for a day out and left after 78 minutes as soon as the second goal went in will still have a Championship team to "support" next season. I'd argue that. 52 points would get most teams to safety.
Ric Flair Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 It's simple, we'll have to win at least one away game during the remainder of this season or get back to back wins to stay up. If we don't do either or both at a minimum, then we deserve to go down. With some of the players at our disposal, it's embarrassing just how bad we are for the majority of the matches. Holloway has been here 3 months now, I expect him to be making progress and we're not.
teblin Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 Thing that worries me is that the 2 home games we have won recently have been against a norwich side who just looked like they couldn't be bothered a Cov side that has all of their midfield missing. Its the home form we have to hope pulls us through.
Trav Le Bleu Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 Much as I respect Taggs, his statement is utter tosh! We don't need to win half our games (though it would be nice if we could) to avoid relegation. Why? Well that scenario (that it would be a bare minimum required) would mean that at least 2 of the teams below win 7 of their last 12 games, which is as unlikely as City doing the same. Statements like Taggert's just create bad feeling amongst the supporters when the team doesn't win at least every other week. As I have said for the past couple of months, after all that's happened this season, 21st will suit me fine thanks
davieG Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 I might have my facts wrong here, so please don't shoot me down if I have!But before Holloway came, and Megson, Taggart etc were in control, weren't we getting better results away from home compared to our home form? Am I wrong or was it just our home form was so dismal and the away form looked better? If I am right, How can we suddenly have lost the confidence to play away? Would that be to do with Holloway? I am not a Holloway hater! But I just don't get it!!! I think our home form being so dismal is the answer, we've only won 2 games away all season 1 under Megson and Ollie's first, weve drawn 8, 3 of those under Ollie. so we managed a few more draws before Ollie. In the away table we're 19th and the home one we're 15th. So relative to each other they are normal, the problem is, over the season we're fundamentally crap home and away
davieG Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 Much as I respect Taggs, his statement is utter tosh!We don't need to win half our games (though it would be nice if we could) to avoid relegation. Why? Well that scenario (that it would be a bare minimum required) would mean that at least 2 of the teams below win 7 of their last 12 games, which is as unlikely as City doing the same. Statements like Taggert's just create bad feeling amongst the supporters when the team doesn't win at least every other week. As I have said for the past couple of months, after all that's happened this season, 21st will suit me fine thanks I think he's trying to create a mindset in the players that is above the minimum so as to counter any complacency unfortunately it's probably too late because our 4 year lack of belief grows stronger by the week.
Zingari Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 I think our home form being so dismal is the answer, we've only won 2 games away all season 1 under Megson and Ollie's first, weve drawn 8, 3 of those under Ollie. so we managed a few more draws before Ollie. In the away table we're 19th and the home one we're 15th. So relative to each other they are normal, the problem is, over the season we're fundamentally crap home and away take out the fun and i'd agree
MC Prussian Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 Much as I respect Taggs, his statement is utter tosh!We don't need to win half our games (though it would be nice if we could) to avoid relegation. Why? Well that scenario (that it would be a bare minimum required) would mean that at least 2 of the teams below win 7 of their last 12 games, which is as unlikely as City doing the same. Statements like Taggert's just create bad feeling amongst the supporters when the team doesn't win at least every other week. As I have said for the past couple of months, after all that's happened this season, 21st will suit me fine thanks And then the same all over again next season? No, thanks. I either demand an improvement towards the end of this season (meaning a good mid-table position), or we'll better be off in League One. Harsh words, but I only mean good for the club.
davieG Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 take out the fun and i'd agree Go the whole hog and take out da fun (davieG @ Feb 26 2008, 11:12 AM) I think our home form being so dismal is the answer, we've only won 2 games away all season 1 under Megson and Ollie's first, weve drawn 8, 3 of those under Ollie. so we managed a few more draws before Ollie. In the away table we're 19th and the home one we're 15th. So relative to each other they are normal, the problem is, over the season we're fundamentally crap home and away
Zingari Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 Go the whole hog and take out da fun yes thats it ; we're mentally crap
Fatbloke Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 In recent weeks he has been done for pace continually by such League One non-entitities as Jermaine Easter and Leon Best and given the ball away under no pressure on numerous occasions.And everyone else being poor is not really an excuse. I'd be glad of a suspension for Clemence on recent form too. Don`t know where you`ve been during our games or if you have an eyesight problem, either way your talking rubbish !
Legend_in_blue Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 Don`t know where you`ve been during our games or if you have an eyesight problem, either way your talking rubbish ! Why is he? I agree with him. Our centre-backs are over-rated and can't pass more than 2 yards. Head it in the air, fine, play it in the air, fine, to a Leicester player? No chance. More chance of me eating my dinner on the moon. As for Clemence, he needs to get himself sorted out and start to look interested in every game, not just 1 in 5. Such inconsistency in the workplace would warrant some sort of warning, so why not keep him out? We're too soft. Allen wasn't. Cat amongst the pigeons anyone?
StroudFox Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 I think our home form being so dismal is the answer, we've only won 2 games away all season 1 under Megson and Ollie's first, weve drawn 8, 3 of those under Ollie. so we managed a few more draws before Ollie. In the away table we're 19th and the home one we're 15th. So relative to each other they are normal, the problem is, over the season we're fundamentally crap home and away Thankyou. I did wonder. I didn't do my research properly I know. I was just doing it from memory!!!
Raj Posted 26 February 2008 Posted 26 February 2008 Don`t know where you`ve been during our games or if you have an eyesight problem, either way your talking rubbish ! McCauley was having a mare against Norwich until we scored. We are hardly a fcuking brick wall at the back at the moment are we???
The People's Hero Posted 27 February 2008 Posted 27 February 2008 I'm glad McAuley is suspended. He's been playing like a carthorse lately. He is a carthorse. We appear to be playing a bit of a higher line (this is from watching the highlights) and McAuley takes about 10 seconds to turn and chase back. He's a liability in my eyes.
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