Running and stuff

[FoxesAreBlue]

I'm getting the tch and want to enter another Marathon, a "proper" one where you can't be spurred on by huge crowds and water stations every 5 mins like in London. Don't get me wrong, London was incredible and I have entered the ballot for next year. I just want to push myself to do a real race and not just a giant fun run.

One of m life goals is to compete all 5 Marathon Majors (London, Berlin, New York, Chicago and the Holy Grail. Boston). To qualify for Boston you have to run sub-3h5min from next year so I have a LOT of time to lose! Problem is working 15hrs a day during the week and 10hrs a day at weekends at the minute doesn't leave me a great deal of time for training.

I need to work out a strict plan!

[Raj]

Been getting pain at the bottom of the soul.

Last year had achiles trouble but this is below that area.

Been icing it and heating it and stretching,just when i think it gets better and i go for a run it hurst again!

Any ideas anyone before i see the Physio???

[Uncle Phil]

Been getting pain at the bottom of the soul.

Last year had achiles trouble but this is below that area.

Been icing it and heating it and stretching,just when i think it gets better and i go for a run it hurst again!

Any ideas anyone before i see the Physio???

Are your shoes knackered?

[Bellend Sebastian]

Been getting pain at the bottom of the soul.

Last year had achiles trouble but this is below that area.

Been icing it and heating it and stretching,just when i think it gets better and i go for a run it hurst again!

Any ideas anyone before i see the Physio???

You could try some orthotic insole type thingys. You can get them in Boots, they're £20-25 ish. A cheaper alternative to having them custom made - mine were £300, and that hurt more than the actual pain in my feet

[SystonFox]

6 miles monday 6 miles wednesday

want to go further but get bored of the same old scenery. any tips?

[danny.]

Been getting pain at the bottom of the soul.

Last year had achiles trouble but this is below that area.

Been icing it and heating it and stretching,just when i think it gets better and i go for a run it hurst again!

Any ideas anyone before i see the Physio???

sounds like plantar fasciitis

[Uncle Phil]

6 miles monday 6 miles wednesday

want to go further but get bored of the same old scenery. any tips?

If you run a kind of circuit you could try running the opposite way around it or, stating the obvious a little, plan a new route. Nothing like getting bored of the scenery to kill the enthusiasm.

[reynard]

I'm getting the tch and want to enter another Marathon, a "proper" one where you can't be spurred on by huge crowds and water stations every 5 mins like in London. Don't get me wrong, London was incredible and I have entered the ballot for next year. I just want to push myself to do a real race and not just a giant fun run.

One of m life goals is to compete all 5 Marathon Majors (London, Berlin, New York, Chicago and the Holy Grail. Boston). To qualify for Boston you have to run sub-3h5min from next year so I have a LOT of time to lose! Problem is working 15hrs a day during the week and 10hrs a day at weekends at the minute doesn't leave me a great deal of time for training.

I need to work out a strict plan!

You could do Leicester.

There won't be much crowd support if any and water stations are approx every 3 miles from what I remember. It is a bit tougher than London as the last mile is uphill.

The cost is pretty low though which is good but there's no atmosphere not that you're worried about that. Once you are clear of the start you can get a good pace going as there will be about 2000 in the half and 500/700 in the full.

I understand Chester is a good one but costs about £40 to enter.

Both are early October so you would only have to maintain your fitness for now and step up in the last 10 weeks

Your recent 10km time is great but suggests a 3.21 marathon

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/index.php/site/calculator

There are rumours that Boston and New York may toughen up their good for age times by the way.

[Steven]

If you run a kind of circuit you could try running the opposite way around it or, stating the obvious a little, plan a new route. Nothing like getting bored of the scenery to kill the enthusiasm.

Can you not find something on here?

http://www.mapmyrun.com/routes/search/run/united-kingdom/leicester?

[Ozwin]

Is it normal to ache like buggery the day after a run? I don't ache as much after football, weird.

Also, I've done about 3 runs and I always make it about a mile before having to take a breather, any advice? I'm finding it difficult to run slowly if that makes sense.

[FoxesAreBlue]

You could do Leicester.

There won't be much crowd support if any and water stations are approx every 3 miles from what I remember. It is a bit tougher than London as the last mile is uphill.

The cost is pretty low though which is good but there's no atmosphere not that you're worried about that. Once you are clear of the start you can get a good pace going as there will be about 2000 in the half and 500/700 in the full.

I understand Chester is a good one but costs about £40 to enter.

Both are early October so you would only have to maintain your fitness for now and step up in the last 10 weeks

Your recent 10km time is great but suggests a 3.21 marathon

http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/index.php/site/calculator

There are rumours that Boston and New York may toughen up their good for age times by the way.

Yeah I think I'll do Leicester. It is on home turf after all! I didn't know you had to qualify for New York too. I have a guaranteed spot in this years Great North too so that can serve as good preparation, just had an email about Edghill 1/2 Marathon in July (£15) which looks tempting.

This year Boston is sub3h10 but is going to be lowered to 3h5. Certainly not expecting to achieve that time this year or next but hopefully I'll gradually get a bit faster and attempt to qualif at either Berlin or Edinburgh, both of which are believed to be fast courses, luckily for me I have friends I both cities I can stay with!

[Raj]

Are your shoes knackered?

You could try some orthotic insole type thingys. You can get them in Boots, they're £20-25 ish. A cheaper alternative to having them custom made - mine were £300, and that hurt more than the actual pain in my feet

sounds like plantar fasciitis

Cheers lads.

A amte of mine had plantar fasciitis

Said it was a nightmare getting it diagnosed and numerous trips to physio.

Ive been using a rolling pin to roll my instep on it when i can(saw it on tinternet)

Its helped abit but me thinks it may be worth a £30 visit to the physio just in case(Mick Yeoman ex LCFC!!!!)

[The Blur]

Bit late this,

Completed my first 10km last Sunday in one hour and one minutes, I was bit gutted at the first but the start was very crowded and I had to walk/jog almost for first five minutes then I could not run at my natural speed for a while due to the frequent overtaking and bobbing along in the crowd so the time is not bad for a first timer.

It was very hot as well and I was wearing a blue morphsuit luckily my sweat created an insulation and cooled me down. The medal was worth it especially around 8km when I got very tired and saw people collapsing and stopping.

On the other hand, I wonder what happened if people fail to meet their fundraising target after the race?

[SystonFox]

If you run a kind of circuit you could try running the opposite way around it or, stating the obvious a little, plan a new route. Nothing like getting bored of the scenery to kill the enthusiasm.

Yeah I have been doing that,I live in Rothley and run between Birstall/thurmaston/Beaumont leys/quorn etc as they are all far enough away to return home having done a decent circuit.also I don't really have time in the week to do any more than 90minutes in a run which for me is 9 miles but by mile 3 I am bored shitless so return home resulting in 6 miles.

[FoxesAreBlue]

Try introducing timed intervals into the run? Ie 5mins to warm up, 5mins at a faster, more uncomfortable pace the 2 mins slower, 5mins faster, 2mins slower etc etc

See how it goes....

[reynard]

Yeah I think I'll do Leicester. It is on home turf after all! I didn't know you had to qualify for New York too. I have a guaranteed spot in this years Great North too so that can serve as good preparation, just had an email about Edghill 1/2 Marathon in July (£15) which looks tempting.

This year Boston is sub3h10 but is going to be lowered to 3h5. Certainly not expecting to achieve that time this year or next but hopefully I'll gradually get a bit faster and attempt to qualif at either Berlin or Edinburgh, both of which are believed to be fast courses, luckily for me I have friends I both cities I can stay with!

Here's a very unglamorous marathon but I think this is used by runners to get the necessary qualifying times.

http://www.mablethorpemarathon.org.uk/full-marathon.html

Guess it is pretty flat and not too many runners.

berlin is supposed to be great and quite fancy a go myself one day. Edinburgh is in fact slightly downhill all the way and quick but the weather can be a bit messy.

[reynard]

Is it normal to ache like buggery the day after a run? I don't ache as much after football, weird.

Also, I've done about 3 runs and I always make it about a mile before having to take a breather, any advice? I'm finding it difficult to run slowly if that makes sense.

What you are experiencing is pretty much what most amateur sports people experience. If you think about football you are not on the move all the time at the same pace. Your muscle usage will be different.

It is hard to advise without knowing your circumstances but I'd guess the following.

If you play football you are probably used to running quite quickly for small lenghts. I'd suggest you are probably going too quickly and though you might be fit you may not be running fit if you see what I mean.

Unless you have a garmin or heart rate moniter you need to go on something called perceived effort. This means assessing how you feel whilst you run. For example a comfortable running pace for any individual should mean that they could carry on a conversation with a fellow runner without feeling out of breath. If you feel you couldn't do this then you need to slow down a bit. Running slowly is a skill on its own. I know this sounds a bit odd but for first timers training for marathons one thing that is hard to convey is that whilst they build up their fitness they actually need to run slower than they think they should especially for long distance training.

You could try building up slowly on your runs by building your warm up into what you do. So let's say walk briskly for 1 minute, jog slowly for 2 minutes and then slowly build to a pace at which you feel comfortable having a conversation and then stick to that pace for a while.

I don't know what you want to achieve but set yourself attainable distances so you can achieve them and then build slowly up. If your looking for distance then aim to add no more than 10% to the longest run you do each week until you get to the distance you want to.

Another alternative woild be to try interval training as this is very good for general fitness levels. Personally I'd get used to running for a couple of months before I did intervals but that is your choice.

As for aches etc. Again hard to advise as it depends where they are. if you are running on roads/pavements then make sure you have the correct shoes or you risk getting ankle/shin and even knee problems. If the issue is abs/quads etc then what stretching do you do?? By the way if you have the choice of roads:pavement if it safe choose road as the impact is alot less than that given by many pavements.

A bit of a long answer but hope it helps.

[FoxesAreBlue]

Thanks reynard, two very good answers there, quite fancy Mablethorpe now! I know Berlin is considered fast but I thought that was because of the pacemakers the use?

That's where the world record was set last Autumn too, I was I'll watching it in bed.... I'm bored, gone Off on a tangent.

[Guest]

Had a skinny girl try and compete in the hotel gym today. Just because you're thin, it doesn't necessarily compute you can run. This girl had no muscle. Yes, I was a stone heavier, probably, but that's muscle, and it's muscle built from running distance. She just made herself look bitter and useless.

The only thing worse is seeing unfit people trying to copy my speeds. It only looks easy because i've been doing it for ages, you fools!

[SystonFox]

finding running a lot easier these past couple of weeks. really starting to enjoy it. managed 8 yesterday, 8 last sunday and 6 tuesday followed by 5 wednesday. need to find time to break 10+ miles on a regular basis.

anyone got any decent running apps for iphone that arent nike+ gps cos it fricking DRAINS iphone battery

[FoxesAreBlue]

finding running a lot easier these past couple of weeks. really starting to enjoy it. managed 8 yesterday, 8 last sunday and 6 tuesday followed by 5 wednesday. need to find time to break 10+ miles on a regular basis.

anyone got any decent running apps for iphone that arent nike+ gps cos it fricking DRAINS iphone battery

It will up your battery usage but Endomondo is an amazing app that I use. I fully barged my phone and had the app on for a 18 miler. Was also listening to music too and it JUST lasted the distance.

[Guest]

Any app that uses the GPS tracker will cane your iPhone battery. If you listen to music too, you're not helping yourself.

I used mine during the London Marathon for the tracker only (no music). It lasted the full 26 miles, which took me over 4 hours. My %age went from 97% to 36%. I had a portable charger in my kit back at the finish line, and a charger cable for the car journey home.

[SystonFox]

Any app that uses the GPS tracker will cane your iPhone battery. If you listen to music too, you're not helping yourself.

I used mine during the London Marathon for the tracker only (no music). It lasted the full 26 miles, which took me over 4 hours. My %age went from 97% to 36%. I had a portable charger in my kit back at the finish line, and a charger cable for the car journey home.

Thanks for the info. Was just wondering if there were any more %age friendly apps but I guess not. Would rather stay using Nike+ tbh as its all my current data on it and I'd like it all in one place neat and tidy haha!

[Guest]

My injury woes.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

Signed up for my first 10km run today as part of the Melbourne Marathon so it finishes at the MCG. Looking forward to it, i should be right but a bit worried as i hate running in public with crowds etc.