Tennis

[Fear Of The Fox]

7 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

The "equal pay" argument is always going to be subjective because the idea of "what" the sportspeople should be remunerated for is likewise subjective. Degree of physical/mental exertion? Amount of revenue brought to the sportspeople? Other factors? A combination thereof? 

 

I certainly wouldn't want to say that just because women play three sets and so apparently (subjectively) put less effort into a contest, that they don't deserve the same pay as the men. 

A lot of factors:

- Psysical effort and strength. 

- TV revenue. 

- Sponsorships. 

-,Popularity. 

- Compared talent and skills. 

I can go on and on. Some people do more in their jobs than their managers and earn half of the salary. If life was fair everyone would be happy, poverty would have been limited and we wouldn't make the same mistakes over and over again re wars. 

[leicsmac]

6 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Djokovic at 38 is unreal. Can see another final with Alcaraz, unless they meet before. 

He's down to play Sinner in the semi final, who I think will have the skill and the patience to break him, but it will take a serious effort to do so with him on this form. 

 

5 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

A lot of factors:

- Psysical effort and strength. 

- TV revenue. 

- Sponsorships. 

-,Popularity. 

- Compared talent and skills. 

I can go on and on. Some people do more in their jobs than their managers and earn half of the salary. If life was fair everyone would be happy, poverty would have been limited and we wouldn't make the same mistakes over and over again re wars. 

Absolutely agreed. Therefore IMO folks shouldn't look to reduce a complex issue to simple soundbites. 

[Fear Of The Fox]

19 minutes ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Djokovic at 38 is unreal. Can see another final with Alcaraz, unless they meet before. 

Kecmanovic is extremely slow for tennis at this level. He's simply unfit. 

[leicsmac]

This Djoko match is like watching that bit of Robocop where Murphy gets his limbs blown off one at a time. Dismemberment. 

[Torquay Gunner]

35 minutes ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Kecmanovic is extremely slow for tennis at this level. He's simply unfit. 

His next opponent de Minaur is the polar opposite, but I would still expect Djokovic to March on. 

[Durnerz]

I went to Wimbledon yesterday and got tickets to Court One after camping out the day before. Great wins for Kartal, Norrie and then Mertens. I also met Anthony Joshua and Eddie Hearn outside which was a nice touch. Roasting hot day though!

[The Bear]

The men's games are seriously tedious, especially in the earlier rounds where you get two big servers up against each other. You know it's going to 5 sets as neither of them can break serve. 

 

I'd definitely support 3 sets until the QFs for the men in all slams. It'd make the earlier rounds quicker as well and they could get more games in per day. It would also throw up a few more upsets in the earlier rounds. 

 

Women can't do 5 sets. It would massively increase injuries, and again, would extend the matches for too long. 

[everton carr]

24 minutes ago, The Bear said:

The men's games are seriously tedious, especially in the earlier rounds where you get two big servers up against each other. You know it's going to 5 sets as neither of them can break serve. 

 

I'd definitely support 3 sets until the QFs for the men in all slams. It'd make the earlier rounds quicker as well and they could get more games in per day. It would also throw up a few more upsets in the earlier rounds. 

 

Women can't do 5 sets. It would massively increase injuries, and again, would extend the matches for too long. 

Disagree grass plays more like clay these days hence why nobody plays serve and volley. The days of winning endless short points with a big serve   like in the days of Wayne Arthur Dick  Norman Rusedski  Goran  etc have long gone

[Torquay Gunner]

1 hour ago, The Bear said:

The men's games are seriously tedious, especially in the earlier rounds where you get two big servers up against each other. You know it's going to 5 sets as neither of them can break serve. 

 

I'd definitely support 3 sets until the QFs for the men in all slams. It'd make the earlier rounds quicker as well and they could get more games in per day. It would also throw up a few more upsets in the earlier rounds. 

 

Women can't do 5 sets. It would massively increase injuries, and again, would extend the matches for too long. 

Someone coming back from two sets down, or two sets to one down is what makes five set play exciting.  For many players it takes a set to just settle down and play their natural game. Three set play, even in the earlier rounds for me wouldn’t do justice to the competition. 

[Jimothy]

That's a shambles from the electronic line call system in the Kartal match.

[Fear Of The Fox]

3 hours ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Someone coming back from two sets down, or two sets to one down is what makes five set play exciting.  For many players it takes a set to just settle down and play their natural game. Three set play, even in the earlier rounds for me wouldn’t do justice to the competition. 

Agree. 5 sets must not change for men. Tactics play a major role in 5 sets. Women can't play 5 sets, it's impossible and unfortunately their games lack any tactics unless the Top 5 in the ranking are involved. Even Sabalenka's tactical play vs Raducanu was awful and she admitted it in an interview. 

[whoareyaaa]

Norrie playing well again, won the first two sets 

Edited 6 July 2025 by whoareyaaa

[Fear Of The Fox]

1gbps fibre here and BBC iPlayer is at least 90secs late or should I say 2mins. They're 20 years behind in streaming services. 

[whoareyaaa]

Good game 2 sets each 

[Super_horns]

2 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

Norrie playing well again, won the first two sets 

2-2 sets all now .

[purpleronnie]

2 hours ago, whoareyaaa said:

Norrie playing well again, won the first two sets 

[leicsmac]

Norrie trying to do the typically Brit-at-Wimbledon thing of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. 

 

How depressing. 

[whoareyaaa]

8 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Norrie trying to do the typically Brit-at-Wimbledon thing of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. 

 

How depressing. 

Jarry givin* him nothing though 

[whoareyaaa]

Finally gets the break through 

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Jarry givin* him nothing though 

It's true. 

 

A better player would find a way in shorter order, though, but then it's been obvious for a while where his ceiling is. 

[Torquay Gunner]

Quality 5 set match. Well done Norrie.

[spacemunky]

Well done Cam!

[whoareyaaa]

Just now, Torquay Gunner said:

Quality 5 set match. Well done Norrie.

Agreed great game 

[Fear Of The Fox]

Disrespectful from Norrie. No need to do these theatrics mocking Jarry for the last point dive. 

[The Bear]

8 hours ago, Torquay Gunner said:

Someone coming back from two sets down, or two sets to one down is what makes five set play exciting.  For many players it takes a set to just settle down and play their natural game. Three set play, even in the earlier rounds for me wouldn’t do justice to the competition. 

 

4 hours ago, Fear Of The Fox said:

Agree. 5 sets must not change for men. Tactics play a major role in 5 sets. Women can't play 5 sets, it's impossible and unfortunately their games lack any tactics unless the Top 5 in the ranking are involved. Even Sabalenka's tactical play vs Raducanu was awful and she admitted it in an interview. 

The men only play 5 sets in the Slams four times per year. They should be well used to playing 3 set matches already.