Daggers Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 Again we did that last friday cant we just go down the pub tomorrow instead? If I'd had internet porn when I was a callow youth no one would have ever seen me.
smokey Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 Won't miss all the hoof balls from him and isn't he from Nuneaton,which from my limited geagraphy lessons at school isn't in Leics? Think you will find he was born in Wolverhampton and raised in Mkt Harborough!!
Houdini Logic Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 Think you will find he was born in Wolverhampton and raised in Mkt Harborough!! I think he means Fryatt
smokey Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 I think Smokey is right. I am right, yes Fryatt was born in nuneaton though if he did mean him.
fox123 Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 To be honest Stears may have just f00ked up his own career, I can remember the last player/manager that has left for wolves and done well!
syston_fox Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 Not sure if it's been mentioned...On his bebo he has said that the manager and chairman made no effort to keep him or to agree a new contract - he had no choice. Well according to his status on myspace, he doesnt have a bebo account
iancognito Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 I don't understand the fuss about Stearman. He was a novice centre-back pushed out to right-back and he was fairly crap at that role with a lack of pace and inability to cross. The 'one trick pony' turns that he did four times a game fooled no-one and getting over a million for him is the best bit of business we'll do this summer (short of getting rid of Maybury and hayles). He was offered a contract earlier this season but his agent said they wouldn't even look at it until City's situation was settled. Maybe for the first time in a few years we'll be able to buy an ACTUAL right back and not a utility man now.
Joe. Posted 26 June 2008 Posted 26 June 2008 Maybe for the first time in a few years we'll be able to buy an ACTUAL right back and not a utility man now. I don't think we actually need to. James Chambers is more than capable.
Nod.E Posted 27 June 2008 Author Posted 27 June 2008 Well according to his status on myspace, he doesnt have a bebo account He recently created one. People slagging him off need to grow up and grow a pair. Granted he's no legend. But he didn't have a choice, that or little choice. Either way he's in a higher league with better pay. I would do exactly the same. Fair play Stearman.
andyh1884 Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 He recently created one.People slagging him off need to grow up and grow a pair. Granted he's no legend. But he didn't have a choice, that or little choice. Either way he's in a higher league with better pay. I would do exactly the same. Fair play Stearman. Didn't have a choice? Why? He still had a year on his contract, he could've stayed, seen if we got promoted & then signed a new deal. He could've rejected the move to Wolves. He didn't do either of those. No-one held a gun to his head & forced him to sign for them, same with Hume going to Barnsley. I think it's a bit stupid of him to come out saying the club made no effort etc. etc., they may not have done but it was his choice and his choice alone to leave the club.
James. Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 Didn't have a choice? Why? He still had a year on his contract, he could've stayed, seen if we got promoted & then signed a new deal. He could've rejected the move to Wolves. He didn't do either of those. No-one held a gun to his head & forced him to sign for them, same with Hume going to Barnsley. I think it's a bit stupid of him to come out saying the club made no effort etc. etc., they may not have done but it was his choice and his choice alone to leave the club. But then how do you know that? How do you know that Wolves/Barnsley didn't just offer a decent fee and the club said yes? Why do you think Stearman and Hume had such control over their future?
Jimmy Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 But then how do you know that? How do you know that Wolves/Barnsley didn't just offer a decent fee and the club said yes? Why do you think Stearman and Hume had such control over their future? because they both had at least 1 year on their contract and the club cannot force them to leave without releasing them outright. stop being such an apologist for them, they jumped ship because we went down, end of story, they don't need to justify themselves and probably shouldn't even try because we will all assume what they are saying is BS anyway
James. Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 because they both had at least 1 year on their contract and the club cannot force them to leave without releasing them outright.stop being such an apologist for them, they jumped ship because we went down, end of story, they don't need to justify themselves and probably shouldn't even try because we will all assume what they are saying is BS anyway Maybe it can't force them but it can encourage them to leave. In any case with a year left better to cash in now then let them go free, right? And since when was I an apologist for them? I'm not asking them to justify anything. If you read my recent posts you'll see that I actually don't think they should have to justify their actions, this club is a mess, I don't blame them for leaving. Good luck to them. They deserve better anyway than a club like this - thanks Mandaric.
andyh1884 Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 But then how do you know that? How do you know that Wolves/Barnsley didn't just offer a decent fee and the club said yes? Why do you think Stearman and Hume had such control over their future? The process of selling a player under contract doesn't just involve the club accepting a bid - the player then has to agree terms. Both of them could've turned round at that point and said no. This isn't some sort of slave trade/human trafficing ring, just because the club's accepted a bid, doesn't mean they have to leave.
blue blood Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 you lot have got too much time on your hands if ur still chatting about an ex player.
James. Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 The process of selling a player under contract doesn't just involve the club accepting a bid - the player then has to agree terms. Both of them could've turned round at that point and said no. This isn't some sort of slave trade/human trafficing ring, just because the club's accepted a bid, doesn't mean they have to leave. I'm just saying you don't know the facts. I don't know the facts. They may have been persuaded to leave because the club wanted cash. Maybe they desperately did want to leave. Good for them. Anyway my point is I'm glad they've gone on to what they consider to be better clubs. We're a f**king mess at the minute. Mandaric has taken us down a very shitty path and it's going to take a long time to sort it out. I hope all the players who this club has f**ked about leave. We don't deserve them. Maybe then we can start to build a team that want to play for the club and try and bring some stability back. And with that will come success.
davieG Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 The process of selling a player under contract doesn't just involve the club accepting a bid - the player then has to agree terms. Both of them could've turned round at that point and said no. This isn't some sort of slave trade/human trafficing ring, just because the club's accepted a bid, doesn't mean they have to leave. Yes but if the club accepts a bid they are as good as saying sling your hook we'd rather have then money than keep you. Hardly encouragement to stay.
andyh1884 Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 Yes but if the club accepts a bid they are as good as saying sling your hook we'd rather have then money than keep you. Hardly encouragement to stay. I would agree, but my initial post was in response to someone saying that Stearman 'had no choice', which is simply not true
davieG Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 I would agree, but my initial post was in response to someone saying that Stearman 'had no choice', which is simply not true Well if the situation I described was relevant to him then I would suggest that, in effect he had no choice.
filbertway Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 People saying they could have stayed another year. If we didn't go up they would go for a lot lower sum than we got for them.
Guest Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 But then how do you know that? How do you know that Wolves/Barnsley didn't just offer a decent fee and the club said yes? Why do you think Stearman and Hume had such control over their future? We've had offers for Maybury, but he has turned down a move elsewhere. I'm sure he's not the only one who was happy to sit out his contract rather than play for his place. I know the circumstances are not exactly the same, but I would guess it all boils down to money. To get rid of Maybury, I would have thought he would have been offered terms that were worse than he was already on. I would guess the players currently leaving aren't just going for the sake of playing Championship football. It's all very mercenary. Yes but if the club accepts a bid they are as good as saying sling your hook we'd rather have then money than keep you. Hardly encouragement to stay. Maybury, again.
Toby or not Toby Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 I don't think we actually need to. James Chambers is more than capable. Felt sorry for him, he never played when Holloway came in Hopefully he will be a regular next year
davieG Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 We've had offers for Maybury, but he has turned down a move elsewhere. I'm sure he's not the only one who was happy to sit out his contract rather than play for his place. I know the circumstances are not exactly the same, but I would guess it all boils down to money. To get rid of Maybury, I would have thought he would have been offered terms that were worse than he was already on. I would guess the players currently leaving aren't just going for the sake of playing Championship football. It's all very mercenary.Maybury, again. I don't see them as being the same as I doubt Maybury was offered a better contract and it's debatebly as to whether the offers were from a higher level and he therefore chose, like Douglas to stick with what he was getting. Assuming I've understood your reason for quoting Maybury.
Guest Posted 27 June 2008 Posted 27 June 2008 I don't see them as being the same as I doubt Maybury was offered a better contract and it's debatebly as to whether the offers were from a higher level and he therefore chose, like Douglas to stick with what he was getting. Assuming I've understood your reason for quoting Maybury. I used Maybury with your quote because of the Sunderland fiasco. That really did seem to demotivate him, because up until that point nobody really had any gripes with him (when played in position...). However after that debacle, he really didn't seem bothered, which is understandable, and yet everyone then jumped on his back for his poor form.
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