davieG Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Tribunal to set the fee. Not sure how this works (remember we had to pay quite a bit for Williams through one from Forrest) Would be pleased with 300 - 500k Football League Regulation 60 determines the compensation fee for players out of contact, i.e. 60.1 In determining the compensation fee under regulation 59.5 The Football League Appeals Committee shall take into account the costs set out in regulations 60.2 and 60.3 and any of the criteria st out in regulation 60.4. 60.2 Any costs incurred by eithr club in operating a Football Academy of Centre of Excellence including (without limitation) the cost of providing for students: 60.2.1 living accommodation 60.2.2 training and playing facilities 60.2.3 scouting, coaching, administrative and other staff 60.2.4 education and welfare requirements 60.2.5 playing and training strip and other clothing 60.2.6 medical and first aid facilities 60.2.7 friendly and competitive matches and overseas tours. 60.3 Any other costs incurred by the transferor club directly attributable to the training and development of players including any compensation fee referred to in regulation 60.4.3. 60.4 The criteria are: 60.4.1 the status of the two clubs involved 60.4.2 the age of the player 60.4.3 the amount of any compensation fee paid by the transferor club upon acquiring the registration of the player 60.4.4 the length of time during which the tranferor club held the registration of the player 60.4.5 the terms of the new contract offered to the player by both clubs 60.4.6 the player's playing record in club and international tem appearances 60.4.7 substantiated interest shown by other clubs in acquiring the services of the player. Some old appeals FOOTBALL LEAGUE APPEALS COMMITTEE DECISIONS SEASON 2002/03 Tyrone Mears Manchester City to Preston North End £50,000 + £25,000 after 10 first team appearances + £25,000 after 20 first team appearances + £25,000 after 30 first team appearances + £25,000 after 40 first team appearances + £25,000 after 50 first team appearances + 20% of any future excess Delroy Facey Huddersfield Town to Bolton Wanderers £100,000 + £50,000 after 5 fist team appearances + £50,000 after 10 first team appearances + £50,000 after 15 first team appearances + £50,000 after 20 first team appearances + £50,000 after 25 first team appearances + 15% of any future excess Sean Thornton Tranmere Rovers to Sunderland £225,000 + £50,000 after first team debut + £75,000 after 10 first team appearances + £75,000 after 20 first team appearances + £75,000 after 30 first team appearances + £75,000 after 40 first team appearances + £50,000 after first full International Cap + 15% of any future excess Sol Davis Swindon Town to Luton Town £60,000 + £15,000 after 20 first team appearances + £15,000 after 40 first team appearances + £15,000 after 60 first team appearances + 15% of any future excess
The People's Hero Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 oh dear.Thracian is writing something. Well, either it is a mammoth post which has taken 18 minutes (and counting), he gave up, or he did post it and it sparked a row and got deleted.
The People's Hero Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 It's our loss and Leeds gain.Mattock is off and currently we have nothing at left-back. I'd have kept him. What's that coming over the hill? Oh sh it. It's Chris Makin. It's Chris Makin. What's that coming over the hill. It's Chris Makiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin.
Ric Flair Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 No great loss. He'd have done a decent job at this level, but he didn't want to stay, so i'm not bothered. There's plenty of left backs as good or better than him about. As we keep thieving players and managers from MKDons, let's go for Lewington from them.
Daggers Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 What's that coming over the hill? Oh sh it. It's Chris Makin. It's Chris Makin. What's that coming over the hill. It's Chris Makiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin. Damn - now you've quoted me I have no chance of adding the errant apostrophe. I feel so cheap and nasty.
Master Fox Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 No great loss. He'd have done a decent job at this level, but he didn't want to stay, so i'm not bothered. There's plenty of left backs as good or better than him about. As we keep thieving players and managers from MKDons, let's go for Lewington from them. He's actually really sh*t, and has ginger hair. We don't like gingers here. That's the rule
The People's Hero Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Ben Thatcher is rumoured to be making a Leicestastic return.
billyfox1 Posted 1 July 2008 Author Posted 1 July 2008 Ben Thatcher is rumoured to be making a Leicestastic return. now he can hit a free kick
Ozwin Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Ben Thatcher is a beast. Get James Scowcrowt back and we're flying!
The People's Hero Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 now he can hit a free kick I bet he could hit a woman too, given room to swing a cat. Allegedly.
Monk Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Well, if he didnt want Leicester as we're led to believe then he can fook off quite frankly. Had potential but also had many weaknesses. Again hopefully we can do better.
Daggers Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Well, if he didnt want Leicester as we're led to believe then he can fook off quite frankly. Had potential but also had many weaknesses. Again hopefully we can do better. I'm pretty confident that the contract offer was the bare minimum to ensure he wouldn't say yes but guarantee a pay-off when he went elsewhere.
Unabomber Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Was expected, i'm sure that Nige will have something lined up.
Thracian Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 I'm not surprised this has happened. My personal belief in Sheehan as a far better and more productive alternative to an ageing ball-giver like Clapham was clearly justified by our subsequent loss of Sheehan-inspired goals and our final humiliating relegation due in great part to a lack of those goals. But none of that disguises the fact that Sheehan had become unhappy at Leicester and was always heading for Leeds if the offer came, especially an offer as good as a three-year contract. So what might have been no longer matters. It also means, with two young full-backs already gone, that the theoretical idea of building a passing team around our best ex-Academy players has virtually disappeared though that's not to say we can't be fast and direct with other players. I'm more interested now in what Pearson actually does than whoever else goes out of the door and activity today sounds promising. There is more than one route to any destination but if Pearson ignores fast/direct and instead goes the laboured and so far flawed "tourist route" of rustic old pro's and supplementary loanees (which thankfully seems less likely now judging by today's signings) then he'll need the magic touch of Harry Redknapp and good luck to him in that respect cos he'll need it. But you never know and I do wish him the best. I doubt there was anything he could do about the departures of Sheehan/Stearman/McAuley and Chairman Mandaric won't be complaining. With a bit more coming from Sheehan and Mattock/Campbell expected to leave at anytime how much will our commercially astute chairman have brought in now compared to the likely final cost of his buying the club - the real cost not the Blanderson headline? I doubt the figures would be far apart and if so, Mandaric must be feeling like he's been asked to sell the last nuggets of someone else's gold mine and to do as he chooses with the money. I just hope that when our young assets have gone Pearson has replaced them and we're not just left with debts if and when new owner Mandaric finally sells out. But that's another issue. As for Sheehan individually, he's obviously impressed Leeds and will now have the opportunity to show whether he was wasted by Leicester or not. I thought his last reserve game showed the full range of his abilities - just like Mattock in the FA Youth Cup against Palace - and if he ever reproduces that form consistently at first team level we have lost a gem. Sadly I believe what McAllister said in that we never really kept him fit enough, sharp enough or motivated enough at Leicester towards the end of his time here. At first team level he tended to be a fall guy just like Mattock and King and, with Sheehan, it didn't go down well. Time will tell but if he shows the right application and gets the right support, I'm quite sure Sheehan has the ability to become a full international.
Daggers Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 :locked: Woohoo! It took longer than my first child to be delivered - but it's finally here!
Daggers Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 I just hope that when our young assets have gone Pearson has replaced them and we're not just left with debts if and when new owner Mandaric finally sells out. But that's another issue.
The People's Hero Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 I'm not surprised this has happened.My personal belief in Sheehan as a far better and more productive alternative to an ageing ball-giver like Clapham was clearly justified by our subsequent loss of Sheehan-inspired goals and our final humiliating relegation due in great part to a lack of those goals. But none of that disguises the fact that Sheehan had become unhappy at Leicester and was always heading for Leeds if the offer came, especially an offer as good as a three-year contract. So what might have been no longer matters. It also means, with two young full-backs already gone, that the theoretical idea of building a passing team around our best ex-Academy players has virtually disappeared. I'm more interested now in what Pearson actually does than whoever else goes out of the door. There is more than one route to any destination but if, as I suspect, Pearson ignores fast/direct and instead goes the laboured and so far flawed "tourist route" of rustic old pro's and supplementary loanees then he'll need the magic touch of Harry Redknapp and good luck to him in that respect cos he'll need it. But you never know and I do wish him the best. I doubt there was anything he could do about the departures of Sheehan/Stearman/McAuley and Chairman Mandaric won't be complaining. With a bit more coming from Sheehan and Mattock/Campbell expected to leave at anytime how much will our commercially astute chairman have brought in now compared to the likely final cost of his buying the club - the real cost not the Blanderson headline? I doubt the figures would be far apart and if so, Mandaric must be feeling like he's been asked to sell the last nuggets of someone else's gold mine and to do as he chooses with the money. I just hope that when our young assets have gone Pearson has replaced them and we're not just left with debts if and when new owner Mandaric finally sells out. But that's another issue. Is this what brought you out of your strike? What were you striking about anyway? We all quite enjoyed it. Who's your new favourite then....? (ps remember I've already bagged Lee Cox and Colin Pollin Jorrin Collins Jorrin John.
moseeds Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 We all quite enjoyed it.Who's your new favourite then....? (ps remember I've already bagged Lee Cox and Colin Pollin Jorrin Collins Jorrin John. I've not enjoyed it. Thracian's post kept me interested. I think many other people probably say the same thing.
Jack Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 This is not too bad as long as we get someone in to replace him.
MC Prussian Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 This is not too bad as long as we get someone in to replace him. You Harte it here first.
The People's Hero Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 I've not enjoyed it. Thracian's post kept me interested. I think many other people probably say the same thing. I'm guessing you're not black, old, a traffic warden, a chosen man, a law abiding driver or someone who would claim drink-driving to be wrong then?
Halfsy Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Disappointed to lose Sheehan as he would have been decent at this level and his dead ball delivery is very threatening. If Mattock leaves, this leaves us exposed at left back and i personally wouldn't want Ian Harte as a replacement for two of our youth academy products. This was always going to happen and is a perfect example of how clueless Holloway actually was. He offloaded Sheehan on loan to Leeds United and replaced him with Jamie Clapham, who i think is one of the worst players i've ever seen. Sheehan was recalled only to want to play for Leeds and Clapham was susbequently offloaded. Thanks again Ollie.
Corky Posted 1 July 2008 Posted 1 July 2008 Is a bit of a shame, I was never his greatest fan, but he could do a job, and takes a good set-piece. Hopefully Mattock will stay because we will be short of numbers in the left-back department, unless Nige has got someone lined up. Wish him all the best for the future.
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