Corky Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 No, your optimism isn't misplaced. I feel we will do well, but that won't stop me from expecting the worst before every match. I can't help it. Even if we win five in a row, I still feel we will lose the next match. Maybe it's because if the worst happens, it won't be so hard to take, and when we win, it feels even better. I don't know.
Simi Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 Different in that it is total guess work, ok your feelings might come into it but they wont be able to define a specific position, Top, Bottom or middle might come from your feelings but a specific position within those groups is just plucking a number out of the air.I don't see how you can get fans into a different mindset just because you are, we're all different, that doesn't mean I wont support the team loudly and clearly on match days but I'll need something back in return to maintain it. It'll take more than what's happened since Holloway left to get me feeling optimistic, buying a ST was agonising enough. Having said that I haven't managed to get to any pre-season games, is the a good or a bad thing? Hopefully will get down there on Tuesday. I'm not questioning your support at all. I understand a lot of people still have bad feeling towards the players after last season, so do I. I'd guess it was a good thing for you that you've stayed away, some of the performances haven't been great but there have always been positives to come out of them.
Wycombe Fox Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 i refuse to offer a prediction on this coming season. Good! You have now successfully exorsised your prediction from September last season and I can now change my signature!
davieG Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 I'm not questioning your support at all. I understand a lot of people still have bad feeling towards the players after last season, so do I. I'd guess it was a good thing for you that you've stayed away, some of the performances haven't been great but there have always been positives to come out of them. I never thought you were. I don't even have particularly bad feelings towards players after last season, I just think my pessimism is more ingrained from the years of ineptitude and lacklustre performances and it will take something verging on an LCFc earthquke to restore any feelings of confidence about how we are going to perform and for me it's not just about wins, in fact it's not even about wins it's about attitude.
Simi Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 I predict a riot. I never thought you were. I don't even have particularly bad feelings towards players after last season, I just think my pessimism is more ingrained from the years of ineptitude and lacklustre performances and it will take something verging on an LCFc earthquke to restore any feelings of confidence about how we are going to perform and for me it's not just about wins, in fact it's not even about wins it's about attitude. That's completely fair. Reporting back from what I've seen, I'd say the attitude could still improve. Especially with a couple of players that were here last season, including the "captain" Matt Oakley. I'm sure we will find a lot out about attitude when they have to go to places like Brighton on a Tuesday night.
Thracian Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 Okay I'll table some unreserved optimism. How Mandaric and Hollowords managed to get us relegated with the players we had at the club last seson still remains a mystery to me but sending Gradel off to the seaside in favour of Newton, pushing Sheehan out for Clapham and experimenting with absolute no-hopers didn't help. Yet still we only went down by one point and that because of the tactical ineptitute which typified our season and which had seen us throw away the two points which would have seen us survive by failing to play the game out properly against Charlton. Well, Pearson doesn't seem to have any experimental no-hopers, the team is scoring more goals, we have proper cover in most positions, a smaller squad should mean for better team-spirit especially as Pearson seems the last person to come out with banal and contradictory media claptrap which could hardly have inspired internal harmony. Against all this I see no downsides whatsoever. Pearson seems to be shaping us a normal team and how abnormal is that for Leicester these days? He seems to want to attack, to use individuals in a team framework, to improve his players in the right way, to be working people hard and such players as he has brought in do at least seem to have some specialist expertise and some general idea of what they're trying to do. So bearing in mind we were rarely hammered in the Championship I can only see us doing reasonably well in Division One and, providing we maintain the right attitude and develop some ruthlessness, we might even contest the promotion places. Top six to me is perfectly possible providing we adopt an attitude positive enough to ensure we score the 75 goals that should be our target for getting there. We're not a one-man team so should be able to cope reasonably well with the odd long-term injury and in Gradel, Campbell, Adams, Porter, Dyer and even a hopefully revitalised Fryatt we will probably have more genuine matchwinners than most opponents. I just hope our defence proves resilient enough or that we spend so much time at the other end they never get too seriously tested. And that our midfield is not so negative that it fails to provide the opportunities and back-up for those matchwinners I've mentioned.
Alexikokopops Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 Okay I'll table some unreserved optimism.How Mandaric and Hollowords managed to get us relegated with the players we had at the club last seson still remains a mystery to me but sending Gradel off to the seaside in favour of Newton, pushing Sheehan out for Clapham and experimenting with absolute no-hopers didn't help. Yet still we only went down by one point and that because of the tactical ineptitute which typified our season and which had seen us throw away the two points which would have seen us survive by failing to play the game out properly against Charlton. Well, Pearson doesn't seem to have any experimental no-hopers, the team is scoring more goals, we have proper cover in most positions, a smaller squad should mean for better team-spirit especially as Pearson seems the last person to come out with banal and contradictory media claptrap which could hardly have inspired internal harmony. Against all this I see no downsides whatsoever. Pearson seems to be shaping us a normal team and how abnormal is that for Leicester these days? He seems to want to attack, to use individuals in a team framework, to improve his players in the right way, to be working people hard and such players as he has brought in do at least seem to have some specialist expertise and some general idea of what they're trying to do. So bearing in mind we were rarely hammered in the Championship I can only see us doing reasonably well in Division One and, providing we maintain the right attitude and develop some ruthlessness, we might even contest the promotion places. Top six to me is perfectly possible providing we adopt an attitude positive enough to ensure we score the 75 goals that should be our target for getting there. We're not a one-man team so should be able to cope reasonably well with the odd long-term injury and in Gradel, Campbell, Adams, Porter, Dyer and even a hopefully revitalised Fryatt we will probably have more genuine matchwinners than most opponents. I just hope our defence proves resilient enough or that we spend so much time at the other end they never get too seriously tested. And that our midfield is not so negative that it fails to provide the opportunities and back-up for those matchwinners I've mentioned. I don't think I've ever seen you seem so optimistic Thrac!
Lovejoy Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 It's not the whole get behind the team crap again. Personally I find the whole match-going experience more enjoyable to get behind the team! If you're going to try your hardest NOT to enjoy your Saturday afternoon entertainment, I fail to see the point of coming . Might just be me though .
Daggers Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 Can someone offer send me a Wii if I'm right because I appear to be missing one. Did anyone get their prize?
Guest Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 Okay I'll table some unreserved optimism.How Mandaric and Hollowords managed to get us relegated with the players we had at the club last seson still remains a mystery to me but sending Gradel off to the seaside in favour of Newton, pushing Sheehan out for Clapham and experimenting with absolute no-hopers didn't help. Yet still we only went down by one point and that because of the tactical ineptitute which typified our season and which had seen us throw away the two points which would have seen us survive by failing to play the game out properly against Charlton. Well, Pearson doesn't seem to have any experimental no-hopers, the team is scoring more goals, we have proper cover in most positions, a smaller squad should mean for better team-spirit especially as Pearson seems the last person to come out with banal and contradictory media claptrap which could hardly have inspired internal harmony. Against all this I see no downsides whatsoever. Pearson seems to be shaping us a normal team and how abnormal is that for Leicester these days? He seems to want to attack, to use individuals in a team framework, to improve his players in the right way, to be working people hard and such players as he has brought in do at least seem to have some specialist expertise and some general idea of what they're trying to do. So bearing in mind we were rarely hammered in the Championship I can only see us doing reasonably well in Division One and, providing we maintain the right attitude and develop some ruthlessness, we might even contest the promotion places. Top six to me is perfectly possible providing we adopt an attitude positive enough to ensure we score the 75 goals that should be our target for getting there. We're not a one-man team so should be able to cope reasonably well with the odd long-term injury and in Gradel, Campbell, Adams, Porter, Dyer and even a hopefully revitalised Fryatt we will probably have more genuine matchwinners than most opponents. I just hope our defence proves resilient enough or that we spend so much time at the other end they never get too seriously tested. And that our midfield is not so negative that it fails to provide the opportunities and back-up for those matchwinners I've mentioned. Good post Thrac. I agree with you, attitude and the ability to kill off a game, from my perspective, were two key ingredients that were drastically missing, not just last season, but for a while now. What was especially frustrating last season was watching some of the players body language when we went behind, or attempting something that didn't quite work out. Now I haven't been able to make any pre-season games cos I used all my holiday from work to make the league matches, but from what people have been reporting on here, despite the few problems that are still to be ironed out, there appears to be a better team spirit and attitude and it's making me genuinely look forward to seeing LCFC this season. And how much did Ollie talk about balance in the team whilst continually playing people out of position... doesn't seem like NP will do that unless absolutely forced to
demon_dog Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 TBH at this moment in time, I can't really say one way or the other, as to how we will do this coming season. Having not been to any of the pre season games I cannot really give an informed judgement. All I do know is that for the first time in many years, I cannot seem to get excited about our up coming campaign. Whether this is down to the fact that the last few season's have been complete let downs or because we are in this division, I do not know. The only judgement I can make is from the people on this forum and the local media. I do feel that in NP we have a manager who aims to do well, so far he seems to be doing all the right things in getting players for specific positions, NOT spouting of to the press every 5 mins. and according to reports keeps himself very much at a distance from everyone and just concentrates on the job in hand. This I feel is to his credit. I do not think anyone can judge how the team will fare this season until they have seen 5 or 6 competitive games. Pre season does not mean a great deal, just look at former pre seasons. Lets just hope that for once things work in our favour.
renards Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 Just a quicky whilst Hollowheads name has been mentioned. He's still living (or if moved only just) in a rented house in Nanpanton (1,800 PM) M1 junc 23 A pal of mine drinks in his company in the boozer over from IH's house and said even though he failed, got us relegated and the sack he is so full and up himself its unbelievable ..head as big as a bucket basically. He continingly complains that MM insisted that (as thought) he picked and played certain players. I'm sure IH could feck up without any help. Hope MM keeps his beak out this season
Monk Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 I've gone into far too many seasons being over optimistic. This season, for a change I will side on the cautious. Automatic promotion will be TOUGH to get, and I seriously doubt we will walk our way back to League 1. Defence has me worried, but hopefully with the addition of Tunchev we will be a more formiddable unit. I've not been to any of the friendlies so I can't comment on NP's style or the fitness of the players. We certainly look better organised than we did last season (But then we all thought we were going to walk to the prem this time last year), and we'd probably look more organised than Martin Allen's setup if we had Gazza running the show. So, I'm not benchmarking anything on last season. No expectations, just hope, mr kipling's lemon drizzle slices and many pre match drinks with you lot.
Daggers Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 No, apparently not. Did any money get to Mark? Has anyone heard from Whathisface since? That's seriously naughty.
filbertway Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 My prediction is Tunchev struggles due to the language barrier and our retarded fans won't give him enough time to adjust to the culture and we'll lose a quality CB.
Corky Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 My prediction is Tunchev struggles due to the language barrier and our retarded fans won't give him enough time to adjust to the culture and we'll lose a quality CB. I think most fans understand that he will have problems early on. You will get the idiots who are unrealistic and impatient, but most with their heads screwed on will give him the time to adjust and develop. At least this year we will have a professional set-up, with no media quips and unneccesary exposure.
Guest Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 I am unnervingly optimistic, and with no real basis for it. With the right balance of youth and experience, we should make our stay in Div 3 a short one. But having been increasingly more disappointed with each season in the last few years, I don't want to get carried away, but I am.
davieG Posted 28 July 2008 Posted 28 July 2008 I always felt that should have been Always look on the bright side of death - they weren't exactly going anywhere
ronnup Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 Any optimism will be over after the MKDons game!!! or now if you get your way!!!
Guest Posted 29 July 2008 Posted 29 July 2008 If you find you have accidentally misplaced your optimism, have a look for it on DB's optimistic bus, it's lurking in these parts still I reckon
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