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Absolute *** of our time Pt.MXXVI

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Captain...

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Horrible, I had to do a double take when reading this bit:

 

'I might even take time to go up to where her

ashes have been spread and just have a wee

quiet word with her later on today and just say,

"he’s got a just sentence"'.

 

The second line ended with me thiniking he was going to urinate on his Gran's ashes.

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The God Emperor

The God Emperor

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that guy sounds like a nutter. I did find the photo hilarious though, at least he channels his prejudices in a more creative way than just senseless beatings.

Dont understand why he went to thailand though, Gays=bad Trannies=OK

Guest MattP

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Queer?

 

That was my original thought but surely that's covered in the L and G?

sphericalfox

sphericalfox

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Never had you down as a reader of the LGBTQ news.

 

What does the Q stand for on the end?

 

it was a link that a friend posted on FB. I felt it was appropriate to post in this thread. It's no surprise really that you've focussed on that aspect rather than the story though is it?  :rolleyes:

Guest MattP

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it was a link that a friend posted on FB. I felt it was appropriate to post in this thread. It's no surprise really that you've focussed on that aspect rather than the story though is it?  :rolleyes:

 

It was the first thing that caught my eye.

 

Fair play to you, nice to see you broadening your horizons.

Guest Col city fan

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Being mentally ill doesn't necessarily mean you can't function in society despite being depraved enough to do something like that.

That's not an excuse - it's a fact. What some people call 'evil' is just mental imbalances causing them to not see the world and not see other people in the same way as most of us do.

Lock her up by all means as a cold calculating psychopath/sociopath/whatever the term is for her, but as Finn mentioned the term 'evil' is childish.

If she's a 'psychopath' this is classified as a mental disorder. A psychopathic personality trait is one in which the person literally cannot see ANYONE's point of view except their own. They cannot empathise or show empathy. This is seen as a mental illness and people do get treated for a psychopathic personality disorder. I believe (though I'm not sure) that Beverley Allitt fits into this category.

Finnegan

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If she's a 'psychopath' this is classified as a mental disorder. A psychopathic personality trait is one in which the person literally cannot see ANYONE's point of view except their own. They cannot empathise or show empathy. This is seen as a mental illness and people do get treated for a psychopathic personality disorder. I believe (though I'm not sure) that Beverley Allitt fits into this category.

You cannot cure psychopathy. There have been disastrous attempts but it can't be done. It's not a "mental illness" per se, depending on the expert you read from it's either a state of being or a personality disorder.

It's also a somewhat exaggerated cliche to say psychopaths don't see other people's views and it's flat out wrong to say they can't DISPLAY emotion or sympathy, even if superficially. Psychopaths are often exceptionally charming and highly functioning social characters who know exactly what you want to hear.

I find psychopathy massively interesting but, while I wouldn't claim to be an expert, it is ridiculously misunderstood thanks to film, TV and other fiction.

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leicsmac

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If she's a 'psychopath' this is classified as a mental disorder. A psychopathic personality trait is one in which the person literally cannot see ANYONE's point of view except their own. They cannot empathise or show empathy. This is seen as a mental illness and people do get treated for a psychopathic personality disorder. I believe (though I'm not sure) that Beverley Allitt fits into this category.

Pretty much what Finn said above.

Guest Col city fan

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You cannot cure psychopathy. There have been disastrous attempts but it can't be done. It's not a "mental illness" per se, depending on the expert you read from it's either a state of being or a personality disorder.

It's also a somewhat exaggerated cliche to say psychopaths don't see other people's views and it's flat out wrong to say they can't DISPLAY emotion or sympathy, even if superficially. Psychopaths are often exceptionally charming and highly functioning social characters who know exactly what you want to hear.

I find psychopathy massively interesting but, while I wouldn't claim to be an expert, it is ridiculously misunderstood thanks to film, TV and other fiction.

No it's not flat out wrong. I didn't make myself clear.

What is being 'displayed' is an act, fiction if you like. It's not empathy ie it's not genuine. It's a selfish means to an end.

And 'Personality Disorder', in its various forms is classified as a mental illness. It didn't used to be, now it is.

Whether it can be treated successfully or not is debatable. The point I'm making is that, following diagnosis it can be subjected to therapy. At Rampton, for example.

Finnegan

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There's a big difference between showing (imitating) something and feeling it. I'm not trying to be deliberately pedantic but you did seem to completely disregard that in your first post.

And you can "subject" anyone to therapy but you're not going to "fix" a psychopath.

Guest Col city fan

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There's a big difference between showing (imitating) something and feeling it. I'm not trying to be deliberately pedantic but you did seem to completely disregard that in your first post.

And you can "subject" anyone to therapy but you're not going to "fix" a psychopath.

That's fair enough.

But 'Personality disorder' is classified as a mental disorder (2007 MHA Amendments). Of course, 'fixed' is a subjective term. You're assertion therefore is too broad. If psychothapy can be controlled in some way, and seen as a set of symptoms, each of which can demonstrate some improval, then therapy might be considered 'successful', but merely by degrees.

What's 'fixed' really? Most people who have suffered alcohol related problems, but stopped drinking, don't then consider themselves 'fixed'. The need to drink usually remains, psychologically, but they have learnt to control it.

Guest Col city fan

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Uhm, bit of a world of difference between being a psychopath and an alcoholic.

I thought that would be your reply..

:whistle:

Guest MattP

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Psychopaths have actually been known to seek out treatment from therapists to hone their conman skills according to recent studies.

 

Copyright The Sopranos.

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