Where do you want LCFC to be?

[Corky]

Home games are not what I'm referring to pal.

Away games in the Prem bring an entirely different type of supporter.

The face painter, the happy clapper, the day tripper and the guy that's there to see Ronaldo. We already have plenty of them, see Chelsea attendance.

I'm sure that would apply to our home matches as well mate.

Let's get to the Premiership before deciding it's all doom-and-gloom

[Flynny]

A slightly changed Premiership in 6 years time with a salary cap and clubs that have to sustain themselves. A 42,000 seater stadium with the extension catering to the more upmarket fan, with cheap seats in the family end and the kop. Us challenging for a european spot with a settled squad of local boys and experienced internationals.

The bubble really really does have to burst some time.

[CKB]

If you don't aim for the top then what's the point? so that's my answer i want us to be back in the Premier and hope oneday we get back there!

[Simi]

Fulham, Boro, Pompey, Man City, Sunderland (debatable) and Bolton.

These have all held there own and 4 of them have managed to get into Europe and win trophies, not everyone is doomed mate.

Fulham and Sunderland will cripple in time and if they don't come straight back they will be the new Leeds, it's not just about being in the Prem, it's maintaining the status and what goes with it.

We went into Admin after dropping out of it, we nearly crippled as a club. If we went up, spent big and fook all happened, we'd be right down that road again. All avenues in the Prem are crooked.

You could of chosen a worse game mate than Chelsea. I loved that game. I can see what you are trying to dig at though.

Just trying to make a point about the average fan that'd turn up in the Prem. JCL heaven.

[Kilworthfox]

Fulham and Sunderland will cripple in time and if they don't come straight back they will be the new Leeds, it's not just about being in the Prem, it's maintaining the status and what goes with it.

We went into Admin after dropping out of it, we nearly crippled as a club. If we went up, spent big and fook all happened, we'd be right down that road again. All avenues in the Prem are crooked.

Just trying to make a point about the average fan that'd turn up in the Prem. JCL heaven.

I am not too sure if people are misunderstanding me here! My point is I like football a certain way and the premiership does not appeal to me as a fan in it's current state! I went on to say they I would love it if we became the best in the business, and yes the fans make it special for me!

[Fosse Boy]

A slightly changed Premiership in 6 years time with a salary cap and clubs that have to sustain themselves. A 42,000 seater stadium with the extension catering to the more upmarket fan, with cheap seats in the family end and the kop. Us challenging for a european spot with a settled squad of local boys and experienced internationals.

The bubble really really does have to burst some time.

That sounds like bliss compared to this over-hyped Sky Sports circus top four cartel trash that we nowadays call the Premier League. I guess safe standing areas and Saturday 3 o'clock kickoffs for all games would be too much to ask for?

But yeah, top flight football should be the aim of every club in the pyramid system though with the present state of English league football, I think you have to slide further and further down the ladder to feel more and more like a real fan now sadly.

[Salieri]

Personally i cannot wait till we make it back to the Prem. In the heady days of MON it was bloody fantastic! We all knew then we had fook all chance of winning the league or even qualifying for Europe via the league but it didnt take away the joy of succeeding in the face of adversity.

How bloody amazing was it when we got one over the "big clubs"? We had that never say die spirit and whatever the stature of the team, they knew (in most cases!) we would more than give them a game. We may have only finished 8th or 9th, but for me it was like winning the league. The cup success was an added bonus!

We could have that back. The rich have got richer yes, but theres still room for the gritty underdog to spring a few surprises.

As much as i'm enjoying this season, winning games for a change, the lure of the Premiership is still appealing for me if only for us to be a thorn in the side of the so called Premiership elite. It seems a million miles away, and yes i take the point about the risk of it backfiring and the possibility of administration. But for me its about striving to be the best we possibly can, and if that means Premiership mid table then id take that!

[act smiley]

The Premiership is all about greed - I'd be happy with top-end championship and winning the FA Cup, myself.

[Raj]

Interesting thread Kilworth.

IF we are succesful in this League i'd love us to compete in the CChip instead of what we have'achieved' in the last few season there.

However inevitable success and competing in the CChip would inveraibly mean promotion to the Prem,would it not?

Dont get me wrong,i personally couldnt give a fcuk about the Prem(and i probably dont know that much about it!).

Im not much for seeing our team get slaughtered week in week out,just so i can say "ohh...i got to see Man U,chelsea etc"

So?

Erm......Basically i want us in the Prem,challenging for Europe and kicking some Big Boys arses'!!!

[Corky]

What I would really love, one day, is to see Leicester City win the FA Cup

[Daggers]

The bubble really really does have to burst some time.

I remember saying the same thing when the average price of a house was £50,000.

For as long as no one stands up to those interested of robbing our game of every last vestige of soul this bubble will simply grow and grow.

Manchester United? Hang on a minute - no one who supports them lives in Manchester. You what now? The owners want to relocate to a stadium near Heathrow? Sure, why not!

Oh yes.

[samingram_uk]

I didt know where to say this, so i'll stick it in here...

Is it wrong of me to think of us not to win league, but go through the play-offs purely so we can go to wembley....

[Corky]

I didt know where to say this, so i'll stick it in here...

Is it wrong of me to think of us not to win league, but go through the play-offs purely so we can go to wembley....

It's not wrong, it's your opinion, but what if we lose? Get automatic promotion and go to Wembley (possibly) in the JPT.

There, everyone's happy.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

I don't think we'll ever have this problem - a preniual yo-yo club, you know where you are with leicester - a season of highs followed shortly by a season of lows but i wouldn't have it any other way.

I had a similar discusion with a mate of mine discussing whether he'd like a billonair to come into his club (Bristol Rovers) and change everything for the 'better' (new ground, new players etc.) or whether that would in fact take something away for why he loves going every week.

It was one of those things that you couldn't get a definate answer for, but i get the felling if we got a Man City or Chelsea style billonaire that the club wouldn't be the same.

When I began supporting leicester we were the battling underdog punching above it's weight - and i want that again. I want a team to support that when you mention it to someone else they say, "oh, they're a good little side." Premiership Champions - I wouldn't say no to that, but unless i live to 1004 I can't see that happening!

[maddog]

Premiership so we can play the top clubs every week.

Nothing but the premiership, tis a no brainer.

European football, Premiership etc.

If we carry on like we are going, i can see us promoted this season and then promoted to the Prem in 1 or 2 seasons in the Championship, if we can stick with Nige and stability.

[lcfc_jme]

tis a no brainer.

You're right, it is a no brainer. True to the words of the song: "Premiership? You're having a laugh".

For me, the Premiership is not "the promised land". The Premiership is a polluted, toxic concoction of murderous greed, soul-less football clubs and suited airheads on an "I am God, I make the rules" power-trip.

I said this last season, and I'm saying it again now. I would hate for us to get back into the Premiership. Absolutely hate it. The Premiership to me represents everything which is wrong with football these days.

We'd have even more corporate deals and seating. Great way to repay loyal fans, eh? Oh yeah, we'd suddenly find ourselves with shed loads more "fans" as well, wouldn't we. Beautiful. I mean, filling the stadium every week with these placid armchair fans, the type who think anyone standing or swearing is on a par with convicted rapists and murderers. And clearly they wouldn't just be in our ground because it'd be seen to be "cool", and hope to catch a glimpse of the Premier League "stars" they've been cracking one out to for years on Sunday afternoons, would they? Sure-fire way to improve the atmosphere bringing these in, isn't it? Oh what I wouldn't give to see our home support become Middlesborough's, become Wigan's, become Reading's. Hell, we're halfway there already and that's ****ing bad enough. It'd be an absolute joke.

Everything would revolve around Sky TV, like they are the centre of the universe. The people in charge would change the shape of the ****ing ball if Sky told them to. We'd have less games kicking off at the traditional 3PM on a Saturday, as well. Fabulous.

Oh, and to be quite honest, all of you lot thinking "well we're loyal fans, the club love us and they'd definitely want us to stay" (even you lot in L1) - get real. They'd price you out in a flash as they sold out to the money-monster that is Sky, that is the Premiership. They wouldn't give two shits about you. Any of you. Do you think they'd miss any of you if they were in the Premiership with the increased TV revenue, the increased sponsorship money? They'd get more families coming for days out, and they'd easily be able to replace you with a new breed of fan which we would all of a sudden acquire.

Football is killing itself. The Premiership can **** off. It's an evil disease and if it were to be completely wiped off the map, I certainly wouldn't miss it. Not in the slightest.

[Uncle Albert]

You're right, it is a no brainer. True to the words of the song: "Premiership? You're having a laugh".

For me, the Premiership is not "the promised land". The Premiership is a polluted, toxic concoction of murderous greed, soul-less football clubs and suited airheads on an "I am God, I make the rules" power-trip.

I said this last season, and I'm saying it again now. I would hate for us to get back into the Premiership. Absolutely hate it. The Premiership to me represents everything which is wrong with football these days.

We'd have even more corporate deals and seating. Great way to repay loyal fans, eh? Oh yeah, we'd suddenly find ourselves with shed loads more "fans" as well, wouldn't we. Beautiful. I mean, filling the stadium every week with these placid armchair fans, the type who think anyone standing or swearing is on a par with convicted rapists and murderers. And clearly they wouldn't just be in our ground because it'd be seen to be "cool", and hope to catch a glimpse of the Premier League "stars" they've been cracking one out to for years on Sunday afternoons, would they? Sure-fire way to improve the atmosphere bringing these in, isn't it? Oh what I wouldn't give to see our home support become Middlesborough's, become Wigan's, become Reading's. Hell, we're halfway there already and that's ****ing bad enough. It'd be an absolute joke.

Everything would revolve around Sky TV, like they are the centre of the universe. The people in charge would change the shape of the ****ing ball if Sky told them to. We'd have less games kicking off at the traditional 3PM on a Saturday, as well. Fabulous.

Oh, and to be quite honest, all of you lot thinking "well we're loyal fans, the club love us and they'd definitely want us to stay" (even you lot in L1) - get real. They'd price you out in a flash as they sold out to the money-monster that is Sky, that is the Premiership. They wouldn't give two shits about you. Any of you. Do you think they'd miss any of you if they were in the Premiership with the increased TV revenue, the increased sponsorship money? They'd get more families coming for days out, and they'd easily be able to replace you with a new breed of fan which we would all of a sudden acquire.

Football is killing itself. The Premiership can **** off. It's an evil disease and if it were to be completely wiped off the map, I certainly wouldn't miss it. Not in the slightest.

So if Leicester do return to the Premier League you are going to stand by this? And you will still think the 'The Premiership can **** off'? Load of shit.

[lcfc_jme]

So if Leicester do return to the Premier League you are going to stand by this?

I can assure you I'll stand by everything I've written, because the Premiership holds no appeal to me whatsoever. I despise what the Premiership stands for. What it has done to football.

The novelty of playing big teams in the cup? Away days at shit grounds? Won't be there, will it?

We won't be an established Premiership team any time soon anyway so I don't think there's anything to worry about, but I also wouldn't really care much for spending £100+ on an away day to a London side, to Libpool, to Yanited, just to watch us get dicked on. Ridiculous.

[Uncle Albert]

I can assure you I'll stand by everything I've written, because the Premiership holds no appeal to me whatsoever. I despise what the Premiership stands for. What it has done to football.

The novelty of playing big teams in the cup? Away days at shit grounds? Won't be there, will it?

We won't be an established Premiership team any time soon anyway so I don't think there's anything to worry about, but I also wouldn't really care much for spending £100+ on an away day to a London side, to Libpool, to Yanited, just to watch us get dicked on. Ridiculous.

Rightio, we will see.

[Tommeh]

All I know is that a supporter who spends £650 on a season ticket and over £100 every away game is not the type of supporter responsible for the amazing recent away atmsopheres and experiences at Barnsley, Fulham, Sheff utd and preston, Barnsley and forest from further a field.

I could never spend that on football not a the moment and lets fact it the only people who can will sit in silence in leather chairs and have meals before and after every match. In short a corporate ****.

Where we are / championship does me just fine.

[lcfc_jme]

Rightio, we will see.

Encapsulate it in your sig. Print screen it and put it on posters, I really don't care. The Premiership is ridiculous. I'd still be a Leicester fan if we got there because that's not something you choose, but my match going attendance (as far as the league was concerned) would be non-existent. The whole Americanised feel, the hanging on every word of Sky, the manipulated kickoff times on many occasions, the amount of JCLs. I fail to see how anyone can be excited by it.

Fair enough, if you're fooled by the £ signs and the bright-lights just like at the fair, then that's up to you. Personally, I can't wait until the Premier League implodes or ****s off to Asia to tap into its new cash-cow fanbase. The sooner the better. Maybe then football can be reclaimed by the fans.

[Uncle Albert]

All I know is that a supporter who spends £650 on a season ticket and over £100 every away game is not the type of supporter responsible for the amazing recent away atmsopheres and experiences at Barnsley, Fulham, Sheff utd and preston, Barnsley and forest from further a field.

I could never spend that on football not a the moment and lets fact it the only people who can will sit in silence in leather chairs and have meals before and after every match. In short a corporate ****.

Where we are / championship does me just fine.

You cant really say that mate because there may be alot of people supporting Leicester with the capital to go and support Leicester everywhere and spend silly amounts of money on a game. These people may also experience the atmosphere at Sheff Utd.

But its all about personal beliefs and I for one would love to see City back in the Prem and by the looks of it so would alot more City fans.

[Flynny]

I remember saying the same thing when the average price of a house was £50,000.

For as long as no one stands up to those interested of robbing our game of every last vestige of soul this bubble will simply grow and grow.

Manchester United? Hang on a minute - no one who supports them lives in Manchester. You what now? The owners want to relocate to a stadium near Heathrow? Sure, why not!

Oh yes.

House prices are going down in flames as we speak. If Gordon Brown finds a way to prop them back up it'll not be for economically sound reasons, either.

The EPL might always be rich, but I don't think it's always going to be the globally pre-eminent league it is right now, it's not how things work.

There's even one way this could happen explored in this article. Likely? Perhaps not. Possible? Yes.

[Trav Le Bleu]

Why was Europe not an option?

[davieG]

Many of us wouldn't be able to afford Premiership football, I'm not even sure i'd be able to afford Championship football because make no mistake when/if we get promoted prices will increase significantly.

Mandaric couldn't afford to keep Portsmouth in the Premiership they were on their way down until he found a richer owner.

70% of clubs are punching above their weight in the Premiership and it's just a matter of time before they get relegated.

When I first started watching in the 60's there was no way we were punching above our weight.

Even the FA & League Cups are becoming more and more exclusive, the top 4 teams reserves are generally stronger than the majority of other teams in the Premiership and pretty much all of the Championship.

English football is totally devoid of competition at the highest level, in the Premiership the target for most clubs is to avoid relegation - how is that anything to do with competitive football, what is the point for the average fan. The only real interest is for the owners to get in make a fast buck or two before they get relegated again.