Bert Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Millwall has been DEAD since 2001.I don't know what people expected. Endless chaps on a ban, endless boycotts going on. Our average gate is barely above 8k. Last time when we got out of this Division it was close to 12k. A game against Leicester/Leeds would usually fetch 17,000. We can still turn it on like we did against Leeds, but Saturday it was flat which probs wasn't helped by the performance. People expected it to be intimidating inside the ground. I've been more intimidated on a log flume.
AWOL Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 People expected it to be intimidating inside the ground. I've been more intimidated on a log flume. I can imagine. Most teams do expect it to be intimidating. Since the introduction of the walkway the ground is the safest in the country. Had you been forced to walk down Ilderton Road you've have had a different opinion.
Guest Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 People expected it to be intimidating inside the ground. I've been more intimidated on a log flume. Alton Towers can be scary
Bert Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 I can imagine.Most teams do expect it to be intimidating. Since the introduction of the walkway the ground is the safest in the country. Had you been forced to walk down Ilderton Road you've have had a different opinion. Well it's a good job that we'll not have to walk down there, seeing as we won't be playing you again for a long time.
AWOL Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Well it's a good job that we'll not have to walk down there, seeing as we won't be playing you again for a long time. Your lot are more up themselves than Leeds. You shouldn't even be in this Division and you should be embarrassed that you are not gloating like you are. ...and, we may still meet yet.
James. Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 I can imagine.Most teams do expect it to be intimidating. Since the introduction of the walkway the ground is the safest in the country. Had you been forced to walk down Ilderton Road you've have had a different opinion. Do you reckon the club still has a problem with its fans? A lot of people suggest that you should get points docked or have large fines handed out for all these indicents... coin throwing, racism, fights with police/fans, etc etc. You say it's the safest ground but at what cost? As mentioned earlier in the thread the cost of policing on Saturday alone would have been ridiculous. Surely you recognise something needs to be done...
Bert Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Your lot are more up themselves than Leeds.You shouldn't even be in this Division and you should be embarrassed that you are not gloating like you are. ...and, we may still meet yet. So. We've lost 3 games in the league all season, we're top of the league, so we can be up ourselves. Yeah, we could always draw you in the cup, good shout.
leicesterseddon Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 thought i rarely went quiet but there wasn't much in the way of songs from the millwall fans. how they played couldn't have helped. i thought our fans were decent but far from exceptional - bit disappointed really. you can see how the 'millwall experience' is completely different now for away fans. i mean even in our end there were quite a few kids, families etc. which you would not have seen in an away end at the old den. i mean that element of millwall is still there (as we saw), but the away fans are never really in any danger. it's not intimidating at all, but that's only because you know you're going to get held in and escorted through to london bridge with half the met keeping watch. it would be a different story though just walking out together back to the station i'm sure it's sad for peaceful millwall fans because the whole operation must cost a fortune. if they ever did go up they'd have to do that basically every week, leaving nothing for signing players
Shrenchel Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Do you reckon the club still has a problem with its fans?A lot of people suggest that you should get points docked or have large fines handed out for all these indicents... coin throwing, racism, fights with police/fans, etc etc. You say it's the safest ground but at what cost? As mentioned earlier in the thread the cost of policing on Saturday alone would have been ridiculous. Surely you recognise something needs to be done... Its not quite as simple as that though is it. 95% of the policing costs would have been for the operations outside the ground. You could dock millwall 20 points and add the 1000 mouthiest ****ers in the ground on saturday to the long long list of fans banned by the club and you´d still need to the same. Lads on bans and kids from the local estates who just fancy a bit of trouble will still come to Bermondsey on a saturday afternoon to get their jollies by trying to kick off with away fans outside the ground and theres no way you can stop them. People who feel fooked off because theyve been banned by the club, or local pikeys who barely supported them in the first place arent going to give a fook if the club loses points or is fined.
Shrenchel Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 thought i rarely went quiet but there wasn't much in the way of songs from the millwall fans. how they played couldn't have helped. i thought our fans were decent but far from exceptional - bit disappointed really.you can see how the 'millwall experience' is completely different now for away fans. i mean even in our end there were quite a few kids, families etc. which you would not have seen in an away end at the old den. i mean that element of millwall is still there (as we saw), but the away fans are never really in any danger. it's not intimidating at all, but that's only because you know you're going to get held in and escorted through to london bridge with half the met keeping watch. it would be a different story though just walking out together back to the station i'm sure it's sad for peaceful millwall fans because the whole operation must cost a fortune. if they ever did go up they'd have to do that basically every week, leaving nothing for signing players Clubs only pay for policing inside the ground. The met will be footing 90% of the bill.
James. Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Its not quite as simple as that though is it. 95% of the policing costs would have been for the operations outside the ground. You could dock millwall 20 points and add the 1000 mouthiest ****ers in the ground on saturday to the long long list of fans banned by the club and you´d still need to the same. Lads on bans and kids from the local estates who just fancy a bit of trouble will still come to Bermondsey on a saturday afternoon to get their jollies by trying to kick off with away fans outside the ground and theres no way you can stop them. People who feel fooked off because theyve been banned by the club, or local pikeys who barely supported them in the first place arent going to give a fook if the club loses points or is fined. Wasn't saying they were the answers and you're right in that it wouldn't deter the nobs that go there purely for a scrap, am just curious to know what our friend from Millwall thinks should be done or indeed if he thinks there's a problem at all...
Craig Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 At the end when they run from the police Absolute fools.
Shipman Out Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 I can imagine.Most teams do expect it to be intimidating. Since the introduction of the walkway the ground is the safest in the country. Had you been forced to walk down Ilderton Road you've have had a different opinion. Wish i knew about that walkway on the way to the ground, last times i went it wasnt there so we strolled down from Canada water a most intimidating experience as always. Got threats on way down a plenty it was only the consumption of chemicals and alchohol that kept things on an even keel. Its easy to play the big man from the top tier and baby sat by police in and out of ground. Think we got lucky strolling down half cut I had a feeling you lot were wound up after the game, was there much trouble?
Shipman Out Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Ark at you lot.I have read this thread and never laughed so much in all my life. Coming from someone like Yeovil or Cheltenham you could perhaps kinda understand to a degree, but Leicester City? A club that has a long history of violence itself? A team who's firm remain active today? Sorry but I had to comment on it. A couple of coins were thrown, bit muggy yes...but hardly makes someone SCUM. Scum are nonces, extremist muslims...not excitable kids chucking a penny or two. As for the whole "they just stared at us" business...and what? If a few chaps wanna just look, gesture and sing...who cares? Give me grounds like ours where there's a bit of atmosphere and intimidation over bland shit souless arenas like Leicester, Southampton and any of the other new stadiums going up. It's not a patch on the old Den, but we still make it uncomfortable and intimidating. It's what Millwall is and always will be. For the record the atmosphere Saturday was poor from us, we had more in the ground than we did for Leeds but the Leeds game was immense. Saturday the crowd never really got going. You deserved the win and we were lacking ideas. We're not strong enough for promotion yet and have performed beyond our ability this season. Spot on, 100% agree with everything said. Fact is though people who are active dont write on forums like this, most people on here never even went to Filbert Street, imagine that as an away fan.
MC Prussian Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Spot on, 100% agree with everything said. Fact is though people who are active dont write on forums like this, most people on here never even went to Filbert Street, imagine that as an away fan. Right. Just because you had the divine chance to see Leicester at Filbo, doesn't make you a saint. Was it my decision to tear it down? Did I want the Walkers? We're stuck with what we've got and you'll also find that a couple of people on here are relatively young and didn't had the fortune to see Leicester play prior to 2003, myself included. AND... there's so many Filbo people that are on FT, you won't believe it... Does that make me less active?
Shipman Out Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Right.Just because you had the divine chance to see Leicester at Filbo, doesn't make you a saint. Was it my decision to tear it down? Did I want the Walkers? We're stuck with what we've got and you'll also find that a couple of people on here are relatively young and didn't had the fortune to see Leicester play prior to 2003, myself included. AND... there's so many Filbo people that are on FT, you won't believe it... Does that make me less active? No you retard, the point the Millwall fan made was spot on. Leicester arent saints so what a few coins got thrown....if they picked up all the coins chucked at them from Pen 1 they could pay for there own police protection home. He was and is spot on.
Shrenchel Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Right.Just because you had the divine chance to see Leicester at Filbo, doesn't make you a saint. Was it my decision to tear it down? Did I want the Walkers? We're stuck with what we've got and you'll also find that a couple of people on here are relatively young and didn't had the fortune to see Leicester play prior to 2003, myself included. AND... there's so many Filbo people that are on FT, you won't believe it... Does that make me less active? I dont think he was trying to imply that makes you less of a fan mate but I agree that when certain people on here are acting whiter than white about coins being thrown etc, they either never went to Filbo or have a very short memory. Ive never thrown a coin at the football in my life and anyone that does is a fooking disabled but if we were still at Filbo theres a good chance there would still be lads in the kop emptying their pockets on the away fans. So to act like millwall are sub human scum because a small minority of pricks lobbed some shrapnel is a tad hypocritical because Ive never seen the same said on here about filbert street atmosphere. Cant have it both ways. No you retard, the point the Millwall fan made was spot on. Leicester arent saints so what a few coins got thrown....if they picked up all the coins chucked at them from Pen 1 they could pay for there own police protection home. He was and is spot on. Yeah, Got there before me.
Guest Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 I dont think he was trying to imply that makes you less of a fan mate but I agree that when certain people on here are acting whiter than white about coins being thrown etc, they either never went to Filbo or have a very short memory. Ive never thrown a coin at the football in my life and anyone that does is a fooking disabled but if we were still at Filbo theres a good chance there would still be lads in the kop emptying their pockets on the away fans. So to act like millwall are sub human scum because a small minority of pricks lobbed some shrapnel is a tad hypocritical because Ive never seen the same said on here about filbert street atmosphere. Cant have it both ways. Isn't the point that times have changed? They should have cracked down on it long ago but it's certainly shouldn't be tolerated in this day in age
James. Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 If it was just coin throwing then I wouldn't be in this thread right now. But it's not is it.
MC Prussian Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 No you retard, the point the Millwall fan made was spot on. Leicester arent saints so what a few coins got thrown....if they picked up all the coins chucked at them from Pen 1 they could pay for there own police protection home. He was and is spot on. Maybe because there's not that many coin tossers on FT???
Floating Fox Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Not been able to get online since, but that was my favourtie day for a hell of a long time. Being drunk before any of you lot turned up was the best part Other Spoon pub - SUAS was sick outside. He says it wasn't him but it was right in the direction he was last seen travelling so I was NOT sick. I promise! Kept it all inside! Although Bombay Saphire at 11am nearly brought it up! For anyone that stayed in the ground for a bit afterwards, Barry Hayles loved us singing "Team of Barry Hayles" to him as he warmed down. :laugh: "Barry get it out" After match drinks at a Spoons was quality too, and then an epic train journey on the way back. Whole carriage to ourselves, we had a bit of fun. Conga for the champions and numerous other things. Very enjoyable. The BTP will be on a mission to find you. We went mental on that train. Conga'd into first class waking that geezer up too. Rowing down the isles I can't get over how good that train was. You starting German chants in the centre on London Streets was hilarious! :laugh: SUAS's drunk face What a weekend. I feel like SUAS looks after two pints. Completely knackered and ready for bed.Top effort lads and lasses. Whats my drunk face? You kept telling me I was wasted but I didn't even feel that bad! :laugh: 2 Pints :laugh: Spot on, 100% agree with everything said. Fact is though people who are active dont write on forums like this, most people on here never even went to Filbert Street, imagine that as an away fan. Finally someone with a level head. Some people should be embarrsed about their posting in this thread, never realised they were so up their own arses. And also, Fair play to Milwall, best home atmosphere in the league I'd say. Our fans we're pretty good too though.
AWOL Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Thank you, at least someone on here with a bit of sense can see what I'm saying! (Shipman). I think it was James that asked whether I believe we have a "problem". No. Millwall is Millwall. Always has been, always will be. If you had even one scooby you'd know that the boys causing agg after the game were kids/wannabees. Not firm. We are always going to attract that sort. If ANY team wants it (which Leicester supposingly did) then you need to get to Rotherhithe/Bermondsey/Surrey Quays. Millwall was out in force Saturday for you mouthy sods but you never showed, which everyone expected anyway. It's all well and good giving it mouth and shouting "your not scary anymore" from the safety of a walkway and the entire met police force through one of Londons busiest stations. Clueless idiots.
Monk Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Damn it. I seen Monk as well. If this is Monk on daggers photo, which I am guessing it is?Bugger. At least I know for next time. Yeah that's me. Was looking out for you but didn't see you. Next time.
James. Posted 16 March 2009 Posted 16 March 2009 Fair play to Milwall, best home atmosphere in the league I'd say. You really must have been f**ked. And from some of your other comments it sounds like you still are.
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