How racist are you?

[Guest Bilo]

I agree and most people are generally like that. A lot of people, however, claim that everyone is prejudiced to a greater or lesser degree. The real issue is how we let our views of other races affect our judgements and how we treat them. I disagree with that, I don't think everyone is like that. But for arguments sake, would you or anyone else hesitate in the slightest in employing a Nigerian bloke as a chief executive in one your financial institutes? And if so, does that make one slightly racist?

I would hesitate to give a Romanian Count a job in a blood bank. Does that make me racist?

Seriously though, I understand the point of view that suggests some are prejudiced to a degree, even if it is subconscious or non-malicious. I disagree with it the same as you though, as I don't feel any prejudice towards any group. Apart from the chavs.

[DJ Barry Hammond]

People often say we all have racist tendencies in all of us, but whether you're an actual racist all depends on how much it actually effects you when treating other people. It's how you control your innate prejudice that matters. You agree? I refuse to admit that I have subconscious prejudices towards other races (as I've been told everyone has), because I simply do not. That's not me taking the moral high ground though.

Do you have subconscious prejudices towards other races or ethnic groups, despite treating everyone equally?

I enjoy a racist joke every now and then - but thats partly because it's 'un-pc-ness' and partly because jokes tend to take the mick out of a stereotype.

In sports I dislike the French, the Germans, the USA so I suppose thats slightly racist too - but generally, I wouldn't consider myself as racist.

[Daggers]

I'm a big evil racist.

This ZZR overtook me this morning and I bloody well raced him all the way to Lichfield.

[Daggers]

....oh, and I really hate white people.

[lou]

The only person you have to worry about on here is Daggers, and his sexy protest threat.

I'll let you know details of pubbage once I have them

Thanks Lisa!

Ahhhh so thats Daggers, the pony-lover!!!! Thanks for the welcome Daggers nice to be here and nice to meet you the other day! I was well up for sexy protest but seem to have missed the boat on that one - never mind!

Great thread this I thought.. interesting to hear everyones views and some brilliant points.

[maddog]

I would say the only people who are truly racist are the ones who cause physical or mental harm to someone just because of their religion or skin colour, i.e beating up or killing those people.

Most of the other stuff is just friendly banter i think

But when i hear Polish people are getting jobs in Britain, and perfectly qualified British people are missing out on those jobs, i think thats unfair, does that make me racist

[Daggers]

I would say the only people who are truly racist are the ones who cause physical or mental harm to someone just because of their religion or skin colour, i.e beating up or killing those people.

I knew our armed forces were institutionally racist - maddogs' definition proves it.

[BoneDog]

To be honest, I have questioned the asian influence in this country and have pondered on whether it is a positive one and there are some things which I do not like, which some people have called me racist, I think they should stop teaching kids the Islamic language in some schools to asians and to white kids. I was speaking to some English expat in Kerkyra and they were saying, they moved out to Greece because their kids were being taught to speak Islamic and how they wouldnt expect their kids, in a public school to get taught English in greece. I am not sure if this has been changed now but make sure it is illegal for women in bhurkas to drive a car or even when they are showing their passport at an airport, show them their face! Also, I don't think laws should be made to fit with the Islam religion. Now dont get me wrong, I couldnt give a damn on what skin colour they are but this country has history and tradition, so I dont mind if any old person from anywhere round the world came here as long as they respect everyone living in this great nation.

There is no such language as Islamic.

So people move to another country cos they teach Arabic in 1 out of 100 schools? They teach German, Spanish and French in most schools but that doesn't seem to bother anyone.

If people want to have an Islamic school that's ok. There's catholic schools and it's up to parents where they send their kids to learn

[lavrentis]

There is no such language as Islamic.

So people move to another country cos they teach Arabic in 1 out of 100 schools? They teach German, Spanish and French in most schools but that doesn't seem to bother anyone.

If people want to have an Islamic school that's ok. There's catholic schools and it's up to parents where they send their kids to learn

I dont know its only what he told me!!!

Dont get on my back

He said it was a public school in Liverpool.

He works in Greece now in the hotels doing crap for tourists.

[BoneDog]

The thing that gets my end up most is how that we're not allowed to display flags, or close roads to celebrate things due to people from other religions complaining. It's our country for god sake.

We don't moan when other religions have festivals that they celebrate, closing roads, putting up banners etc.

I do know it's only the minority that normally complain, but if they can have their celebrations, why can't we have ours?

It is a very touchy subject though, and I have a few friends from different cultures, backgrounds, religion and race.

It's not the other religions/races that stop the flag waving. It's government or councils who are trying to create divisions.

Minorities always get the blame for people having to take flags down but in reality it is some English nobhead in an office somewhere who makes these decisions. That's a fact

[BoneDog]

I dont know its only what he told me!!!

Dont get on my back

He said it was a public school in Liverpool.

He works in Greece now in the hotels doing crap for tourists.

I wasn't gettin on your back, sorry if it sounded like that. Just saying it sounded a bit racist what they said.

There are 20 million Chinese who learn Arabic, hundreds of millions of Africans, Jamaicans, Americans and millions of white Europeans. Can't see the problem of 1 in a 100 schools teaching it

[Finnegan]

It's never REALLY too late for a sexy protest.

[Daggers]

It's never REALLY too late for a sexy protest.

After the last ball has been kicked, after the final whistle has blown, after the last fan has departed - that's pretty late.

[Flynny]

We all make assumptions based on what we see. If a particular ethnic group is particularly disadvantaged, we connote negative things with them whether we're aware of it or not. Some people can ignore it, some can't.

Once prejudice takes hold, though, said connotations become a self-fulfilling prophecy. This is how positive discrimination is justified by some, because its' proponents think it's the only way to break the cycle.

[AoWW]

Anyway, back to the Fairy Celebrations...

Daggers - do you still want to borrow my wand?

[BoneDog]

When are we going to be allowed to forget that?There was slavery in Africa (and still is in places) while we were still living in caves.

To hear some people talk you'd think all these slaves were stolen from peace loving socialist utopias. The fact is most slaves taken to America were captured prisoners sold to the traders by rival tribal chiefs.The conditions that slaves in America lived in were better than working class European peasants at the same time.

I don't know what films you watch, but the slaves weren't living a comfy life. I think you are reading/watching distorted history. And it has nothing to do with how peasants in Europe were living. Seperate subject

Millions of stolen people disappeared, either being chucked overboard on the way to the states or being sold for who knows what when they got there. I'm sure they would of rather stayed at home. And the problems in Africa wouldn't of been a quarter as bad without the white slave traders going there and paying warlords to bring them as many people as possible

[BoneDog]

Actually in that period yes a lot of people suffered like that under the ruling classes of Europe , they weren't slaves but they were as good as.

People still suffer like this under the ruling classes today. That is what they are about and have always been. They keep some people happy and shit on the rest

[Daggers]

Daggers - do you still want to borrow my wand?

If it can bring beer from the kitchen to the front room then 'yes'.

Failing that, if it can summon lazy women from their slumber to come downstairs and fetch beer from the kitchen then 'yes'.

[BoneDog]

No ethnic group is blameless, but the world's moved on. There are laws against discrimination. I honestly believe that people will never improve their circumstances while they blame others for their plight.

The world hasn't moved on at all. More people get mass-murdered now than ever. The 20th century was the bloodiest in history and the 21st is already set to overtake that.

The reason peoples circumstances will never improve is because people believe the illusion that 'leaders of the world' really give a shit about us. It's laughable to me when people stick up for any world leader. They all sell weapons to eachother and also manufacture thousands of tons of chemical weapons (which when they get used they will blame others for). The situation is that bad you have to laugh

[Finnegan]

After the last ball has been kicked, after the final whistle has blown, after the last fan has departed - that's pretty late.

I never thought they'd make a quitter out of you, Captain McDaggers.

[Daggers]

I never thought they'd make a quitter out of you, Captain McDaggers.

It's all about the fairy.

I have tutu, wings and boots.

[BoneDog]

Do you know who the white slavers got their black slaves from most of the time. As Webbo says black opportunists who captured people from rival tribes and sold them on for profit. Even today some of their ancestors are still butchering one another as tribal ethnic cleansing continues.

Ye sthey are still up to this but only because they are kept in power by western countries. Fact.

Everytime a half decent leader is installed there is a western backed coup to get rid.

[Bert]

The "it's our country" attitude annoys me - but I do agree with Bert.

When people say things like "it's our country" what are they implying? That it isn't Singh's too? It isn't Raj's? That if you aren't a white, Christian, ethnic Englishman it will never be your country? Now - yes Bert - I know that's not what you meant to say and yes I'm twisting your words but a lot of people don't really think about what they're saying.

I do agree with you, though, I think it's tragic the English don't, or feel they can't, celebrate being English more. It's a multi-cultural country at the end of the day and everyone should feel that they've the right to go out and celebrate what they are and that includes the English, too.

It's unfortunate that most celebrations of "Englishness" are hijacked by the sort of muppets that tried to organize that pseudo-rally in Leicester a couple of weks ago. It's not the so-called "PC crowd" you have to blame it's extremist muppets like them.

Yeah, i didn't mean it to come across like that. Singh and Raj, are two of the nicest people I'll ever met.

The second bit in bold was pretty much my main point.

Not had a great day to be fair!

[Alexikokopops]

Yeah, i didn't mean it to come across like that. Singh and Raj, are two of the nicest people I'll ever met.

The second bit in bold was pretty much my main point.

Not had a great day to be fair!

Racist

[J.Lisemore]

Aslong as the people speak English...I have no problem. The way i see it is if you want to live in England, at least make the effort to speak the basic language.