England Bid for World Cup 2018

[purpleronnie]

I wonder quite how much council tax money is going to be frittered on shite marketing executives across the country, as each tinpot councillor attempts to outdo his equal and opposite in another town?

Useless tits.

this.

[CosbehFox]

Extending a stadium, espescially for the likes of Bristol, Plymouth, Portsmouth, Hull and even possibly ourselves could lead to serious shit and is it really worth it for 1 group game between Angola and Honduras??

Edit: Forgot MKDonalds.

I actually agree, interesting to see Bristol's new design includes a temporary extension for the WC.

if you're going to use population figures use the right ones. The Birmingham & Manchester city regions have 2.2m people. But these include places like Wolverhampton, West Bromwich, Wigan, Rochdale & Oldham.

The Leeds City Region has a population of 2.9m

so, to correct you

Leeds-Elland Road-50k (assuming only West stand redeveloped)-2.9m

Hold on, I did say that the figures were dodgy as it was difficult to say what you'd define city pull. As you mentioned the Brum figures include. the places you mention.

However that Leeds figure is utter bollocks. The last census said 761k for the Leeds City area and 1.5m for the West Yorkshire area (which includes Hudds, Bradford, Dewsbury).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_large...s_by_population

You're claiming Leeds is the second biggest city in the country? Walk On! It's the second largest populated area by unitary council.

[fox24]

hi was told by a friend at work that it had been on radio leicester that leicester city were planning on extending the walkers stadium from 32,000 to 40,000 and more details were going to be unveiled soon???can anyone tell me if this is true and if so more details about it if they know an please thanks a lot

[Webbo]

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[fox24]

so does anyone know about any extension to the walkers stadium???

[davieG]

so does anyone know about any extension to the walkers stadium???

If you read the thread you'd find out that if England get the 2018 World Cup and LCFC are nominated as a World Cup Venue then they would need to increase the capacity to 40k+

[weluv]

yes the figures are tricky, so you need to look at what is being compared to each other.

Leeds, just as a city, on its own=450k

Leeds, Metropolitan District=761k (liverpool is lister higher, but that is the metropolitan district, not within the city boundaries)

West Yorkshire Urban Area=1.5m

Leeds City Region=2.9m

The Manchester Urban Zone (i.e. Greater Manchester) has 2.5m people, Leeds City Region (which is about the same size) has 2.9m

the problem people to seem to have is the topography, and the fact we still have West Yorkshire, not some bullshit 'Greater Leeds' county. No-one would deny that Rochdale or Oldham were in Greater Manchester, but put Castleford or Halifax up next to leeds, and the response is that they're not nearby.

[CosbehFox]

yes the figures are tricky, so you need to look at what is being compared to each other.

Leeds, just as a city, on its own=450k

Leeds, Metropolitan District=761k (liverpool is lister higher, but that is the metropolitan district, not within the city boundaries)

West Yorkshire Urban Area=1.5m

Leeds City Region=2.9m

The Manchester Urban Zone (i.e. Greater Manchester) has 2.5m people, Leeds City Region (which is about the same size) has 2.9m

the problem people to seem to have is the topography, and the fact we still have West Yorkshire, not some bullshit 'Greater Leeds' county. No-one would deny that Rochdale or Oldham were in Greater Manchester, but put Castleford or Halifax up next to leeds, and the response is that they're not nearby.

Exactly, it's bloody difficult to seperate. If we look at one way, would the amount of population around Leeds within a thirty minute radius huge and such a measurement would probably be a more accurate assessment of it all.

[Fox92]

Why have Nottingham pulled out?

Damn

[Fosse Boy]

Why have Nottingham pulled out?

Damn

Why would you want Nottingham to get it above Leicester?

[CosbehFox]

They haven't pulled out....just appears their bid is up the creek with no planned stadium development or 'agreed' stadium development.

[Guest]

Why have Nottingham pulled out?

Damn

Try reading this

Someone should tell them in Nottingham; they still have the banners all over the place!!

[Fox92]

Why would you want Nottingham to get it above Leicester?

Because I live in Nottinghamshire.

They haven't pulled out....just appears their bid is up the creek with no planned stadium development or 'agreed' stadium development.

[Rich Fox]

Because I live in Nottinghamshire.

Are you tring to be clever/

[teblin]

Because I live in Nottinghamshire.

I live in derbyshire not far from either derby or nottingham but would want leicester to win because i'm a Leicester fan and from leicester!

[Fosse Boy]

Because I live in Nottinghamshire.

But you're a Leicester fan? Isn't Worksop nearer to Sheffield anyway?

[lavrentis]

Selfish.

[Nick]

I hear the bid for 2018 is flailing somewhat......... anybody know why? I thought it appeared to have a fair bit of support, yet the media implies it is close to dead in the water........ anybody know any details on this?

[davieG]

I hear the bid for 2018 is flailing somewhat......... anybody know why? I thought it appeared to have a fair bit of support, yet the media implies it is close to dead in the water........ anybody know any details on this?

That reliable source that is the Mercury still publishes it's daily 'support the world cup bid' article so it must be ok.

[CosbehFox]

The whole England bid is failing because it's not being politically savvy. In fact, it's being crude in it's attempts such as the recent 'gift' of Mulberry handbags to partners of the FIFA delegate. To top it off no-one's reading from the same page/

[BlueSi13]

Well theres mixed reports coming from all over the shop, Jack Warners statements should be taken with a big gulp of salt imo.

We could host the tournament tomorrow if it came to it, we have the richest, strongest, and most watched leagues in the world, according the Franz Beckenbauer we have the best facilities and support for the game in the world, and we did the small matter of actually inventing the modern game, so why we seemingly "struggle" with a bid everytime is beyond me, im certainly no sceptic but maybe a bit of "anybody but England" is in effect in some corridors of power within FIFA. I truly doubt it is the case but it would be nice for someone from FIFA to say something nice about us from time to time without attempting to put us down or try and pretend we don't exist in the history of the game.

What concerns me the most though is the utter silence from Milan Mandaric concerning what he actually plans to do to make Leicester a viable option to be a host city, no word from him or the council on the necessary stadium improvements (a barebones expansion simply isn't going to do it) or the gargantuan improvements needed for Leicester as a city to be a host for the biggest competition in the world. We must be the only ones not to do so which makes me think our own bid as a city was always just half hearted and that it was relying on god knows what for it to be successful.

[lcfc81]

I hear the bid for 2018 is flailing somewhat......... anybody know why? I thought it appeared to have a fair bit of support, yet the media implies it is close to dead in the water........ anybody know any details on this?

Hey Nick

Which bid are you refering to England or Leicester?

[lcfc81]

Well theres mixed reports coming from all over the shop, Jack Warners statements should be taken with a big gulp of salt imo.

We could host the tournament tomorrow if it came to it, we have the richest, strongest, and most watched leagues in the world, according the Franz Beckenbauer we have the best facilities and support for the game in the world, and we did the small matter of actually inventing the modern game, so why we seemingly "struggle" with a bid everytime is beyond me, im certainly no sceptic but maybe a bit of "anybody but England" is in effect in some corridors of power within FIFA. I truly doubt it is the case but it would be nice for someone from FIFA to say something nice about us from time to time without attempting to put us down or try and pretend we don't exist in the history of the game.

What concerns me the most though is the utter silence from Milan Mandaric concerning what he actually plans to do to make Leicester a viable option to be a host city, no word from him or the council on the necessary stadium improvements (a barebones expansion simply isn't going to do it) or the gargantuan improvements needed for Leicester as a city to be a host for the biggest competition in the world. We must be the only ones not to do so which makes me think our own bid as a city was always just half hearted and that it was relying on god knows what for it to be successful.

My understanding was we were one of the few places with any planning permission in place and other clubs bids did not have this in place (could be wrong though). As regards preparing the city I think this would happen in line with the rugby world cup plans which to my knowledge also haven't been majorly advertised.

Also think it might have gone quite as I think that the bid has been entered now was def. sometime in november

I might be being optermistic though!

[davieG]

From the Merc:

Staging World Cup football in Leicester would result in a £90m windfall for the city's economy, it has been estimated.

However, first city councillors must next week agree in principle to pledge £15.3m of taxpayers' money should Leicester be part of a successful England bid to host the planet's biggest sporting event.

That is the amount that would have to be spent on marketing and improving the city, for example upgrading public transport, so it meets FIFA's standards to be a host.

Leicester's bid, which has been backed by the likes of Gary Lineker, rock band Kasabian and the Leicester City squad, will be formally submitted to the FA in London next Thursday, as long as city councillors give it the official go-ahead at a full meeting on Wednesday.

Organisers of the England bid have told candidate host cities they can expect a return of £90m based on figures from the German World Cup in 2006, which attracted more than 33.6 million people to stadiums and 18 million to fan parks.

Leicester is bidding to host up to four games at an expanded Walkers Stadium and would expect to attract at least 200,000 fans from across the world who would gather at huge festivals in Victoria Park and Abbey Park. Leicester City would pay for the stadium expansion.

James Conaghan, manager of the Ramada Jarvis hotel, in Granby Street, said the World Cup "could only benefit Leicester".

He said: "It's the biggest tournament in the world and will bring thousands of people to the city."

Those behind the campaign believe it would have a massive knock-on effect, creating jobs and boosting business for hotels and leisure industries, as well as raising the city's international profile.

City fan Matt Hunt, 24, of Leicester's West End, said: "The number of people coming from all over the world would be massive and it would bring it would really put the city on the map. I don't think you can put a price on that."

Leicester's Back the Bid campaign, supported by councillors, business leaders, football fans and the Leicester Mercury, has cost £100,000 since it was launched in May.

The FA will decide next month which 12 cities will host matches, should England be picked by FIFA in December 2010.

If Leicester is successful, the council will be asked by the FA for £350,000 towards the marketing budget for England's efforts to secure international support.

If England then landed the 2018 World Cup, Leicester would have to spend another £250,000 between 2011 and 2013 to pay for FIFA inspections and project management costs.

The staging of the event would have cost taxpayers an estimated £15.3m by the time of the first match.

City council leader Councillor Ross Willmott said: "Leicester's selection as a host city would bring enormous benefits to the city's economy, a major boost to hotels and the tourism and leisure industries, and the creation of new jobs."

[jonw88]

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leic...ire/8368406.stm