Newcastle Away Post Match Thread

[davieG]

I don't think you can put the lack of chance solely down to Gallagher & N'Gussan.

Although Oakley and Wellens passed the ball around quite well they produced next to nothing in the way of chances for the forwards, where were the defence splitting passes?

I don't think they backed Howard up very well either most of the possession he had was wasted through their lack of following up and support. One of the few times Oakley got in the box was when Fryatt missed his best chance.

[SOCCERROO FOX]

Obviously my first game I have seen in a while but I really do hope it was a once off poor game from both full backs. Neither filled me with any confidence both didn't do a lot wrong defensively but they didn't attack with any pace or venom going forward down the wings. Also both gave nothing going forward and although Nielsen improved his passing in the sencond half, first half was woeful

[Daggers]

People aren't giving enough credit to a solid performance from Enrique.

[reynard]

A good reality check for all.

We simply don't have the quality in depth to compete at the top end of this league. The best teams can afford 1 or 2 of their best players to have off days we can't.

We are making progress but 4 goals in 5 league games says it all.

[Daggers]

I think i've drunken myself into making sense

[General Smuts]

You've obviously been misled by the results.

That was a par performance for us from the games I've seen so far.

We're good for three quarters and always fade away in the last quarter.

Someone complained that the commentator kept saying 'quality'. But it was obvious to me that Newcastle have more quality than we do. Let's not forget 6 months ago we were two divisions apart. We generally had less quality than our opponents throughout the Martin O'Neill / Premiership years, but we also had a sign saying 'Foxes never quit' that meant something and through that (Walshy, Lennon, Elliott etc.) we could still compete. Not at the moment. Hopefully that will re-emerge.

I've been watching Leicester for 16 years now. This has ALWAYS been our problem.

[Daggers]

We are making progress but 4 goals in 5 league games says it all.

Children: read the above post, copy-paste it into your sigs and digest its contents.

[breadandcheese]

I think you're right about Pearson - but I don't believe it would have altered the outcome, they were clearly stronger than us.

No one in Newcastle complained when Andy Cole needed 3 or 4 efforts to score because they created more than that number of opportunities for him - that's what we didn't do tonight, no quality in provision in the second.

It was frustrating to see us have no creative spark in midfield.

Our back four and central midfielders were solid today, and more than comfortable (particularly as Newcastle were playing in 4-5-1). It was up to us break them down and for that you have to look at the wingers to create and cause problems. At times, we got into good areas, only for a silly pass, or watching N'Guessan trot into a metaphorical cul-de-sac. It was decisions.

However, Newcastle were no more creative than us. They have stronger players in certain areas, but they're not streaks ahead of us by any means.

With regards Fryatt, it's just frustrating. Can't he score the first chance and miss the second rather than the other way round?

I think back to Sheffield Utd where he was one-on-one at couldn't beat the keeper. Tonight, where he does all the hard work and then should play the simple ball. He has the ability, it's just concentration. Of course, I know that if he had that, he wouldn't be with us and would be a premiership striker, but it's just frustrating, as he has the ability.

[cecchini]

well,first game i have seen - in a bar in luxembourg!

I felt we wern't so bad. as most have said, good in the first half less good in the second.

we were much better than i expected, am pissed we lost but happy with what i saw.

good work

[Darkzzz_]

People aren't giving enough credit to a solid performance from Enrique.

Agree with that, thought he was good. Covers his CB's well too. Although I didn't expect anything other than him to come out on top against Dany. Experience really shone tonight.

[flanimal]

We were pretty poor yes, but that is probably as hard as a game we'll get. Middlesbrough away, perhaps. But we coped OK, to lose 1-0 isn't terrible, it's just disappointing that the team didn't take it to Newcastle. The formation was off balance from kick-off, and we didn't have a Plan B - we didn't seem to even have a Plan A!

[Legend_in_blue]

Pre-match it was difficult to tell who Newcastle were actually playing. No mention of us whatsoever.

During the game the commentators make it clear that 10 of the team were playing Premiership football last season. Five minutes later, they're praising the Newcastle performance considering they've got so many players out injured. Whatever. Complete incompetent numpties the pair of them.

Post-match yet again we get no mention whatsoever.

As for the game, it was decided by two things for me. 1 Fryatt's miss. 2 A touch of brilliance from Guthrie. Five minutes earlier I was saying to the lads it would take a moment of brilliance to get through us and blow me there it was.

In the end we were done by a masterful strike. Bizarrely, if you're going to get done, I'd take it like that tbh.

We still look pretty solid and although we looked dangerous in the first, we looked leggy, uncommited and lathargic in the second. Shame. Newcastle were there for the taking with a little more desire and clinical finishing. Hats off to their keeper too, he kept them in it first 30 minutes.

We shouldn't moan, we were playing the Orient last season while Newcastle were visiting Anfield and Old Trafford. We're feeling a bit gutted not to get anything out of it but yet look how far we have come.

Time and patience required. I'd still give us a good shout for a top ten finish.

[Guest Mee-9]

Neilson winds me up. Runs up to where a right winger would be, then he won't fall back when the opposition are in our half. Meh pretty happy tho, 1-0 isnt bad.

[shen]

I don't think you can put the lack of chance solely down to Gallagher & N'Gussan.

Although Oakley and Wellens passed the ball around quite well they produced next to nothing in the way of chances for the forwards, where were the defence splitting passes?

I don't think they backed Howard up very well either most of the possession he had was wasted through their lack of following up and support. One of the few times Oakley got in the box was when Fryatt missed his best chance.

Spot on. Oakley and Wellens were often standing on the same line and too close to eachother. That said, had Fryatt passed to the storming Wellens instead of shooting...

Newcastle were quite compact though and with the lack of pace (and runs by Gallagher & N'guessan) up front, they were pretty much left to lumping it up to Steve,

Obviously my first game I have seen in a while but I really do hope it was a once off poor game from both full backs. Neither filled me with any confidence both didn't do a lot wrong defensively but they didn't attack with any pace or venom going forward down the wings. Also both gave nothing going forward and although Nielsen improved his passing in the sencond half, first half was woeful

What are people expecting of Berner and Neilson? I mean, both of them went forward quite a bit. Every time the ball came to our left side, Berner was there to receive it or make a run. Both of them found themselves by the edge of the area a number of times. We didn't take enough advantage of that. The delivery wasn't up to scratch admittedly, but they tracked back quite well if you ask me. Neilson in the second half especially battled really well. He seems to know his weaknesses, and I prefer him to 'take two touches and pass it back' than losing the ball to an onrushing Newcastle player

[SOCCERROO FOX]

People aren't giving enough credit to a solid performance from Enrique.

He also had good support which meant from germi I think it was dropping in and helping out forcing it to be 2 on 1 regularly.

U can see tho that Nguessan will cause weaker opposition a lot of problems as he looks to take u on

[Edmund]

Im surprised no one has snapped Smith up. He had a quality game. Gave Howard a good run for his money.

[maddog]

Very poor 2nd half.

Couldn't create anything in the final third.

Dyer and Waghorn came on and had no effect.

Adams should have been bought on earlier.

Very unlucky not to score in 1st half.

Fryatt what a numpty, crucial chances missed by him saw us relegated last time here and once again a crucial chance missed by him cost us HUGELY.

We are still lacking upfront for that clinical striker, shame not to see Yann on bench tonight.

Could do with another winger.

[General Smuts]

[CockneyFox]

However, Newcastle were no more creative than us. They have stronger players in certain areas, but they're not streaks ahead of us by any means.

Maybe I was watching a different game but I thought they had several chances to put us to bed. Possession-wise we were pretty equal but they looked more likely in the final 3rd, we just hit a brick wall and resorted to long punts from Brown.

[shen]

People aren't giving enough credit to a solid performance from Enrique.

Which is why I regard the lack of threat from our wings as a one-off. We won't play against such quality fullbacks every week.

[shen]

Im surprised no one has snapped Smith up. He had a quality game. Gave Howard a good run for his money.

One word: Wages

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

I have to say that I am very, pissed off with the fact we did not get a point. We really had enough chances to score in the first half, and I'm sorry but Fryatt should haver hit the target at least from that 3 on 2 situation or squared it to Howard. We did well and more than matched them despite not getting in their penalty area much at all.

Then in the 2nd half we looked very poor with not much happening at all. N'Guessan started the game well and got progressively worse and it seemed that we were always going down the middle with both wingers being just in front of Oakley and Wellens and not actually on the wings.

This was the first time I can remember actually being disappointed with NP's tactics and use of substitutions. I didn't understand why Gallagher started on the left as Adams has played well so far and Gallagher just didnt look comfortable there. I thought it was obvious on about 60 mins that N'Guessan had faded well out of the game. I expected NP to change it some how, again with the option of Adams coming on or to bring King on and stick Oakley out wide. But he brings Dyer on for Gallagher and it was almost like he had been told to run around a lot in the midfield but never actually be on the left wing. I agreed that Fryatt should come off for Waghorn, but he was very disappointing, not really offering much at all. Then on 89 mins Adams does come on! And what is the point of that? We were just wasting our own time in making the sub!

I am worried we havent scored in the first half in the league yet and also the fact we didnt look like scoring in the second period. We havent scored enough in general, with 4 being the total when i really think it should be 6 or 7.

No need to panic yet of course, but I really think we have to beat Blackpool and Posh to get us back on track if weare pushing for the playoffs.

[Edmund]

And to all those slagging Fryatt off give the guy a rest. I thought he did exceptionally well with the chance until the finish. Admittedly I would have loved him to see him finish it but it wasn't to be. I bet if he had passed it and the receiver missed he would be getting shit for not taking it on and having a pop himself. The guy can't win. I could understand if he had ten clear chances and missed the works but from what I can remember that was his only real chance.

[leicesterseddon]

First game I've missed this season Watched it on Sky, think we gave a good account of ourselves in the first half but we had nothing to say for ourselves in the second.

I think starting Gallagher on the left was a mistake, and he barely touched the ball in the first half apart from a good free-kick. N'Guessan looked very clumsy, was surprised he started with him on the right given how well Adams has played there so far this season. Our movement again was a problem, and we started to resort to hoofball tactics, something I don't think we've been too guilty of this season up until this match.

Having said all this, ultimately the difference between us was a great strike from a player of real quality, and we won't be facing that every week in this division. Considering we've had a tough start to the season, I'm still happy with where we are.

[Sniffer-Clarke]

I think Pearson got it wrong tonight. First time in a long time, but he got it wrong.

Gallagher shouldn't have started on the left. I think it was an admission when he took him off. N'Guessan should have been taken off much earlier after putting in a poor performance tonight. On reflection, to call it poor is being kind to N'Guessan. Our strikers had virtually nothing to feed off as a result. I still can't see what N'Guessan offers over Adams or Gradel (other than height).

It's disappointing that Fryatt still needs 2 or 3 chances to score, rather than being able to take that one chance when needed.

It was also disappointing that Newcastle looked to play on the counter-attack at home. Lookng back, we should have just sat back, played for the draw and asked them to come at us. It wouldn't have been pretty, but would have been effective.

I agree with what you say,and fryatt convinced me again he cannot cut it at this level especially against the better teams i am sure that if we had a class striker tonight we would have pissed this game.