Team for Palace

[Jimmy]

Weale

Morrison Hobbs Brown Berner

Adams King Wellens Gradel

Gallagher Waghorn

that's what I'd like to see but I know it'll never happen, what it'll probably be is

Weale

Morrison Hobbs Brown Berner

Gallagher Oakley Wellens Dyer

Kermit Fryatt

[maddog]

Weale

Morrison

Hobbs

Brown

Berner

Adams

Wellens

Oakley

Dyer

Campbell

Kermo

Subs: Fryatt, Waghorn, King, N'Guessan, Logan, Mcgivern, Gallagher.

Changes must be made, Howard can be out of the squad altogether.

[Jimmy]

Already here

[clazkel]

Weale

Morrison Hobbs Brown Berner

Adams Wellens Oakley Dyer

Howard Fryatt

or

Weale

Morrison Hobbs Brown Berner

Oakley King Wellens

Howard

Fryatt Waghorn

We need to attack palace with pace or have someone who can put decent balls in the box

[MPH]

Didnt think Yann had done anything wrong to lose his place..

[milan_foxes]

Thought King was MOTM today, has to be in there.

Howard played great in the first 2 or 3 mins then we useless, he can go.

I say we put Waghorn up front With GALLAGHER.

[Bert]

Weale

Morro

Berner (Think McGivern might play though.)

Hobbs

Brown

Oakley

Dyer

King

Wellens

Kermo

Fryatt (Would love to see Waghorn or DJ though)

[Lichfieldfox.]

It will be this:

Weale

Morrison Hobbs Brown Berner

Gallagher King Wellens Dyer

Kermorgant Fryatt

Subs: Logan McGivern Adams Oakley Howard Campbell Waghorn

[Heart-Shaped Fox]

I would like to see:

Weale

Morrison

Brown

Hobbs

Berner

N'Guessan

Oakley

King

Adams/Gallagher

Kermorgant

Fryatt

Subs: Howard, DJ, Waghorn, McGivern, Adams/Gallagher, Logan, Wellens

I dont think Wellens has played well the last couple of games, whilst King has so he gets in front of him as we wont drop the captain.

[dandannieldanok]

As long as everyone plays in their proper position I'm not fussed who plays. If we're playing 4-4-2, play two proper wingers!!!

[lildave3]

Weale

Same defence

Same midfield

Waggy and Yann.

[Thracian]

Would someone give me some reasons why they'd pick Kermorgant?

He showed a bit of a leap and a bit of skill in his first 15 minute cameo if memory serves but to me it's as bad as the Kaebi frenzy and we all know how that ended.

From what little I've seen so far he's not in DJ's class. Nor as good as Gallagher outside the box or as forceful of Waghorn in it. Yes, all the choices are flawed but right now, even 4-5-1 would be preferable to using strikers who don't score cos I can't see the point in that at all.

Not that I think it is just the striker's to blame. I think our problems stem from our back line just as they did in the days of Kisnorbo and company.

And to some extent from Oakley because the manager is having to find a position for him and that ain't necessarily what the team needs. Each position needs to be occupied by a specialist not a person being used for convenience' sake.

Even I've tried to find a position for Oakely - at right back - and well accept that it might not work but something has to be done both with Oakley and with our pace, passing and moving in the full-back departments.

I've little doubt that Pearson's idea of 4-3-3 with Oakley, King and Wellens as the central three could work. But not with

defensive full-backs and not with a malfunctioning strike force.

Football teams are all about balance and, sadly, ours is lacking in that department.

[Father Ted]

Weale

Morrison Hobbs Brown Berner

Oakley King Wellens

Waghorn ------------------------------ Dyer

Fryatt

Subs: Logan, O'Neill, McGivern, Gallagher, Gradel, Howard, Kermorgant.

[maddog]

Would someone give me some reasons why they'd pick Kermorgant?

He showed a bit of a leap and a bit of skill in his first 15 minute cameo if memory serves but to me it's as bad as the Kaebi frenzy and we all know how that ended.

From what little I've seen so far he's not in DJ's class. Nor as good as Gallagher outside the box or as forceful of Waghorn in it. Yes, all the choices are flawed but right now, even 4-5-1 would be preferable to using strikers who don't score cos I can't see the point in that at all.

Not that I think it is just the striker's to blame. I think our problems stem from our back line just as they did in the days of Kisnorbo and company.

And to some extent from Oakley because the manager is having to find a position for him and that ain't necessarily what the team needs. Each position needs to be occupied by a specialist not a person being used for convenience' sake.

Even I've tried to find a position for Oakely - at right back - and well accept that it might not work but something has to be done both with Oakley and with our pace, passing and moving in the full-back departments.

I've little doubt that Pearson's idea of 4-3-3 with Oakley, King and Wellens as the central three could work. But not with

defensive full-backs and not with a malfunctioning strike force.

Football teams are all about balance and, sadly, ours is lacking in that department.

He showed more class in the Coventry game for me than Howard has shown all season.

I would always pick Kermo ahead of Howard, but would like to see Waghorn/Campbell Tuesday.

[jimmy7587]

Hey all

I was a little surprised to see that big Steve was starting today. Sure, I can understand that he may have put more effort in at training due to the hype of playing his former club, but surely the sheer fact he hasn't scored since the Leeds game last year (I think that is right, correct me if I'm wrong) should be a worry. Don't get me wrong, I supported him throughout last season when he had doubters but he has yet to score this season and I feel that Waghorn, Kermogant and even DJ Campbell should be given more of a chance.

Howard would be a good foil, by coming on to change tactics, rather like clubs have used Peter Crouch. Using his heading abilities can change a game I agree, but I feel that at 33 and with low confidence that he may not be the right guy for us to win games. Since Matty has dried up in front of goal, we need others to chip in, and the other striker should be netting. Perhaps Nige is scouting strikers for January, who knows??

What does everyone else think? Today was annoying, the second half was a disappointment. The first half we were completely dominant and should have created more chances really. As long as we don't lose when we are playing badly.

Palace on Tuesday; a chance for Waghorn, Kermogant, Campbell or Gallagher rather than Howard???

[Jiggers the Fox]

Weale

Morrison

Brown

Hobbs

Berner

Oakley

Wellens

King

Dyer

Kermo

Fryatt

Subs: Howard, Deej, Adams, Mcgivern, Logan

[fatboy]

Would someone give me some reasons why they'd pick Kermorgant?

He showed a bit of a leap and a bit of skill in his first 15 minute cameo if memory serves but to me it's as bad as the Kaebi frenzy and we all know how that ended.

From what little I've seen so far he's not in DJ's class. Nor as good as Gallagher outside the box or as forceful of Waghorn in it. Yes, all the choices are flawed but right now, even 4-5-1 would be preferable to using strikers who don't score cos I can't see the point in that at all.

Not that I think it is just the striker's to blame. I think our problems stem from our back line just as they did in the days of Kisnorbo and company.

And to some extent from Oakley because the manager is having to find a position for him and that ain't necessarily what the team needs. Each position needs to be occupied by a specialist not a person being used for convenience' sake.

Even I've tried to find a position for Oakely - at right back - and well accept that it might not work but something has to be done both with Oakley and with our pace, passing and moving in the full-back departments.

I've little doubt that Pearson's idea of 4-3-3 with Oakley, King and Wellens as the central three could work. But not with

defensive full-backs and not with a malfunctioning strike force.

Football teams are all about balance and, sadly, ours is lacking in that department.

From Monday's Mercury

Nigel Pearson believes the emergence of striker Yann Kermorgant has added another dimension to his attacking options.

Pearson has preferred the Frenchman to Steve Howard in the last two away trips, at Middlesbrough and Coventry City.

While the former Stade Reims player has yet to score, Pearson has been pleased with his overall contribution and looks set to continue to partner Matty Fryatt against Derby on Saturday.

"I thought he did very well at Coventry," said Pearson.

"Technically he is excellent. I thought he was difficult for them to play against at the Ricoh Arena. He showed some very encouraging signs.

"I was never worried about him adapting to the physical nature of English football because that his is game anyway. He is a physically and very resilient player. He is a very good addition to the squad.

"Possibly, it is the first time we have had like-for-like cover for Steve Howard. He is different but if you are thinking of the aerial threat, he does give us a different option in that sense.

"He wins a lot of headers but he is a slightly different player and gives us a different option."

Pearson's assistant, Craig Shakespeare, said the entire coaching staff had been impressed with the 27-year-old in training and said he was one of the best headers of a ball he had ever seen.

"I have to say, he has impressed everyone with his finishing ability," said Shakespeare.

"He is a natural finisher and is very good with either foot. He is also one of the best I have seen with his timing in the air. He hangs there and is very good for his size.

"He will be a good addition for us and he has shown that he is quite capable of playing at this level. I am sure there will be more to come from him.

"He has settled in very well. He would be the first to admit that when he came here the pace of the game and the intensity caught him out a bit, but he has acclimatised quite well.

"By being a forward, goals have a lot to do with it. I would like to see him get his first goal which will give him a massive lift.

"His style is suited to the English game and hopefully he will go from strength to strength."

Not many people are in DJ's class, the ability to be offside, and not considrered good enough for League One by the present management team

Yann, Waghorn, Gallacher all deserve a chance to press their claims for a starting birth up front, by playing up front. Howard won some headers today, many were aimless, and had three headers, all failed to trouble the keeper.

[Bluefoxtim]

Thracian, seriously, Oakley at right-back?

Do you despise all players without a British passport?

Howard hasn't scored since April. Kermit has played a bit-part roll in what, 3 or 4 games?

[BlueFox_23]

I believe that we should start with DJ and Howard up front, my belief is that DJ should have been used today rather than waghorn.

[Thracian]

From Monday's Mercury

Nigel Pearson believes the emergence of striker Yann Kermorgant has added another dimension to his attacking options.

Pearson has preferred the Frenchman to Steve Howard in the last two away trips, at Middlesbrough and Coventry City.

While the former Stade Reims player has yet to score, Pearson has been pleased with his overall contribution and looks set to continue to partner Matty Fryatt against Derby on Saturday.

"I thought he did very well at Coventry," said Pearson.

"Technically he is excellent. I thought he was difficult for them to play against at the Ricoh Arena. He showed some very encouraging signs.

"I was never worried about him adapting to the physical nature of English football because that his is game anyway. He is a physically and very resilient player. He is a very good addition to the squad.

"Possibly, it is the first time we have had like-for-like cover for Steve Howard. He is different but if you are thinking of the aerial threat, he does give us a different option in that sense.

"He wins a lot of headers but he is a slightly different player and gives us a different option."

Pearson's assistant, Craig Shakespeare, said the entire coaching staff had been impressed with the 27-year-old in training and said he was one of the best headers of a ball he had ever seen.

"I have to say, he has impressed everyone with his finishing ability," said Shakespeare.

"He is a natural finisher and is very good with either foot. He is also one of the best I have seen with his timing in the air. He hangs there and is very good for his size.

"He will be a good addition for us and he has shown that he is quite capable of playing at this level. I am sure there will be more to come from him.

"He has settled in very well. He would be the first to admit that when he came here the pace of the game and the intensity caught him out a bit, but he has acclimatised quite well.

"By being a forward, goals have a lot to do with it. I would like to see him get his first goal which will give him a massive lift.

"His style is suited to the English game and hopefully he will go from strength to strength."

Not many people are in DJ's class, the ability to be offside, and not considrered good enough for League One by the present management team

Yann, Waghorn, Gallacher all deserve a chance to press their claims for a starting birth up front, by playing up front. Howard won some headers today, many were aimless, and had three headers, all failed to trouble the keeper.

DJ proved himself a bloody sight better as a goalscorer in the Championship than anyone you've mentioned has done in City's team this season.

Gallagher's had all sorts of chances and has hardly been near the penalty area in any of them.

Yann didn't get anywhere near the danger zone today and, indeed, every time I've watched him seemed more of an attacking midfielder than a striker.

Let me explain the word striker. At least what the word means to me. It's a guy who scores 18-25 goals a season whether he is technically brilliant or the ball bounces off his arse.

If Kergormant can do that, great, but I've seen absolutely no signs of it.

Furthermore all this talk about balls in the air bothers me. Almost every attack we make - and certainly every cross, ends with a high ball into the box and I've seen no-one threatening to get onto the end of them effectively apart from N'Guessan (who does look dangerous in that particular situation).

I'd far rather we modernised a bit and started to play the last ball along the floor more, just like the rest of the build up.

So many Championship defenders seem slow and vulnerable under pressure on the floor and I'd like us to spread em out and see if we can't exploit that.

Cos most crosses just end up in the goalkeeper's hands, on the centre-back's head or result in a free-kick because Steve Howard caught someone with his breath. They've certainly not brought us bags full of goals.

[teblin]

I'd like to see some shape and balanced restored to the side, as i feel that is what helped us do so well last season.

-------------Weale

Morrison Hobbs Brown Berner

Adams Oakley Wellens Dyer

---------Howard Gallagher

[Guest Mee-9]

Weale

Morrison

Brown

Hobbs

Berner

N'Guessan

Oakley

Wellens

Dyer

Kermorgant

Gallagher

Subs : McGiven, Fryatt, Howard, Adams, Logan , Waghorn, King

Despite king's good performance, i think NP will stick with the Wellens/Oakley Partnership. I know it's a bit of a longshot, no Howard or Fryatt, But like people said on Radio Leicester is a change in order?

[mmarkie]

GK:Weale

RB:Morrison

CB:Hobbs

CB:Brown

LB:Berner

RM:Adams

CM:Oakley©

CM;Wellens

LM:Dyer

ST:Kermo

ST:DJ

SUBS

Logan

Mcgivern

King

Fryatt

Howard

Waggy

Gallagher

[fatboy]

What about Porter, on the left wing?

I think he could be be the answer to England's left sided problem

Seriously though, I'd like to see a winger or two on the Bench, Gradel for DJ

[Father Ted]

Weale

Morrison

Brown

Hobbs

Berner

N'Guessan

Oakley

Wellens

Dyer

Kermorgant

Gallagher

Subs : McGiven, Fryatt, Howard, Adams, Logan , Waghorn, King

Despite king's good performance, i think NP will stick with the Wellens/Oakley Partnership. I know it's a bit of a longshot, no Howard or Fryatt, But like people said on Radio Leicester is a change in order?

Too much changing is the problem!