TrickyTrev Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 It's still spurious maths unless he actually has any knowledge of balancing the books at a major sporting club. Ofcourse it is spurious Maths! I've plucked the 20k a week thing out of the air! BUT, i don't need to know how much we would make on the average ticket. I'm only interested in the increases in marginal cost and marginal revenue. The cost increases of hosting an extra 10k are going to be negligible (When you have already invested in the infrastructure to do so. i.e we already have manned club shop/ticket office every day, we already have stewards in every exit of the ground, we already have workers at every food till, a man on every ticket gate) and the revenues great.
ibbosuk Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Well, obviously not even Davids can match the genius of the Kermo.One thing I wonder about, is what role they want Davids to play? Wellens is a kind of Davids player (not saying they are on the same level, just that they play a similar role), King is doing OK lately as a defensive midfielder. Oakley is now playing as RM. Are they just thinking about Davids as a squad player? £20,000 is a lot for a player to sit on a bench. As much as I love Davids, I can only think of one example of an aging legend doing well at City, and that's Les Ferdinand. All the others I can think of were pretty crap. Cottee, Speedie, Marshall...Shall I go on ?....YOUR MEMORY'S NOT THE BEST IS IT?
lou Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Flanimal said 'One thing I wonder about, is what role they want Davids to play? Wellens is a kind of Davids player (not saying they are on the same level, just that they play a similar role), King is doing OK lately as a defensive midfielder. Oakley is now playing as RM. Are they just thinking about Davids as a squad player? £20,000 is a lot for a player to sit on a bench.As much as I love Davids, I can only think of one example of an aging legend doing well at City, and that's Les Ferdinand. All the others I can think of were pretty crap.' Tony Cottee? Stan Collymore? TC was crap??!! How very dare you!
StanSP Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 As far as I know he doesn't have a club at all at the moment. We don't have such strict registration windows in England like they do in Germany and Italy so theoretically you can sign uncontracted players outside of the transfer window.If FM is to be believed there are deadlines for free transfers but I don't know specifically how that works and it's usually much, much later in the season. Last week in November or early December I think.
Finnegan Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Ofcourse it is spurious Maths! I've plucked the 20k a week thing out of the air!BUT, i don't need to know how much we would make on the average ticket. I'm only interested in the increases in marginal cost and marginal revenue. The cost increases of hosting an extra 10k are going to be negligible (When you have already invested in the infrastructure to do so) and the revenues great. Policing? Security? Staff to cater and clean? I'm no more of an expert on this shit than you so we're both just blowing it out of our arses but I can't imagine it's as simple as your sell X make Y maths.
andy_croydz Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Well, obviously not even Davids can match the genius of the Kermo.One thing I wonder about, is what role they want Davids to play? Wellens is a kind of Davids player (not saying they are on the same level, just that they play a similar role), King is doing OK lately as a defensive midfielder. Oakley is now playing as RM. Are they just thinking about Davids as a squad player? £20,000 is a lot for a player to sit on a bench. As much as I love Davids, I can only think of one example of an aging legend doing well at City, and that's Les Ferdinand. All the others I can think of were pretty crap. Brian Deane was good, I was a big fan of his. I highly doubt we will sign him though. I mean for a foreign footballer to come across to this country and get offered the same wages at 2 difference clubs and he sees 1 is in the Premiership and one is in the Championship... Well theres only going to be one winner.
Samilktray Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Hopefully Mark De Vries puts in a good word for us.
TrickyTrev Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Policing? Security? Staff to cater and clean? I'm no more of an expert on this shit than you so we're both just blowing it out of our arses but I can't imagine it's as simple as your sell X make Y maths. Of course its not. But it's pretty obvious that the marginal profit of tickets between 22k and 32k is going to be pretty high, most of the infrastructure is fixed cost (Policing cost probably go up in line with attendances). I was just pointing out that with empty capacity and high ticket prices, Davids could plausibly pay for his wages pretty quickly. When Mandaric says that Leciester City can afford this he certainly doesn't mean from his own pocket, he means he thinks he can make some money out of this deal!
Ozwin Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Isn't there some money to be had in his image rights too?
Finnegan Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Isn't there some money to be had in his image rights too? Allegedly he'll "retain the majority of his image rights" which means we can stick him on the occasional poster in the club shop and that's about it.
Ozwin Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Bugger. Nike'll blatantly be interested again anyway and we'll have a lovely kit next season so it's all good.
andy_croydz Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Of course its not. But it's pretty obvious that the marginal profit of tickets between 22k and 32k is going to be pretty high, most of the infrastructure is fixed cost (Policing cost probably go up in line with attendances). I was just pointing out that with empty capacity and high ticket prices, Davids could plausibly pay for his wages pretty quickly. When Mandaric says that Leciester City can afford this he certainly doesn't mean from his own pocket, he means he thinks he can make some money out of this deal! I agree with this. If Davids did sign then we would get a surge in attendances IMO, maybe only for the first few home games depending on how we play and if we win but also we would get a fair bit of publicity from media and other clubs supporters. Not to mention that shirt sales with his name on it will increase too. All in all I don't think we would actually be 'wasting' any money if we sign him.
TrickyTrev Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Allegedly he'll "retain the majority of his image rights" which means we can stick him on the occasional poster in the club shop and that's about it. And pay him for the privilege!
MPH Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 People may not mlike the idea of his wages being 20k but we have been paying more than that for someone who hasnt even been playing - 23k to DJ. I personally would offload him, get Davids in and we would actually be SAVING money. increased ticket sales, Davids gear, and we would be quids in!
andy_croydz Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 If he signs i'm going to buy a replica pair of Davids sunglasses.
MPH Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 And pay him for the privilege! the 'majority' doesn't mean all, dont forget...
hackneyfox Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 TC was crap??!! How very dare you! fooking hell Lou, why do you think I used question marks. And from your reply can I take it that you though Stan was crap? How very dare YOU! ;-)
hackneyfox Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Brian Deane was good, I was a big fan of his.I highly doubt we will sign him though. I mean for a foreign footballer to come across to this country and get offered the same wages at 2 difference clubs and he sees 1 is in the Premiership and one is in the Championship... Well theres only going to be one winner. But Portsmouth aren't interested.
AyewJoking Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Nearly fell off the treadmill when this came on skysportsnews in the gym! Would love us to have one of the top midfielders in the game (10 years ago). Is Pearson onboard with this?
hackneyfox Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Aren't they? No http://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/28744...er_will_be.aspx
flanimal Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Tony Cottee?Stan Collymore? Cottee, Speedie, Marshall...Shall I go on ?....YOUR MEMORY'S NOT THE BEST IS IT? Fair enough, Cotte is a great example. But Collymore? He was only 29 when we signed him, hardly "aging". And Ian Marshall was only 30 when he joined us, and David Speedie isn't exactly what I call a legendary player, but I appreciate where you're coming from. EDIT: Brian Deane was good too. I understand a lot of older players have come in and done a job, but I'm referring more to world class legends like Mancini, N'Gotty coming here - and either being shit or effing off.
AyewJoking Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 This reminds me of the time i signed a 37 year old Del Piero on a free transfer on footie manager. There are a thousand reasons you shouldn't do it but you cant help yourself!
andy_croydz Posted 21 October 2009 Posted 21 October 2009 Nohttp://www.sport.co.uk/news/Football/28744...er_will_be.aspx No smoke without fire though, where did the Pompey rumour come from? Must have had some substance behind it.
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