davieG Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 If Rio gets it I think it proves beyond doubt that it's just a notional position that carries no authority. Although how someone who either deliberately missed drugs testing or was too thick to make sure he was available can be an Ambassador representing the English FA I've no idea and also confirms the stench of hypocrisy is getting stronger within the FA.
martyn Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 If Rio is captain we have no chance in the world cup. At least Terry has a brain cell between his ears, and can actually speak English.I'd much rather it was Gerrard or Barry. Time to retire from the forum methinks, can't top a post like that.
iancognito Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Ferdinand Terry is sacked for playing away with his team-mates' missus but Rio "Drugs test? No thanks" Ferdinand is alright? He's played for what, 180 minutes in the last 3 months? He wouldn't even make my first XI let alone be the captain.
breadandcheese Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Frank Lampard? I'm not advocating him for it, but just interested how no-one has even mentioned him when he's been one of the most consistent and exemplary midfielders in world football for a good decade.
Matt Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Fuck me, I didn't like Terry and wanted him stripped of the duty, but RIO? Rio Ferdinand shouldn't even be going anywhere near a plane going in the direction of South Africa this summer, let alone as captain. I'd rather Terry was captain in this case. Bloody hell.
Craig Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 I'm not a fan of forwards being captains, but i'd have chosen Rooney. Shame it'l be Rio
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Rio Ferdinand shouldn't even be going anywhere near a plane going in the direction of South Africa this summer, let alone as captain. I'd rather Terry was captain in this case. Bloody hell. This. Couldnt agree more, Ferdinand has hardly played all season and when he has he has been made a fool of.
Jimothy Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 To be honest. I'd rather have John Terry captain than Rio. Can't believe with huge doubts over fitness and form Capello hasn't come out and said despite naming Rio vice captain with those doubts in mind he is naming Gerrard captain. We need to get the naming of the captain sorted ASAP and I can see Rio struggling to make the plane meaning Gerrard will be a last minute captain. Although saying that, what Rio being captain does mean is he'll either have to be dead or crippled not to go, which is bad news judging by his recent form.
Matt Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Am I wrong in hoping Rio is the big England star due to get injured just in time for the world cup?
dandannieldanok Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 what's wrong with Rio being captain? Amazing how everyone complete denounces Terry, then before he's even been officially appointed, start laying into the new captain.
Matt Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 what's wrong with Rio being captain? Amazing how everyone complete denounces Terry, then before he's even been officially appointed, start laying into the new captain. You havn't see Rio's performances for England (And Man Utd) then? He's a liability, as I said he shouldn't even be at the airport to wave the players off to South Africa, let alone being on the plane as captain. I don't like Terry and didn't really want him as Captain, but i'd rather that than have Rio play especially as captain.
dandannieldanok Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 You havn't see Rio's performances for England (And Man Utd) then? He's a liability, as I said he shouldn't even be at the airport to wave the players off to South Africa, let alone being on the plane as captain.I don't like Terry and didn't really want him as Captain, but i'd rather that than have Rio play especially as captain. Eh? Rio's performances have been fine, I think you're mistaking him for Wes Brown, they look similar from a distance. If Rio's not fit for the plane and Terry's overrated, who plays then?
davieG Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 what's wrong with Rio being captain? Amazing how everyone complete denounces Terry, then before he's even been officially appointed, start laying into the new captain. Well seemingly Terry's been stripped of the Captaincy because he was seen as an unacceptable role model, it certainly wasn't for football reasons. So why replace him with someone who missed a drugs testing hardly a good role model . Someone who cheats on his wife or someone that tries to cheat a drugs test? Hypocritical if nothing else!
Matt Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Eh? Rio's performances have been fine, I think you're mistaking him for Wes Brown, they look similar from a distance.If Rio's not fit for the plane and Terry's overrated, who plays then? Terry's fine, he's good, but he is overrated as in 'the worlds best' comments.
dandannieldanok Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Well seemingly Terry's been stripped of the Captaincy because he was seen as an unacceptable role model, it certainly wasn't for football reasons. So why replace him with someone who missed a drugs testing hardly a good role model . Someone who cheats on his wife or someone that tries to cheat a drugs test? Hypocritical if nothing else! You could say exactly the same thing if Gerrard or Rooney are appointed. It's a viscous circle which is why I was wholly against stripping Terry of the captaincy in the first place.
davieG Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 You could say exactly the same thing if Gerrard or Rooney are appointed. It's a viscous circle which is why I was wholly against stripping Terry of the captaincy in the first place. I would, you either keep Terry or pick someone who's squeeky clean. For legal reasons - Gerrard hasn't actually been found guilty of anything. Terry or Lampard seem the only sensible and sincere options
brad1875 Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Rio shouldn't even be in the starting 11 IMO. He's past his best and he just isn't that good anymore, when he plays that is. It should of given too Gerrard, simply because, he'll be playing every game and he is captain for Liverpool too. So he has the experience. I have a bad feeling about this desicion made by Capello.
Donut Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 The decision to strip John Terry of the captains armband is a joke in my opinion He will clearly be in the squad for the world cup. If he is in the squad, his dressing room relationship with the players and state of mind to perform is obviously of a sufficient standard to play at centre back. If he is playing as a first team regular, why should he not be captain? People have commented on the radio that it is about dressing room splits. Well as i see it the split wouldnt be a 50/50 one, it would be more like Bridge and Barry on one side and everyone else on the other Even Ancelotti has had the sense to come out and say private lives are private and will have no impact on his captaincy for Chelsea. But now Rio is captain. But lets look at the cadidates for the armband a) Rio Ferdinand- Deliberately skipped a routine drugs test and was summonned to a 9 month ban by the FA, then had the audacity to party in a West End night club when he should have been on compassionate leave from a champions league game for Man Utd b) Steven Gerrard- Arrested following allegations of a brawl outside a nightclub in Liverpool, escaping affray charges but said to have 'punched his victim like a professional boxer' c) Wayne Rooney- Utterly hot-headed on the pitch having been sent off in the last world cup at a crucial time v Portugal, disrespecting the black armbands worn for Alan Ball in the Spain friendly and was subsequently taken off for fear of him being sent off, throwing the armband away afterwards, being sent off for dissent stupidly in a champions league game vs Villarreal, raising an arm to Tal Ben Haim's face, and not to mention his extra-relationship affairs with a backstreet prostitute a couple of years ago. Ironically, Rio Ferdinands punishment was actually DIRECTLY a cause of an infringement of FA policy, John Terry's issues are a matter for his family, and for him and Bridge My thought: The decision has nothing to do with Terry as captain, more as a marker that we must continue to view Capello as an iron fist ruler and that the action taken is a subsequent warning to others not to step out of squad guidlines laid out by him. He has shown unquestionable consistency in decision making (which i consider a good thing- if NOT a good thing Terry has been stripped) The English gutter press: Trial by media
The Doctor Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 Eh? Rio's performances have been fine, I think you're mistaking him for Wes Brown, they look similar from a distance.If Rio's not fit for the plane and Terry's overrated, who plays then? you'd be best of with a CB pairing of upson & woodgate/dawson. Matt Oakley! :scarf: :scarf: :P :P Chris Powell! or Chris Weale.
dandannieldanok Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 you'd be best of with a CB pairing of upson & woodgate/dawson. If we were Scottish and wanting England to fail miserably I'd agree with you.
The Doctor Posted 5 February 2010 Posted 5 February 2010 If we were Scottish and wanting England to fail miserably I'd agree with you. i'm sorry but upson is just as good as terry and both woodgate and dawson are miles ahead of ferdinand.
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