southdevonfox Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 dont u just love it when u hear ,,,, we should have beat them,, we are much better than them ,,,, we are only better than them if we show it on the pitch, i saw nothing at bristol or argyle to suggest we were better and lets face it plymouth need the points and they were up for it , why is it though leicester were in full control of both games in the first half and yet had to defend an onslaught in the 2nd halfs, keep the faith , were not losing even when playing bad .
foxaholic Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 Loving the attitude of "Plymouth are second from bottom therefore we should be walking all over them if we want to finish in the top 6" Exlcuding the FA cup, the last game we lost by more than 1 goal was Mariner's first game in charge back in December, earlier this week we held Swansea to a 1-1 draw and a couple of weeks ago West Brom admitted they were lucky to leave home park with a 1-0 win. We are slowly making Home Park a hard place to come again. Yes partly due to the pitch but also because Mariner has re-installed some passion and fight into a team that had all but lost any edge under Paul Sturrock and we are fighting for our survival. Our biggest problem this season has been scoring, as proved today. We hammered you in the second half but couldn't get the ball across the line for love nor money. And listening to your fans on the coach back, they were moaning about your fowards, put yourselves in our shoes for a minute. Perhaps someone else who was at the game today can tell mne something good that Fallon did, because if he had any useful input into the game at some point, I must have blinked and missed it. Fans should relate to current form the fact that someone lost 6 in a row 3 months ago is inmaterial . Recently Leicester lost 1-0 to both Barnsley and Swansea and Plymouth beat Barnsley and drew with Swansea . Add in the pitch factor and a 1-0 Plymouth win indicated which it would have been but for the ridiculous own goal
Plymouth Pete Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 Agree with the thoughts about Gallagher, the only Foxes player I am qualified to speak about. IMO He is not a wide man and definetely not a striker, attacking midfielder best describes his position, when he was with us he showed he certainly had a football brain but did not like to get down and get dirty.
Guest Gist Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 dont u just love it when u hear ,,,, we should have beat them,, we are much better than them ,,,, we are only better than them if we show it on the pitch, i saw nothing at bristol or argyle to suggest we were better and lets face it plymouth need the points and they were up for it , why is it though leicester were in full control of both games in the first half and yet had to defend an onslaught in the 2nd halfs, keep the faith , were not losing even when playing bad . Strongly agree with this! For those people who haven't travelled and can't wait to jump on here and slate the team for being 6th with 2 games in hand after only just returning to this division, it's probably best you don't comment at all. We looked quite steady today and yes got lucky at times but still a good point against a team at home fighting for their survival. We just never looked like creating enough chances to win the game, we need to find some way of being more ruthless. Considering Fryatt is out for a few months and the pitch was an absoulte state (I appreciate that can't be to blame fully) but the conditions weren't ideal. Still another point to add to a good season so far, just a shame majority of our fans expect too much and unfortunately it's that negativity that could prove the difference between us pushing on even further this season.
marbelladave Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 Strongly agree with this!For those people who haven't travelled and can't wait to jump on here and slate the team for being 6th with 2 games in hand after only just returning to this division, it's probably best you don't comment at all. We looked quite steady today and yes got lucky at times but still a good point against a team at home fighting for their survival. We just never looked like creating enough chances to win the game, we need to find some way of being more ruthless. Considering Fryatt is out for a few months and the pitch was an absoulte state (I appreciate that can't be to blame fully) but the conditions weren't ideal. Still another point to add to a good season so far, just a shame majority of our fans expect too much and unfortunately it's that negativity that could prove the difference between us pushing on even further this season. This is fair enough, we were not awful by any means and we worked hard on a draining pitch. However coming into the game, we were in a playoff spot, Plymouth fighting relegation, it was reasonable to think we could win this. As it turned out we were a bit toothless and Plymouth fought hard and I have no issues with the effort we put in and, in the end, I thought a draw a reasonable result. I also consider it perfectly reasonable to look at our performance and see where improvements can be made, I genuinely believe that we have not yet come fully to terms with our new system and when we do, we will be a far more effective unit.
Guest Gist Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 This is fair enough, we were not awful by any means and we worked hard on a draining pitch.However coming into the game, we were in a playoff spot, Plymouth fighting relegation, it was reasonable to think we could win this. As it turned out we were a bit toothless and Plymouth fought hard and I have no issues with the effort we put in and, in the end, I thought a draw a reasonable result. I also consider it perfectly reasonable to look at our performance and see where improvements can be made, I genuinely believe that we have not yet come fully to terms with our new system and when we do, we will be a far more effective unit. I agree. I just think in this league it's irrelivant what position you're in it's so unpredictable and as it's said alot, anyone really can beat anyone. Just because it's lowly Plymouth and we are in the play off places doesn't mean we are guarenteed the points and we simply weren't good enough today, really Plymouth deserved to win. Under the circumstances I and I'm sure many others would consider it a good point. I agree we weren't toothless enough and thats something we need to work on because we can't keep relying on our defence to keep winning us games, and I think that's where players like Brown get alot of unfair stick, yes his distribution is poor but it isn't often he misses a header or doesn't win a tackle, we just don't score enough to make up for it.
marbelladave Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 I agree. I just think in this league it's irrelivant what position you're in it's so unpredictable and as it's said alot, anyone really can beat anyone. Just because it's lowly Plymouth and we are in the play off places doesn't mean we are guarenteed the points and we simply weren't good enough today, really Plymouth deserved to win. Under the circumstances I and I'm sure many others would consider it a good point. I agree we weren't toothless enough and thats something we need to work on because we can't keep relying on our defence to keep winning us games, and I think that's where players like Brown get alot of unfair stick, yes his distribution is poor but it isn't often he misses a header or doesn't win a tackle, we just don't score enough to make up for it. Actually I thought our back 4 was rather less solid than usual, Morrison was targeted by all the Plymouth wide men and did well to stand his ground although he was well beaten on a number of occasions. Brown was not at his best by a long way and in the second half, under pressure his distribution was woeful. Only Berner, stood out for me, though he did go missing for the goal. Two points about our lack of goals, firstly we are not creative enough in midfield, for nearly an hour we had loads of possession in forward areas yet created just 2 opportunities, a decent chance for Dyer and a half chance for Waghorn. Secondly we also need more bite and presence in the box, I would play N'Guessan down the middle with Waghorn joining from the left. We really do need to be more positive!
Guest Gist Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 Actually I thought our back 4 was rather less solid than usual, Morrison was targeted by all the Plymouth wide men and did well to stand his ground although he was well beaten on a number of occasions. Brown was not at his best by a long way and in the second half, under pressure his distribution was woeful. Only Berner, stood out for me, though he did go missing for the goal.Two points about our lack of goals, firstly we are not creative enough in midfield, for nearly an hour we had loads of possession in forward areas yet created just 2 opportunities, a decent chance for Dyer and a half chance for Waghorn. Secondly we also need more bite and presence in the box, I would play N'Guessan down the middle with Waghorn joining from the left. We really do need to be more positive! I disagree with you saying less solid, or maybe it's because Plymouth didn't punish us a much as maybe other teams would. Their left winger was hard work for Morrison at times though, but sayin that, god help us if that was Neilson. Our midfield are tidy but not enough about them that creates, Wellens and King can pick up the ball and do simple passes that keep us in possesion and hold players off well but there isn't enough like you say, people getting in the box. At no point do we have a player on the edge of the box that the ball will fall to and do I think we can score, it always has to go wide. Which when your lacking in width from Gallagher and no bodies in the box you can't expect to score really. I wish we got Dyer on the ball more, he's got the pace to run at people, something the other players don't seem to do for some reason. Another point is Waghorn being offside, that ball over the top wasn't working yesterday, either a bad ball or he was off and that was painful to keep watching happen every five mins!
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 This was a game we should have lost, and must really consider ourselves extremely lucky, that Pylmouth handed us a point.
lildave3 Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 4) We know Gallagher from his loan spell last season, and although his goals kept us up, a lot of the time he did not appear interested which I put down to his only being a loan player. However he appeared to be uninterested for you, certainly did not want to dig in and fight, is this always his attitude with you? I think that's just his general way. He's not someone who likes the scrappy game I don't think.
Head Honcho Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 Should've finished them off in the first half and lucky to get a point in the end.........simples!
deep blue Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 dont u just love it when u hear ,,,, we should have beat them,, we are much better than them ,,,, we are only better than them if we show it on the pitch, i saw nothing at bristol or argyle to suggest we were better and lets face it plymouth need the points and they were up for it , why is it though leicester were in full control of both games in the first half and yet had to defend an onslaught in the 2nd halfs, keep the faith , were not losing even when playing bad . The fact that we do seem to outplay many teams in the first half raises fans' expectations. But we don't capitalise on our chances, and often fade and struggle in the second half, so we're bound to get frustrated. There are so many "if onlys" about the points we could have won with more clinical finishing. The draw at Bristol C was just as disappointing, yet they've just beaten W Brom, so maybe it wasn't such a bad point for us to win after all (and ditto for yesterday).
Bert Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 Don't think anyone deserved to win really. I'm pleased with a draw - We've had a fairly tough run of games and after Tuesday we'll have done a lot of travelling in 7 days. Plymouth were never going to be easy to beat, they're fighting for their lives remember, just because they're 23rd doesn't mean we have a given right to win. It'd have been nice to get the 3 points, but we don't live in a perfect world. In the past few years, we've failed to even score past Plymouth, let alone get a point, so we should be grateful for what we've got, because if it were not for Chris Weale at the end, it would have been 0 points.
Rich Fox Posted 21 February 2010 Posted 21 February 2010 dont u just love it when u hear ,,,, we should have beat them,, we are much better than them ,,,, we are only better than them if we show it on the pitch, i saw nothing at bristol or argyle to suggest we were better and lets face it plymouth need the points and they were up for it , why is it though leicester were in full control of both games in the first half and yet had to defend an onslaught in the 2nd halfs, keep the faith , were not losing even when playing bad . Were 6th in the league they are 3rd from bottom of course were better than them but we are not going to win every game and have no right to. I didnt go to this but you can bet Plymouth deserved there point, but what good a point is to them im not sure because they need wins thats why these games are always harder than playing a mid table side but its a decent result for Leicester so we should be positive, give plymouth credit and move on.
Fox92 Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 You negative ****. When we're going to Wembley in May, Don't bother coming if we're not good enough. How are we not good enough, The league does not lie. Look how many goals we've conceded. We have a solid defence. As long as you aren't conceding goals, It doesn't really matter if your scoring flurries of goals all season or one goal. We've infact played 3 games in a week. S****horpe, Bristol, and Plymouth. 3 games in 7 days. I could be payed £5, or £50000 a week, I'd still be knackered playing on a cowfield and playing 3 games in 7 days. I'd love to see you have ago at it. (Actually, Nah) Fool. Sometimes, I am negative. But, I think you are getting a little bit over excited with the Wembley thing. I know the league table doesn't lie, and it's great that we have only conceded 31 goals but having only scored 38 goals is not very good either (even if you talked about the conceding thing). I didn't say we wasn't good enough either. And, I wouldn't be having a go at that because I am not getting paid thousands a week to do it. 1) Learn to spell correctly2) People who say this only do so because it is the lowest and cheapest criticism that can be labelled at a professional footballer. The fact is in whatever job you do, you have not had to a) train and b) run 7 or more miles and burn endless calories against S****horpe, travel down to Bristol to do the same on the Tuesday, then travel again to do it for a third time in a week on heavy pitches. Obviously (notice the spelling buckteeth) Being paid more somehow develops an immunity to fatigue within your body does it? I am so sorry, I didn't realise that I have to spell every word correctly as well. But, if we are talking about grammer and everything, try using paragraphs, that should make your point more clearer.
Raj Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 No team has any god given right to beat another,but there again we are the massive LCFC and should atleast be in the Premiership!!! At this crucial time of the season im actually proud that we are in the play off run in and not down the other end where more so called established Cchip teams have found themselves. To think in the last 4-5 seasons where we've found ourselves and now we are in the top 6 speaks volumes about NP his staff and players(Yes thats right NP...the one some of you wanted out after our recent dodgy spell!!!) If we make the play off that would be great...if we finish just outside it fair enough...its would still (In my eyes) been a positive season and bodes well for next season. Just hope there will be no knee jerk reactions regarding the results to the next 2 games albeit win,lose or draws...
harpendenfox Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 No team has any god given right to beat another,but there again we are the massive LCFC and should atleast be in the Premiership!!!At this crucial time of the season im actually proud that we are in the play off run in and not down the other end where more so called established Cchip teams have found themselves. To think in the last 4-5 seasons where we've found ourselves and now we are in the top 6 speaks volumes about NP his staff and players(Yes thats right NP...the one some of you wanted out after our recent dodgy spell!!!) If we make the play off that would be great...if we finish just outside it fair enough...its would still (In my eyes) been a positive season and bodes well for next season. Just hope there will be no knee jerk reactions regarding the results to the next 2 games albeit win,lose or draws... Good point. It is a disgrace that Mr Hoos isn't urgently discussing the terms of a breakaway Europa League with his counterparts at Man U, Chelsea, AC Milan, Bayern, Real, Barca and Lyon. It's time Europe's super eight dispensed with all the other minor league dross. The only team out of that lot to have beaten us in the last FIVE YEARS is Chelsea, and then they were lucky. We're by far the greatest team the world, sorry near universe has ever seen
Sods Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 Quality weekend! Game was alright, pitch was really shit and unpredictable. Solid point thanks to Weale and the back 4.
maddog Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 No team has any god given right to beat another,but there again we are the massive LCFC and should atleast be in the Premiership!!!At this crucial time of the season im actually proud that we are in the play off run in and not down the other end where more so called established Cchip teams have found themselves. To think in the last 4-5 seasons where we've found ourselves and now we are in the top 6 speaks volumes about NP his staff and players(Yes thats right NP...the one some of you wanted out after our recent dodgy spell!!!) If we make the play off that would be great...if we finish just outside it fair enough...its would still (In my eyes) been a positive season and bodes well for next season. Just hope there will be no knee jerk reactions regarding the results to the next 2 games albeit win,lose or draws... Yes people need to remember we in our last 4 seasons in the Championship we didn't make the top six for an entire season, not even for 1 game. This season we have virtually been there all season. It's no longer early days now and the pessimistic fans can no longer say theres a long way to go because we are over two thirds into the season, a lot of the teams only have 13 games left, nearly into their final quarter of the season, it's the business end now. Before you know it these 15 games will be over, look how fast the first 31 seem to have gone, if we remain solid and focussed the possibility of a playoff final against Forest or a trip to the City Ground in the play off semi final leaves me drooling.
CosbehFox Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 Some fella in the pub mentioned this yesterday. Pearson's a decent fella. Appreciates the support, just like he said cheers to me after Millwall last season.
Floating Fox Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 Such a sick day out. Drinking from 10am-1am :laugh: We were pretty awfull to be honest and were lucky to get a point but showed a lot more class than plymouth..... I know Howard can't score but why do we always bring Yann on when were playing hoofball? Defenders get scared when big Steve comes on! Not a reason to panic. Anyone who has actually got half a brain cell knows leaving there with a point is a good result. Loved the reception you gave the forces. Thank you all Got threatened in Reflex for singing Leicester songs with Sods. Genius.
Bert Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 Some fella in the pub mentioned this yesterday.Pearson's a decent fella. Appreciates the support, just like he said cheers to me after Millwall last season. That's me in the blue hat.
Cobbo Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 That's me in the blue hat. I thought it was when looking at it first off. I clearly recognise the back of your head a bit too well. Apologies Chloe. Great of Pearson is that.
Sods Posted 22 February 2010 Posted 22 February 2010 Got threatened in Reflex for singing Leicester songs with Sods. Genius. Quality weekend fella, can't remember much of it but was class!
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