Leicester City Away Fans

[AoWW]

I'm still giggling over Nick being called 'kid'!!! :eek:

[Guest Mee-9]

I had a great day yesterday, despite the result. I sat in Row F, which was really near the front and yes we did get a few idiots, but the crowd were great yesterday.

Some bloke was calling Oakley a willy puller which is a tad extreme, and another telling the players to F off at the final whistle. These both looked like complete tits. As I said in my Post match post. Another bloke made me laugh, Shouting "IM NOT A FKING TERRORIST AM I?" when he got searched.

But if you take a group of 2000 odd people, your going to get at least a few knobheads in it.

I wouldn't be put off away games though mate, don't let your matchday experience be thrashed by a few rowdy fans.

[Daggers]

It's more than just a coincidence that seating and a drop in hooliganism happened at the same time.

One fact does not lead to the other - as you fully know, the period where hooliganism dropped is linked directly to the rave movement and lots of the 'lads' getting off their tits on E-fuelled love and dance.

[Guest]

Tragic as it was, it happened at a time when the authorities were looking for a way of controlling football fans, and one of the easiest is by using all seater stadia (apparently). I am pretty certain that the Taylor Report referred to this, I do remember reading something along those lines at the time.

Although the authorities will never admit it, seating is a great tool in idenitifying offenders, each person has their own space and struggles to move around. That is the main reason I don't thing we will see standing back in the top 2 divisions any time soon.

They did, and I was right.

64. Apart from comfort and safety, seating has distinct advantages in achieving crowd control. It is

possible to have disturbances in a seated area and they have occurred, but with the assistance of CCTV the

police can immediately zoom in with a camera and pinpoint the seats occupied by the trouble-makers as well

as the trouble-makers themselves. Moreover, if numbered tickets are issued to named purchasers, the police

have a further aid to identifying miscreants.

[unreachable]

Your link doesn't work.

It doesn't alter the fact only stewards have the authority to act on breaches of ground regulations, and the police can step in if a criminal offence takes place. A sober fan, standing and committing no criminal offence cannot be dealt with by the police. I don't know why you refuse to accept this. You are making yourself look silly now.

You come across as someone with a bigger chip on his shoulder than than Mr McCain himself. You want to sit at games, fine. But the fact that you can't even accept people standing AND NOT INTERFERING WITH YOUR ENJOYMENT OF THE GAME makes my stand against smokers and cyclists look laid back. You don't even have the arguments to back you up, just twisted misinformation.

I refer you to my post #098.

"I did the same at your age. I am not arguing against designated seating and standing areas but until they exist in law then my point remains that those who sit should have their rights respected. "

There's no need to use capital letters I support your campaign for designated standing and seating areas. We all know then what to expect.

My reference to The Taylor Report was to give some historical context and the difficulties which your campaign must be facing.

[Nick]

I'm still giggling over Nick being called 'kid'!!! :eek:

*Nick went to the pub with other 'kids' from the boxing club to watch the Haye fight*

[Daggers]

I'm still giggling over Nick being called 'kid'!!! :eek:

If you'd seen him spilling all his Thai food down his front yesterday then you'd appreciate it

[Webbo]

One fact does not lead to the other - as you fully know, the period where hooliganism dropped is linked directly to the rave movement and lots of the 'lads' getting off their tits on E-fuelled love and dance.

That was a theory in a Danny Dyer film I once saw. There might be something in that I don't know but you can't say that seating has had no impact at all.

[Guest]

I refer you to my post #098.

"I did the same at your age. I am not arguing against designated seating and standing areas but until they exist in law then my point remains that those who sit should have their rights respected. "

There's no need to use capital letters I support your campaign for designated standing and seating areas. We all know then what to expect.

My reference to The Taylor Report was to give some historical context and the difficulties which your campaign must be facing.

I'm sorry but how does

Standing was relevant to the deaths caused that day - that's good enough for me.

help when the South Yorkshire police has accepted it's responsibility for the Hillsborough disaster. Something you haven't acknowledged in any of your posts.

And yes, you used to stand and now you don't. Relevant because?

The Taylor Report was the 8th report into football safety and problems, the first was written almost 70 years earlier. Lord Taylor refers to a number of problems and issues affecting football in the late 80s and early 90s. I would refer you to post #179 and ask you to tell me what has changed for the better. As far as I can see, none of the problems he raised 20 years ago have been addressed.

[unreachable]

I'm sorry but how does

help when the South Yorkshire police has accepted it's responsibility for the Hillsborough disaster. Something you haven't acknowledged in any of your posts.

And yes, you used to stand and now you don't. Relevant because?

The Taylor Report was the 8th report into football safety and problems, the first was written almost 70 years earlier. Lord Taylor refers to a number of problems and issues affecting football in the late 80s and early 90s. I would refer you to post #179 and ask you to tell me what has changed for the better. As far as I can see, none of the problems he raised 20 years ago have been addressed.

I used to stand through the 70's - that was simply a friendly comment to that poster - meaning that one's tastes change as you get older.

There is a difference between saying that standing was relevant to the Police accepting responsibility. There are degrees of importance of factors and I accept that standing was not necessarily the most important factor but it was still a relevant factor. John Motson, in his book, said that the centre areas were jammed with fans and the outer wings of the terrace had gaps. If people were sitting down it may have meant that there would have been less people in the central area where the fatalities occurred.

I accept that this crusade is a matter close to your heart. Good luck in your campaign for designated standing areas. I support it I really really do.

[LCFC-ARAB]

I refer you to my post #098.

"I did the same at your age. I am not arguing against designated seating and standing areas but until they exist in law then my point remains that those who sit should have their rights respected. "

There's no need to use capital letters I support your campaign for designated standing and seating areas. We all know then what to expect.

My reference to The Taylor Report was to give some historical context and the difficulties which your campaign must be facing.

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[MC Prussian]

A post that started out in sensible fashion has developed in some sort of farce, really.

And all of this because we lost 3-0 to West Brom, lost for the fourth time in a row (the first time in four years) and some Leicester fans having a go at each other at the Hawthorns.

**** me, but I don't want to have your issues. This is silly.

Why all this needless frustration? Yes, I don't like losing. Especially not four games on a trot. But what can you do?

We're in such a wonderful position and should be proud of what the players have achieved so far. Maybe the last few games act as some sort of payback for the amount of times we had the luck on our side.

Have a little bit more respect for each other and let common sense rule.

Dissecting the SUSD issue is not the point here.

It's just sheer frustration aimed at supporters of the same club.

Stop it.

And start talking about more interesting stuff.

Like how we can get out of this slump or at least how we can help the team get back to winning ways.

[Daggers]

That was a theory in a Danny Dyer film I once saw. There might be something in that I don't know but you can't say that seating has had no impact at all.

The majority of violence never happened in a stadium.

The introduction of seating has not stopped violence outside or inside the ground - but simply provided a bank of potential missiles for those seeking to create mayhem.

There is only one correlation I can see and that is the link between all-seater and library atmosphere.

[lcfc_jme]

The Leicester City fans I go to away games with are absolutely brilliant. The Leicester City fans who rolled up to Barnsley away and want to go to Cov away every season are not.

And stewards, for the most part, get everything they fcking deserve. A steward telling a fan they are going to "knock them out" is not acceptable and is definitely the kind of thing that can lead to violent scenes.

[BoneDog]

It's all about making noise for me when I go football. Noise, noise and more pissin noise for a couple hours. No need to be a twat to other folk though (unless you're at Leeds then it's no holds barred. I nutted a copper there once, but she got me in an arm bar and knocked 2 of me teeth out so I wish I didn't bother).

I admit there are a few pricks around but it's the same wherever you go and you just have to give 'em a clip round the ear and threaten to bite their face off or ignore them. Probably best to ignore them

It is a shame to see Leicester fans fighting and arguing with eachother and it needs sorting out somehow. The only sensible option has to be having a seperate standing or singing area, whatever you'd call it.

One of my first memories of going to Filbert Street in the very early 90's was of some Leicester fans fighting eachother at the back of Pen 2 or 3 because of some racist comments so it has been going on for way too long. Not sure it can even be stopped cos it seems a fact of life that some people just love fighting whoever it may be with.

(all you folk who love being aggressive randomly should really focus and get down the boxing or mma club. You can make money and earn real respect from punching people in the head in the right environment )

[unreachable]

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Please sign then

I have just done so. Thanks for letting me know the website address.

[purpleronnie]

I remember going to old trafford in 1993 and some geezer there arguing with everyone for not singing. I guess things haven't changed that much. Unfortunately now we have all seater stadiums which will always produce the possibility of arguements.

[Guest]

I used to stand through the 70's - that was simply a friendly comment to that poster - meaning that one's tastes change as you get older.

There is a difference between saying that standing was relevant to the Police accepting responsibility. There are degrees of importance of factors and I accept that standing was not necessarily the most important factor but it was still a relevant factor. John Motson, in his book, said that the centre areas were jammed with fans and the outer wings of the terrace had gaps. If people were sitting down it may have meant that there would have been less people in the central area where the fatalities occurred.

I accept that this crusade is a matter close to your heart. Good luck in your campaign for designated standing areas. I support it I really really do.

Interesting that you mentioning seating is far safer when there was a discussion on this forum only today reminiscing about SheffYoo this season, where the stewards wouldn't open up the entire stand for away fans, causing congestion and a potential health and safety issue. Even Taylor LJ accepted that seating isn't the panacea to football's ills. He just thought it was the easiest route to take, even though much of his reasoning also supported safe standing. As I said earlier, the powers that be thought that seating would prevent trouble. Going by this thread, it's just gone on to cause even more!!

[unreachable]

Interesting that you mentioning seating is far safer when there was a discussion on this forum only today reminiscing about SheffYoo this season, where the stewards wouldn't open up the entire stand for away fans, causing congestion and a potential health and safety issue. Even Taylor LJ accepted that seating isn't the panacea to football's ills. He just thought it was the easiest route to take, even though much of his reasoning also supported safe standing. As I said earlier, the powers that be thought that seating would prevent trouble. Going by this thread, it's just gone on to cause even more!!

I'm pleased we haven't knocked each other out! My toothache today isn't helping my mood! Seriously though John Motson's account in his book is quite emotive. Even Filbert Street was quite dangerous when we used to get 42,000 - the exits there were very restricted when there was a full ground. Health and Safety didn't exist then.

[AoWW]

If you'd seen him spilling all his Thai food down his front yesterday then you'd appreciate it

OAPs spill their food too, though.

[Guest]

I'm pleased we haven't knocked each other out! My toothache today isn't helping my mood!

I feel your pain; despite having my tooth fixed, it's started hurting leading me to think "root canal surgery".

[unreachable]

I feel your pain; despite having my tooth fixed, it's started hurting leading me to think "root canal surgery".

Is there a thread yet for dental complaints?

I really must sign out - soon

[Guest]

Is there a thread yet for dental complaints?

I really must sign out - soon

"What grinds your teeth, sorry, gears".

[SamL]

I remember going to old trafford in 1993 and some geezer there arguing with everyone for not singing. I guess things haven't changed that much. Unfortunately now we have all seater stadiums which will always produce the possibility of arguements.

In yesterday's example, it was the other way round. The bloke was having a pop at me for making 'too much noise'.

[purpleronnie]

In yesterday's example, it was the other way round. The bloke was having a pop at me for making 'too much noise'.

I guess things have changed then.