foss1884 Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 I have also contacted Ian Stringer so that he can give over some air time to promote the Fosse Boys on a programme in the near future. Hopefully combined with a possible Leicester Mercury article this will apply some sort of delicate pressure on the football club to negotiate. I want this to succeed and some constructive media publicity may just be the secret ingredient. Leicester City are very lucky to have supporters so willing to challenge the so-called expected and accepted norms at football today to do something colourful and unique in their support. Whilst i agree, it may not be to everyones taste, it is a show of much-needed vocal support.
davieG Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 LCFC ARAB will answer that but i believe SK1, at the back obviously so not to disturb the bovril drinkers Is this sort of reference really necessary it does you no good and makes you come across like you have an over inflated opinion of yourselves thinking you're somehow 'better' than other fans. Many of those 'bovril drinkers' where doing what you're trying to do before your were born probably and have been supporting the club for decades. And no I'm not a Bovril drinker just a fan who recognises that everyone has as much right to watch the game in the style of their choice.
leftsideoverhere Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Not convinced - my friend who sat up near you said you guys were taking the piss and 'Shhh'ing fans who asked you to sit down or quiten down. I think your friend is a little confused. I didn't see or hear any fans asking Fosse Boys folks to sit down or quieten down. Come to that, I didn't even see stewards asking them to either. The stewards did, before the game, ask for the flags which had been draped over seats to be removed because the seats were likely to be occupied. This was complied with good naturedly, and indeed people did come and sit in those seats. The flags were instead waved a few times above the heads of the Fosse Boys group. I saw many fans around us looking at us, some in a bemused way I guess, others being positive. People in the couple of rows behind us, including in the sponsors boxes, seemed to enjoy the spectacle. A few times, when we rolled out the more traditional Leicester songs, people around us joined in a bit. The "Shhh!" thing started in the second half, when the Fosse Boys were all sat down quietly, and it was directed ironically at fans who were making (small amounts of) noise, because of the reported view of the club officials that we'd been too noisy in the first half. The Shh!-ing only began in the second half and by then the Fosse Boys were sitting quietly so your friend must be mistaken.
foss1884 Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 How are you getting in touch with Stringer? He has an email address through BBC Radio Leicester.
Narborough_fox Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 foss1884, what a fantastic effort. I know it's been said before but people like you are what Fosse boys need to keep going and striving off. By the way you sounded fantastic when i was in the megastore!
Stand UP... Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 I have also contacted Ian Stringer so that he can give over some air time to promote the Fosse Boys on a programme in the near future. Hopefully combined with a possible Leicester Mercury article this will apply some sort of delicate pressure on the football club to negotiate. I want this to succeed and some constructive media publicity may just be the secret ingredient. Leicester City are very lucky to have supporters so willing to challenge the so-called expected and accepted norms at football today to do something colourful and unique in their support. Whilst i agree, it may not be to everyones taste, it is a show of much-needed vocal support. well done mate, after my reply i also asked him to get behind the fosse boys and the cause on there monday night phone in etc
Houdini Logic Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Possibly people have better things to do with a Saturday evening? For what it's worth, I'd say that democracy doesn't necessarily mean that the majority of fans at a football match get to tell the minority how to behave while they're watching the game. If this notional majority of yours voted in favour of singing and jumping up and down, would it mean that people who preferred to sit quietly would be thrown out the ground? Arrested? Insulted? Why should it? Conversely, if the majority choose to support their team in a restrained fashion, why should they then try to impose that style of support on everyone inside the ground. It's a big enough stadium that it can accommodate groups of fans doing their own thing without interfering with one another's enjoyment of the game. What you're calling democracy sounds more like a dictatorship to me, albeit a dictatorship of a majority. You say 'the majority or yours' - making the same association as Stand Up because I asked a question. Clearly if you question anything to do with the Fosse Boys you're a bovril drinker who sits all game with his ipod in. Dictatorship of the majority - that pretty much sums up a democracy to be honest I agree with the your point about it being a big enough stadium and I think you should work with the club so you can do your own thing rather than pissing people off
haraven Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Most of your post is talking about the integrity of the group, which isn't actually anything to do with what I'm talking about. Anyway - how can you say democracy won't solve this and isn't anything to do with this debate?! That's insane. If 20,000 (THIS IS A HYPHOTHECTICAL NUMBER) want to watch the football without the Fosse Boys singing and standing for 90 minutes then surely they should be allowed to? Regardless of whether you and I think this is right or wrong surely it is their right? My point was to shed light on the fact that there are several types of democracies, and theories around democracies - and the one thing most of the home fans at a Walker's match got in common is the support for Leicester City. How can you put out a "democratic" vote on how the majority will want to support the team? And if 11 000 of the 20 000 does not like the standing and singing, while the 9 000 rest think it is ok to get that atmosphere without participating themselves, how are we going to settle that? There will be several ways of showing this support. The Fosse Boys are doing more or less the same as the old Kop on Filbert Street was, so there is nothing "new" in that except that they want to bring a bit more "European" stadium feel to their support. So if you're way of enjoying LCFC is to sit quietly and watch the game, I am quite sure 60% of the seated areas will give you that chance for the foreseeable future, but I don't think you will be botheres too much of 10-40% of the other seats are for, let's say, more vocal fans. Clubs with vocal supporters are the ones people really notice, and it is a great way of being the 12th man - that is my personal opinion.
Houdini Logic Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Still a pretty good day all round. Nice to meet a few people off here from the first time, and I definitely felt part of something good today. Well done to Fosse Boy and LCFC Arab who have got together a fantastic group, and to begin with it went so well. Loved it standing on the edge next to Father Ted, and had no idea how much so called 'controversy' we were causing. I'm not exactly sure what happened, but second half I think we decided amongst ourselves to sit in silence as a sort of protest, and then we walked out on 80 mins. I was right on the edge, and had quite a few comments directed at me from some of the fans to my right. They were complaining we were too repetitive, and that we weren't singing 'Leicester songs'. A couple of others were almost outright angry that anyone was making an attempt to sing. A young lady to my right gave me quite a bit of verbals, too Well this Bovril drinker stayed and clapped his team who played fooking well today
Stand UP... Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Is this sort of reference really necessary it does you no good and makes you come across like you have an over inflated opinion of yourselves thinking you're somehow 'better' than other fans. Many of those 'bovril drinkers' where doing what you're trying to do before your were born probably and have been supporting the club for decades. And no I'm not a Bovril drinker just a fan who recognises that everyone has as much right to watch the game in the style of their choice. I agree Davie G, but those who do not sing or chant and generally just want so sit there have 3 stand to choose from. The Kop atmosphere from filbert street days is what (i believe) is what we are trying to acheive. Singing and jumping around for our team.
Corky Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 You lot sounded great in the first half, and I hope you can continue the group in the future.
Asha Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Well this Bovril drinker stayed and clapped his team who played fooking well today Oh don't worry, I stayed behind two hours to tell each player individually my favourite moment of theirs in a Leicester shirt. Pretty sure said bovril drinker didn't do that.
Finnegan Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Not that I expect anyone to pay attention to me but I do beg those of you involved to listen to some of the more mild-mannered criticisms or suggestions, though. I'm not suggesting for one moment you take the Andy Croydz of this world to heart but there are some intelligent posts floating around in here (not just by people with a post count in the thousands, either) and I really do believe your odds of success are a lot higher if you're diplomatic, run a bit of PR and try to keep people on side - even those that don't like or don't approve of what you're doing. Taking an aggressively defensive line won't empower your cause. I'm not saying be boring - but a little maturity and integrity will really help you carry this. It's alright saying that Ultras on the continent may not bow down to the pressures around them but the Ultra movement on the continent carries a lot more weight. Ultimately you're a minority (admittedly a growing one) group with only as much staying power as the club decree. Honestly, best of luck, just be careful how indignantly you react to hiccups such as today's second half.
leftsideoverhere Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 You say 'the majority or yours' - making the same association as Stand Up because I asked a question. Clearly if you question anything to do with the Fosse Boys you're a bovril drinker who sits all game with his ipod in. Dictatorship of the majority - that pretty much sums up a democracy to be honest I agree with the your point about it being a big enough stadium and I think you should work with the club so you can do your own thing rather than pissing people off I said the "notional majority of yours" because you invented the majority in your posting. I didn't necessarily assume you'd be part of it. I think you're getting a bit defensive. If you think democracy = dictatorship of the majority then you've got a very narrow view of democracy. If the majority at the ground were to vote that they didn't like wearing replica kits, would that mean that the minority who do like them would be forced to comply? Why? This isn't like, for example, smoking in the stadium, where choosing to smoke imposes - to a degree - negative effects on those around you, which they can't avoid unless they stop going to the games. With that kind of issue it makes sense for the majority decision to be imposed on everyone. But where the minority preference is a personal thing there's no reason or justification for the majority opinion to be forced on them. No-one is injured by the fact that there's a small group singing at one end of the ground.
Jay Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 LCFC ARAB will answer that but i believe SK1, at the back obviously so not to disturb the bovril drinkers Thats cool then, suites me already being in F1, SK1 or whatever they call it now SERIOUSLY looking forward to some atmosphere after enduring it for so long there. You do get some really annoying randoms turning up there though
Stand UP... Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Not that I expect anyone to pay attention to me but I do beg those of you involved to listen to some of the more mild-mannered criticisms or suggestions, though. I'm not suggesting for one moment you take the Andy Croydz of this world to heart but there are some intelligent posts floating around in here (not just by people with a post count in the thousands, either) and I really do believe your odds of success are a lot higher if you're diplomatic, run a bit of PR and try to keep people on side - even those that don't like or don't approve of what you're doing. Taking an aggressively defensive line won't empower your cause. I'm not saying be boring - but a little maturity and integrity will really help you carry this. It's alright saying that Ultras on the continent may not bow down to the pressures around them but the Ultra movement on the continent carries a lot more weight. Ultimately you're a minority (admittedly a growing one) group with only as much staying power as the club decree. Honestly, best of luck, just be careful how indignantly you react to hiccups such as today's second half. Which is exactly what we did today, 45 mins we sang our lungs out. second half different story due to rumours. We could of gone crazy and just stood and sung for rest of the 45 mins but we took the clubs attitude towards real supporters by the chin.
Houdini Logic Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 My point was to shed light on the fact that there are several types of democracies, and theories around democracies - and the one thing most of the home fans at a Walker's match got in common is the support for Leicester City. How can you put out a "democratic" vote on how the majority will want to support the team? And if 11 000 of the 20 000 does not like the standing and singing, while the 9 000 rest think it is ok to get that atmosphere without participating themselves, how are we going to settle that? There will be several ways of showing this support. The Fosse Boys are doing more or less the same as the old Kop on Filbert Street was, so there is nothing "new" in that except that they want to bring a bit more "European" stadium feel to their support. So if you're way of enjoying LCFC is to sit quietly and watch the game, I am quite sure 60% of the seated areas will give you that chance for the foreseeable future, but I don't think you will be botheres too much of 10-40% of the other seats are for, let's say, more vocal fans. Clubs with vocal supporters are the ones people really notice, and it is a great way of being the 12th man - that is my personal opinion. I think that's a very sensible way of looking at things and an intelligent reply. The big mistake I made on here is ever mentioning the word 'democracy' because with most people it has turned into a case of 'missing the point'. My reasoning behind the original question was because I thought this Fosse Boys thing would really work and catch on, but that's because I didn't put it into context outside of this forum. Today when I looked around a few times I noticed a small group of people going for it and the vast majority not really caring. I looked around to see the old men, the kids, the families, the bovril drinkers and thought - actually, maybe not everyone is going to be interested in this group. Despite what people are saying on here it is evident that there were some people who were pissed off with the Fosse Boys today and that's what made me think - if the majority of people didn't actually want this group then would they respect their wishes or would they take the 'holier than thou' attitude that what they're doing is the right way to support a team and everyone else can fook off. As a generally liberal person I do think that the club should listen to this group, even if they are in the minority - as you say it would be very easy for the club to arrange for the Fosse Boys to support in their own way without upsetting anyone
Houdini Logic Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Oh don't worry, I stayed behind two hours to tell each player individually my favourite moment of theirs in a Leicester shirt. Pretty sure said bovril drinker didn't do that. Of course I didn't - that's gay
Stand UP... Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Stringer wants a group of us for a phone in on friday breakfast phone in ha....i will pass this on to lcfc arab to arrange
foss1884 Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 Stringer wants a group of us for a phone in on friday breakfast phone in ha....i will pass this on to lcfc arab to arrange Wow! That sounds like real progress. Well done there! Great coup.
Stand UP... Posted 31 July 2010 Posted 31 July 2010 You guys got props' contacts innit brap all credit to lcfc arab and the fosse boys, am just working my ass off to help the cause
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