unreachable Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 He's still dreaming then!!! Growth of Internet postings re Abe so he's going somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillehamring Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 if you google レスターへ (leicester) all the top results are about yuki - most say it's agreed subject to international clearance and a medical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat Burger Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 So up for this it's unreal. I'm pretty sure he can also play in either full back position which is handy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsuo Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 How many competitive games has he played for Japan? He needs to have played in 75% over the last 2 years. In 2005, under ZICO, he was a bench warmer but played some useless games. ( Zico always rely on the european stars ) In 2006, under ivica Osim, he played all the japan games. ( he was Osim's best player when he was at JEF United ) Under Takeshi Okada, he was always in the team but not often in the starting lineup. Is it a problem for the work permit? He was used like a supersub. Some history: With Osim and Okada, 90% of the team are j-league players. ( where zico failed ) In the wc, 90% went from the j-league. The rules in the j-league are different than in europe. Only 3 foreigners ( mainly Brazil ) + 1 from AFC are allow for each club. The Japan football association ( jfa ) send the j-league players to the national team in order to improve their level and to improve the j-league. It's the first step. Japan had a good WC with the local players. And then, some guys are ready to go to europe. Players like Endo or Tulio Tanaka are good because international experience but stay in japan to improve the level of the j-league. ( no concrete offers for them at the moment ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unreachable Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 In 2005, under ZICO, he was a bench warmer but played some useless games. ( Zico always rely on the european stars ) In 2006, under ivica Osim, he played all the japan games. ( he was Osim's best player when he was at JEF United ) Under Takeshi Okada, he was always in the team but not often in the starting lineup. Is it a problem for the work permit? He was used like a supersub. Some history: With Osim and Okada, 90% of the team are j-league players. ( where zico failed ) In the wc, 90% went from the j-league. The rules in the j-league are different than in europe. Only 3 foreigners ( mainly Brazil ) + 1 from AFC are allow for each club. The Japan football association ( jfa ) send the j-league players to the national team in order to improve their level and to improve the j-league. It's the first step. Japan had a good WC with the local players. And then, some guys are ready to go to europe. Players like Endo or Tulio Tanaka are good because international experience but stay in japan to improve the level of the j-league. ( no concrete offers for them at the moment ) Thanks for the background but can you answer the question in my post which you have quoted? To obtain a work permit he needs to have played 75% of Japan's competitive games in the last 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 レスターへ actually looks like Leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamlcfc1 Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 Looks like this is happening great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unreachable Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 Upon further investigation the 75% of games played is not a set criteria. An appeal can be made to a Panel http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/FARegulations/NewsAndFeatures/2009/work_permits_players.aspx http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesandRegulations/~/media/Files/PDF/TheFA/Rules_Regs/Regn%20bulletin%20Aug%202010%20FINAL.ashx/Regn%20bulletin%20Aug%202010%20FINAL.pdf Panel hearings In the event that a player does not meet the set criteria, an appeal panel will be convened to consider the application. The panel will consist of representatives from the relevant football governing bodies together with three independent football experts. The panel's terms of reference are: (1) to consider whether the player is of the highest calibre and (2) to consider whether the player is able to contribute significantly to the development of the game at the top level in England. This obsession with detail must cease. Before the Internet I could live in relative ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherz Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 i was very impressed with the japansese football over last few wc`s they are very fast and small alot like micheal owen which makes them a handfull imo i just hope he can settle into the english game and become a muzzy izzet esq player for us.... carnt remember him from world cup tbh but all in all the japanese impressed me..... more of the same please sousa!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsuo Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 The japanese football association seems to focus on j-league players because they want to play football with the japan style ( team spirit and technical skills). A mix of euro players and j-league players the weakness is the physical strenght of the japanese players. But they are asian Average size of the japanese at the WC was 177-178cm. Some guys like honda, tulio, nakazawa are much taller. the strenghts are : speed, tireless, work hard for the team and not for himself, technical skills. FK is a speciality because the lack of aerial presence. each team have more or less 3 or 4 guys who can take FK perfectly like endo, honda, nakamura. As a fan of japanese soccer, i can tell you that a lot of japanese can play in europe, they can succeed. It depend if he can adapt to the life in europe and the language. it's a gamble.... for example, Inamoto failed because he never learned the language, he is shy.... He is still a good player and play in the j-league but he struggle to make an impact.... Same for Nakamura.... the league become stronger and youngster push them away of the starting line up. Back to the topic. For Abe, he can succeed but it all depend on him. Shy player but hard working. What else? i'm tired, i'm gonna sleep i'll reply tomorrow Hey sorry for my poor english but i'm a french speaker from belgium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_the_fox Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 Your input is appreciated mitsuo, at least your not saying Sousa out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamlcfc1 Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 [quoteHey sorry for my poor english but i'm a french speaker from belgium We can understand you fine mate thanks for the info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asherz Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 cannot stand sousa out people. as if thats gonna help! if we boot him out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salieri Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 Hey sorry for my poor english but i'm a french speaker from belgium Trust me, your English is better than a pretty large proportion of posters on here. Appreciate the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 In the wc, 90% went from the j-league. The rules in the j-league are different than in europe. Only 3 foreigners ( mainly Brazil ) + 1 from AFC are allow for each club. The Japan football association ( jfa ) send the j-league players to the national team in order to improve their level and to improve the j-league. It's the first step. Japan had a good WC with the local players. And then, some guys are ready to go to europe. Players like Endo or Tulio Tanaka are good because international experience but stay in japan to improve the level of the j-league. ( no concrete offers for them at the moment ) If only we implemented these rules in England. The national team would be a hell of a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 Sounds like a good potential signing this. If, as seems to be being said, he's something of a set-piece and FK specialist he can turn out to be a great addition as we are lacking in this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsuo Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 For people who are interested in the style of japan, some videos of the j-league. Goal 2008 Goal 2009 Some FK i know i'm off topic Some info about abe tomorrow i hope. Goodnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 Thanks for the background but can you answer the question in my post which you have quoted? To obtain a work permit he needs to have played 75% of Japan's competitive games in the last 2 years. IF we are genuinely in for this lad do you not think that Leicester's scouting network will have clocked from a very early stage whether or not he's likely to be granted a work permit? Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmund Posted 23 August 2010 Share Posted 23 August 2010 IF we are genuinely in for this lad do you not think that Leicester's scouting network will have clocked from a very early stage whether or not he's likely to be granted a work permit? Seriously? They didn't with Sani Kaita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unreachable Posted 24 August 2010 Share Posted 24 August 2010 IF we are genuinely in for this lad do you not think that Leicester's scouting network will have clocked from a very early stage whether or not he's likely to be granted a work permit? Seriously? As Finnegan says there was a problem with Sani Kaita's work permit. That's why I was pressing Mitsuo to let us know what recent games Yuki Abe had played. He hasn't answered this point although we have had a lot of background about Japanese football which is very illuminating but it would be nice to know if there were any potential work permit problems before we get too excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee(lcfc) Posted 24 August 2010 Share Posted 24 August 2010 i think we need a couple off decent defence, last season was the same we didnt look that strong at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simo86 Posted 24 August 2010 Share Posted 24 August 2010 i think we need a couple off decent defence, last season was the same we didnt look that strong at the back I thought defence was one of our strong points last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Callabinho Posted 24 August 2010 Share Posted 24 August 2010 Comparing Abe and Inamoto before his move to english football. Inamoto before his move to Arsenal completed 105 club gams and 14 international games. So far Abe has competed 326 Club games and 41 International games, As i understand a work permit can be received once the player has competed in 75% of their games excluding friendlies? (if not correct, correct me) I thought id compare the two players? whether it means anything i don't know, but seems to me he should be fine to work in this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finnegan Posted 24 August 2010 Share Posted 24 August 2010 They didn't with Sani Kaita It's obviously not a flawless system, I just mean that we're not really going to find anything by digging around Wikipedia for his amount of games played that Sousa and his scouts won't have already clocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitsuo Posted 24 August 2010 Share Posted 24 August 2010 Sorry, i'm at work He played 15 games in 2009 and 2010. japan national team played 31 games. i'm pretty sure he was on the squad of all of the 31 games. He was on the bench i think. I can't understand well the rules of the work permit. 75% the last 2 years.... on the pitch or on the team? He won AFC champions league, played in the WC, japan is 32 on the fifa ranking. I'll reply later when i come back to home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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