tomtom Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 The flair speaks sense. As soon as I knew sousa was coming in my heart sank. I mean no disrespect when I say this, but I personally don't think a foreign manager and Leicester City fit. Under pearson we were stable, and people knew what to expect. Now we, the fans don't even know what to expect. A foreign manager and leicester city don't fit ???? best bring back Peter Taylor then.
MPH Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 The flair speaks sense. As soon as I knew sousa was coming in my heart sank. I mean no disrespect when I say this, but I personally don't think a foreign manager and Leicester City fit. Under pearson we were stable, and people knew what to expect. Now we, the fans don't even know what to expect. How can you say it doesn't fit? When have we had a foreign manager before? It isn't the fact he is foreign but more to do with him having a completly different system and way of thinking. Sorry if people keep going back to o'neill but how many games did we go before he won a game? Think it was 12 or something.. that was due to installing a completly different mentality into the players. Beating leeds away was a good result. So he is ahead of o'neill in that respect... He was given 2 weeks of pre-season.. if anything blame milan that he dragged the take over on for so long.
Father Ted Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 King will start and score a hat trick in the first 10 minutes. Sticks up the V's to Sousa and then gets subbed and we'll draw 3-3. All the goals being Moreno's fault at centre-back.
Father Ted Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Ric Flair has hit the nail on the head with EVERYTHING that he has said.
hackneyfox Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 FFS Leicester and a foreign manager!!! NFP was always going to change the team around this season, who can even guess at what changes he was thinking of making. Morrison & Hobbs not working is not down to PdFS, it is down to a lack of experience. We played dull hoofball most of the time. PdFS is bringing in new players and new tactics, I hope it works. Some, it seems, don't.
Bert Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 If you read again 'MPH' you'll see that I cleared said 'personally' which would mean that it's my opinion. So that's how I can say it. I'm not saying sousa won't be successful here, though.
Ric Flair Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 FFS Leicester and a foreign manager!!! NFP was always going to change the team around this season, who can even guess at what changes he was thinking of making. Morrison & Hobbs not working is not down to PdFS, it is down to a lack of experience. We played dull hoofball most of the time. PdFS is bringing in new players and new tactics, I hope it works. Some, it seems, don't. Morrison and Hobbs worked perfectly well last season when partenered together (and before anyone starts with the Morrison played at right back bollocks, he joined Hobbs in the centre on a number of occasions and looked superb) they were shocking against Palace, but every player has their odd nightmare and yet Sousa isn't keen. Fair enough. Yet since the Palace game we have been equally as diabolical at defending against Burnley and at times against Reading. Moreno being at fault for the majority of it. Not fair enough. Morrison was excellent away at leeds as well. Andy King is our best central midfielder by a country mile. His attacking presence and ability to seldom lose the ball or give it away is invaluable. So let's drop him and play Matt Oakley, who hasn't scored in well over a year. Not fair enough. Not faira****ingnough by any stretch. DJ Campbell has been an absolute disgrace ever since Martin Allen left. Campbell wanted out straight the way, without even giving any of the new managers a chance to work with them. A lack of professionalism. So after 2 years on loan, our new manager decides to give him a fresh start. A brave move, but also a very risky move if it goes wrong. It has gone wrong, he still wanted out and Sousa pissed Fryatt off by dropping him for the tosspot. Fryatt's efforts for this club in the last 2 seasons cannot simply be overlooked by Sousa even if it was under a previous regime. If you do that then you're ignorant, arrogant and clueless. 3 ingredients to a manager that will fail at Leicester. Why hasn't Sousa made any reference to the Waghorn signing? I wonder if he has gone in a mardy because DJ has been sold and the fans hero from Pearson's tenure has been bought in to replace him? Was he a Sousa signing? Without question, he wasn't. This is a living nightmare under Sousa and the sooner someone up 'top' takes charge of the situation and rectifies it, we'll go without a league win. I expect after Cov, Cardiff and QPR that we'll be bottom of the league and the fans that are arguing with me will be jumping on the Sousa Out bandwagon. The man's a wet fart, he's not welcome.
hackneyfox Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Well Nigel tried playing the game and lost. As many have asked, if Sousa was to go, and I, at the moment, hope he doesn't, who would you replace him with?
tomtom Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Morrison and Hobbs worked perfectly well last season when partenered together (and before anyone starts with the Morrison played at right back bollocks, he joined Hobbs in the centre on a number of occasions and looked superb) they were shocking against Palace, but every player has their odd nightmare and yet Sousa isn't keen. Fair enough. Yet since the Palace game we have been equally as diabolical at defending against Burnley and at times against Reading. Moreno being at fault for the majority of it. Not fair enough. Morrison was excellent away at leeds as well. Andy King is our best central midfielder by a country mile. His attacking presence and ability to seldom lose the ball or give it away is invaluable. So let's drop him and play Matt Oakley, who hasn't scored in well over a year. Not fair enough. Not faira****ingnough by any stretch. DJ Campbell has been an absolute disgrace ever since Martin Allen left. Campbell wanted out straight the way, without even giving any of the new managers a chance to work with them. A lack of professionalism. So after 2 years on loan, our new manager decides to give him a fresh start. A brave move, but also a very risky move if it goes wrong. It has gone wrong, he still wanted out and Sousa pissed Fryatt off by dropping him for the tosspot. Fryatt's efforts for this club in the last 2 seasons cannot simply be overlooked by Sousa even if it was under a previous regime. If you do that then you're ignorant, arrogant and clueless. 3 ingredients to a manager that will fail at Leicester. Why hasn't Sousa made any reference to the Waghorn signing? I wonder if he has gone in a mardy because DJ has been sold and the fans hero from Pearson's tenure has been bought in to replace him? Was he a Sousa signing? Without question, he wasn't. This is a living nightmare under Sousa and the sooner someone up 'top' takes charge of the situation and rectifies it, we'll go without a league win. I expect after Cov, Cardiff and QPR that we'll be bottom of the league and the fans that are arguing with me will be jumping on the Sousa Out bandwagon. The man's a wet fart, he's not welcome. Who the F are you to say who's welcome at LCFC and who's not ??
Bert Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Who is this satnav guy? Everyone has a right to their own opinion garmin. Who is this satnav guy? Everyone has a right to their own opinion garmin.
Corky Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Who the F are you to say who's welcome at LCFC and who's not ?? It's his opinion and to be honest I agree with a lot of it.
sdb Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 hmmm, i think a boredom may have struck here...all a bit OTT my gut feeling with regards to PS and our club is not good. But that's it for now. We should have two wins under our belt this season with a bit of luck, there are signs of good stuff, and who's to say he wont soon realise King/Fryatt et al should be starting? No manager is gonna come in and play the XI we all want straight away (not that all of us would start the same 11 anyway). Like I say, i'm not optimistic but a positive mind frame for the next few weeks would help more than people who are blantatly gonna start booing 10 mins into our next home game when something goes wrong. Foxes never Quit! :trumpet:
Ric Flair Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Well Nigel tried playing the game and lost. As many have asked, if Sousa was to go, and I, at the moment, hope he doesn't, who would you replace him with? I'd be happy with Chris Powell to be given the role as caretaker for a few weeks so that we could find the right replacement. The issue is that with Mandaric and the thai guys, there's no track record of appointing quality managers time after time. But, make no mistake, Sousa staying will be detrimental to this club.
The Doctor Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 hmmm, i think a boredom may have struck here...all a bit OTT my gut feeling with regards to PS and our club is not good. But that's it for now. We should have two wins under our belt this season with a bit of luck, there are signs of good stuff, and who's to say he wont soon realise King/Fryatt et al should be starting? No manager is gonna come in and play the XI we all want straight away (not that all of us would start the same 11 anyway). Like I say, i'm not optimistic but a positive mind frame for the next few weeks would help more than people who are blantatly gonna start booing 10 mins into our next home game when something goes wrong. Foxes never Quit! :trumpet: *shudder*. Never say that - that and "Keep the Faith" are horrible sayings.
iBleedLeicesterColours Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Cov 2-0 Leicester. King with a brace. We should be too strong for you, on paper we are evenley matched. But we have been very good at home. Wakey Wakey mate, We are FAR superior. Better players, last season reflects this. (Dont give me bull about how you are above us, its a few games in). I really hate Cov. It actually really bugs me how they think they're actually good. They've been dogshit for years. We hovered above the bottom 3 for a couple of years, we went. Southampton did the same, they went. Wednesday did the same they went. Plymouth did the same, they went. Your turn is just around the corner. You've been lucky a few times. Going slightly off topic , reffering to previous comments, the Walkers isn't great, but definitely has a better atmosphere than the Ricoh. Cov fans shagged each other when they got a 2-2 draw. They weren't very good until they scored. Anyway back on topic, 2-0 city. Womanbeater King and Waghorn
RowlattsFox Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 People talk as though King and Fryatt have been out the side for months, King has been on the bench twice with one of them being a Carling Cup match. Ok so I agree he should have started against Reading but it's only one game, bit early to say that Sousa doesn't like him. Same with Fryatt, he was bench against Boro but if I look back to the threads leading up to the game I'm sure a lot of people were choosing Campbell ahead of him. Same again against Reading, we played well against Leeds so Fryatt was on the bench, again I didn't see too many people putting Fryatt in their teams. As for the signings, I believe Moreno was on our radar before Sousa, wasn't he set to join Hull before we came in for him? Meaning Pearson was interested. And I'm assuming Crncic would probably have still been looked at on the Slovenia trip if Pearson was still here. I don't think there is any guarantee that we'd be better off points-wise at this point if Pearson was still here, assuming we'd have this squad. I'm yet to be convinced by Sousa, I'll admit that but it is only 4 games and its way to early to be this negative. Negativity spreads quickly amongst City fans and the one thing we don't want at this time is a negative atmosphere at matches. I can't believe some people want us to lose on Saturday, just so they can be proved right.
montyw93 Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 I have to admit, when Sousa came in I was excited it was something different, but then with the signings he bought in Moreno, who plays at CB and even looking at him you can tell he's not, If your going to play him play him in his position, I mean to be honest I don't think Sousa bought Abe or Waghorn they were done by the board and he has to do something about this, because if we loose to Coventry then the crowd at the Walkers stadium will go down and people are going to turn on Mr. Sousa!!!!!! I'm going for 1-1 on sat and if we do draw then its a great point if we win its an enormous win and if we loose then its just dreadful!!!!! BLUE ARMY BLUE ARMY
Maybes Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Some of the shite thats been spouting in here is ridiculous. 4 games enough said.
Fox92 Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 Coventry 1-2 Leicester (and its an early kick off!) _____________________________________ DJ Campbell has now left the club and I felt that he was the distraction (or interuption) of somesort, although I was willing to give him a second chance. With that in place, we'll look happy a bit more and then steal 3 points from our close friends from Coventry Looking forward to the M69 derby!
Guest ttfn Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 I really want to be up for this game as it's Cov and I hate them more than I hate Peter Taylor and Dennis Wise combined, but I just feel deflated. Sousa scares me, I hope he has learned from the glaring mistakes he's made in his tenure so far and that the likes of King, Fryatt and Morrison are bought in for under performers like Oakley, Moreno and Howard. I rate Big Steve, but he is prone to 2 poor performances every 5 matches he plays and at 34 and becoming less and less mobile, we cannot afford that. Waghorn is briefly raised my spirits, but as i've not heard a single word out of Sousa regarding Waghorn, it makes me think he's not too chuffed he's signed and is more upset that his hero DJ has left us. It breaks my heart to think of a heavy defeat against Cov, i'd be in bits, but if it get's Sousa the tin tac then i'd take the hit for our long term future. 6-0 to Cov please. I may never feel the need to post on here again, because Ric Flair has just summed up my thoughts on the current situation at the club exactly. People say 'it's only four games', 'let's have some stability etc', 'Rome wasn't built in a day'. Stability is only good if you're moving forward. In reality all that has happened is we have replaced a manager with an effective style of football with one with an ineffective style of football. We have made our worst start for 16 (?) years. This isn't a minor problem. This is a major, major problem. Only once under Pearson did we have a blip like this, and it certainly wasn't in his first four games. And the worst part is, it's not even the results that are bothering me. Some good points have been made re: Fryatt and King only being temporarily out of the side so we shouldn't get our knickers in a twist. That said, Sousa has only been here 5 games and he is already clearly trying to make a statement that this is clearly his team. The rationale for dropping King was actually unbelievable, I literally (not in the Jamie Redknapp sense of the word, either) could not (and still do not) believe what I was reading. As another poster said, to drop our best performer so far this season (even taking to account Burnley, in which he was by all accounts woeful) in favour of Oakley is absolutely mental. The Fryatt situation is equally farcical. Fryatt 'works' at Leicester. Why you'd throw out a tried and tested player, potentially to replace him with somebody who may or may not work (as we've seen with the likes of Campbell, success somewhere does not mean success everywhere), is totally beyond me. Admittedly it was against Macclesfield, but Sousa demonstrated that he was a Class A cock by dropping him after Fryatt had scored twice in the midweek, knowing full well that Fryatt is a confidence player. Make no mistake. Sousa wants Fryatt out because Fryatt represents 'old Leicester', not Sousa's new vision of midfield mediocrity. If only Sousa would open his eyes, he'd see that Fryatt is the sort of player he craves: technically gifted and with a very smart football brain. The Waghorn situation also briefly cheered me, but in my opinion Fryatt is currently a better option than Waghorn. If we're going to get promoted we'll need a tried and trusted goalscorer - Waghorn was an able deputy but went missing in some big games. He'll improve no doubt, and to have him permanently is wonderful, but he's not ready to be the superstar some people seem to think he's going to be this season. The sad thing is that Sousa seems too stubborn to do anything about it. I can see him going with his same band of mediocre favourites for the forseeable future. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it burned to the ground pretty quick.
Guest Mee-9 Posted 6 September 2010 Posted 6 September 2010 I think we should just play basically the same team as last season. Weale Neilson Hobbs Morrison Berner Wellens King Dyer Howard Fryatt Waghorn No shitty signings from this season (Moreno/Lamey) Abe on the bench, given a run out in the second half at some point. No doubt we'll see Lamey and Moreno. 2-1 win. Waggy and Dyer.
poopbutt Posted 7 September 2010 Posted 7 September 2010 the cov fans celebrations after coming back to 2-2 was on of the most cringing/embarrassing things i have ever seen hahaha
hackneyfox Posted 7 September 2010 Posted 7 September 2010 I'd be happy with Chris Powell to be given the role as caretaker for a few weeks so that we could find the right replacement. The issue is that with Mandaric and the thai guys, there's no track record of appointing quality managers time after time. But, make no mistake, Sousa staying will be detrimental to this club. Ooh good answer. Except it wasn't. Who would you actually want as manager. And Morrison is not the future of this club. He's been found out, as has Hobbs, but Hobbs at least can improve with an experienced player alongside him.
hackneyfox Posted 7 September 2010 Posted 7 September 2010 I may never feel the need to post on here again, because Ric Flair has just summed up my thoughts on the current situation at the club exactly. People say 'it's only four games', 'let's have some stability etc', 'Rome wasn't built in a day'. Stability is only good if you're moving forward. In reality all that has happened is we have replaced a manager with an effective style of football with one with an ineffective style of football. We have made our worst start for 16 (?) years. This isn't a minor problem. This is a major, major problem. Only once under Pearson did we have a blip like this, and it certainly wasn't in his first four games. And the worst part is, it's not even the results that are bothering me. Some good points have been made re: Fryatt and King only being temporarily out of the side so we shouldn't get our knickers in a twist. That said, Sousa has only been here 5 games and he is already clearly trying to make a statement that this is clearly his team. The rationale for dropping King was actually unbelievable, I literally (not in the Jamie Redknapp sense of the word, either) could not (and still do not) believe what I was reading. As another poster said, to drop our best performer so far this season (even taking to account Burnley, in which he was by all accounts woeful) in favour of Oakley is absolutely mental. The Fryatt situation is equally farcical. Fryatt 'works' at Leicester. Why you'd throw out a tried and tested player, potentially to replace him with somebody who may or may not work (as we've seen with the likes of Campbell, success somewhere does not mean success everywhere), is totally beyond me. Admittedly it was against Macclesfield, but Sousa demonstrated that he was a Class A cock by dropping him after Fryatt had scored twice in the midweek, knowing full well that Fryatt is a confidence player. Make no mistake. Sousa wants Fryatt out because Fryatt represents 'old Leicester', not Sousa's new vision of midfield mediocrity. If only Sousa would open his eyes, he'd see that Fryatt is the sort of player he craves: technically gifted and with a very smart football brain. The Waghorn situation also briefly cheered me, but in my opinion Fryatt is currently a better option than Waghorn. If we're going to get promoted we'll need a tried and trusted goalscorer - Waghorn was an able deputy but went missing in some big games. He'll improve no doubt, and to have him permanently is wonderful, but he's not ready to be the superstar some people seem to think he's going to be this season. The sad thing is that Sousa seems too stubborn to do anything about it. I can see him going with his same band of mediocre favourites for the forseeable future. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it burned to the ground pretty quick. Sousa in 'making a statement that this is his team' shocker!!!!! Who else picks the team then? Pearson would not be playing the same eleven as last season, people need to get that in to their heads. 'not Sousa's new vision of midfield mediocrity' You mean Sousa is trying to get a mediocre midfield? Really? Actually it would probably be better than we had last season. Who are themediocre midfield players that he has brought in to the club?
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