People here saying Sven's not doing the job!

[The Sven Revolution]

He said he was taking us to the PL this season. Failed his target tbh.

He said we will give it a go this season and we are giving it a go..its still a possibility..but its got to be a certainty next season..that has always been the target..we should not move the target!

[Al-aLondon-Foxile]

I may be wrong but when Sven arrived I seem to remember him saying that promotion was the target either this season or next. And realistically he was aiming for next season. I think he will be here regardless of where we finish this year unless the clubs owners decide otherwise 

[Babylon]

there is no indication that he will consider bringing through some of the better youth players

when we have Schlupp on the bench

I'd like to see a Grayson, a Lambert, an Owen Coyle.... younger managers with a point to prove who seem very adept at assembling a good young squad for the long-term.

Someone like Sousa, or Levein, or Holloway, or Taylor?

You constantly say you want to build a long term squad, but you constantly fail to recognise the time these managers have had time to construct their teams. Sven has been here since October, had no pre season and only had one transfer window, one notoriously difficult to buy players in.

We all i'm sure would have liked more permanent players, but if the quality we want isn't available what do you do? Not get anyone or get a player on loan who is good enough?

[Dan]

As a coach and a tactician I think Sven is lacking - always have and always will. However, what Sven does have is enough clout in the game to attract decent players to the club - Naughton, Cunnigham, Mee are case in points.

However, he's also brought in some dross - exactly how shite was Bender, for example, and I dont yet rate PVA

The thing that worries me about Sven is his need to go for instant success - with the exception of King, there is no indication that he will consider bringing through some of the better youth players... see Thracian for good accounts on this. Tom Parkes, Ash Chambers, Jorrin John etc... I reckon will have no chance under the Sven revolution. I am dissapointed to see Hobbs loaned out and Morrison sold - both excellent under Pearson

The signing of Yakubu illustrates this - massively paid compared to the other players in the squad when we have Schlupp on the bench and itching to get a start.

Finally, I wouldnt be at all surprised if Sven moves in the summer, with clubs like Blackburn? sniffing after him

I'd like to see a Grayson, a Lambert, an Owen Coyle.... younger managers with a point to prove who seem very adept at assembling a good young squad for the long-term.

Before you all get on your high horse..I'm not Sven bashing, but would prefer an alternative

Sven hasn't been ideal but no manager in the world is going to win you every game, and because it's Sven people will expect a lot more and when we don't deliver, the uproar is even worse than it would've been under say Pearson, of whom less was expected. He's been out-thought in some games, Sven has, but in general you cannot knock some of the football he's got us playing at times, absolute treat for the kind of fvcking dross you get week in week out in this league, go and watch Scunthorpe v Preston and tell me Leicester ain't playing nice football.

There's been more indication from Sven to bring any youth through than there has been from any manager in years. Jeff Schlupp made the bench against Norwich, and if it wasn't for such a shite performance on the night, he'd have probably got on if we were winning, but it wasn't like we could rely on Schlupp, a player whose never played a first team game, to get us out of trouble against third in the table, and you never saw the likes of Schlupp etc... on Pearson or Sousa's bench. Schlupp will get some first team action this season, I'm sure of it. You say Ashley Chambers and Tom Parkes - they've been playing for sides like Grimsby and Burton, now although Burton fans were a big fan of Parkes, you're saying just play them because they're our own products, I've more or less accepted Chambers isn't good enough, he gets loaned out to some League Two/BSP side every year, that says something.

"Blackburn sniffing". Christ. He'd be an utter mug to move there, lets also not forget they've already got a manager.

I know what you mean about one of the younger managers like Grayson or Lambert, even Pearson, but whose to say that Sven isn't building a squad for the long term? With the money we've got, whose to say that Naughton and Mee won't be here next year? Yakubu? If we've got the resources, there's no harm in using it to try and get up this season, Sven had 36 league games this season, that's more than enough to launch a serious promotion push, even if we do start behind everyone.

Think you're being harsh on him, I'm not one to get over-confident but I'm sure if Top backs Sven in the summer, we're gonna absolutely fvcking murder this league next year.

[Foxhateram]

OK, so after the defeat to Norwich there were many people on here who went on about how Sven isn't doing a par job, he has had money to spend but he is not delivering blah blah..

So where are you folks now?

Lets be consistent in our views..I'm saying we have a good chance to sneak into the play-offs this season..but even if we don't score another goal this season (we know that's not going to happen but just proving a point) I want Sven at the helm of the 10-15 million pounds that King Power will put in irrespective of what division we are in! I don't think there is a better man around to take us to the PL!

Does anyone want Sven out...this summer..I'll be bemused if even one of us says..yes to that!

Nobody has said that they want Sven to be sacked, however some of have aired our views and concerns about some of the mistakes he has made. I am not going to highlight them all again, and there is quite a few in all honesty.

A few weeks ago we had the same number of points that we had at that point the season before, of course that was a major achievement to get to that point and fair play to the team. However after that, was where the big test would begin, could we take that form into the big games and beat our closest rivals, and to be quite honest the we failed completely at that test.

No man is perfect, and yes i truly believe that Sven is the right man for us, but, he is far from perfect and seen as this is a forum where people discuss things like that, then i do not see how anyone has a right to come on here and taunt those who were simply pointing out the reasons why we lost those big games.

Up the city, Sven has my full support but i just wish some supporters would stop trying to claim that just because he has worked for "big clubs" and is a "well known" name, then he is faultless, because by judging him purely from this season, then that isn't even close to being true.

Much like ricardo and yak, just because they are "well known" does not mean they are elite and beyond mistakes, or even better than what we already had. Matt Fryatt has still scored more than Yakubu this season, and our right back is close up his tail, that says enough surely?

p.s. sorry about the Fryatt stat, but it is true.

p.s.s I am not claiming that Fryatt would have scored like that for us either, just pointing out that i think the yak needs to get his arse into gear.

[Corky]

Someone like Sousa, or Levein, or Holloway, or Taylor?

You constantly say you want to build a long term squad, but you constantly fail to recognise the time these managers have had time to construct their teams. Sven has been here since October, had no pre season and only had one transfer window, one notoriously difficult to buy players in.

We all i'm sure would have liked more permanent players, but if the quality we want isn't available what do you do? Not get anyone or get a player on loan who is good enough?

Exactly, Sven had to do something. The squad we had, added to the fact we were demoralised after the start, would have got us nowhere near the play-offs. Even Pearson would've had to make changes.

I think the play-offs currently are out of our reach, but you never know as the season progresses. However, I've seen enough to suggest that another assault on the top next year is very much on, so it shouldn't be all doom and gloom.

[Manwell Pablo]

As a coach and a tactician I think Sven is lacking - always have and always will. However, what Sven does have is enough clout in the game to attract decent players to the club - Naughton, Cunnigham, Mee are case in points.

However, he's also brought in some dross - exactly how shite was Bender, for example, and I dont yet rate PVA

The thing that worries me about Sven is his need to go for instant success - with the exception of King, there is no indication that he will consider bringing through some of the better youth players... see Thracian for good accounts on this. Tom Parkes, Ash Chambers, Jorrin John etc... I reckon will have no chance under the Sven revolution. I am dissapointed to see Hobbs loaned out and Morrison sold - both excellent under Pearson

The signing of Yakubu illustrates this - massively paid compared to the other players in the squad when we have Schlupp on the bench and itching to get a start.

Finally, I wouldnt be at all surprised if Sven moves in the summer, with clubs like Blackburn? sniffing after him

I'd like to see a Grayson, a Lambert, an Owen Coyle.... younger managers with a point to prove who seem very adept at assembling a good young squad for the long-term.

Before you all get on your high horse..I'm not Sven bashing, but would prefer an alternative

Sven plus points: - Good judge of talent, Knows what players suit his system, Will attract players others can't

Sven biggest weakness:- At times can be totally tactically inept and one dimentional.

I tend to judge managers on signings and results and if you look where we were when he took over and look where we are now it is quite hard to make a case for him to be moving on, espeically given he hasn't actually been given a summer to form a squad properly.

[Babylon]

Nobody has said that they want Sven to be sacked, however some of have aired our views and concerns about some of the mistakes he has made. I am not going to highlight them all again, and there is quite a few in all honesty.

A few weeks ago we had the same number of points that we had at that point the season before, of course that was a major achievement to get to that point and fair play to the team. However after that, was where the big test would begin, could we take that form into the big games and beat our closest rivals, and to be quite honest the we failed completely at that test.

No man is perfect, and yes i truly believe that Sven is the right man for us, but, he is far from perfect and seen as this is a forum where people discuss things like that, then i do not see how anyone has a right to come on here and taunt those who were simply pointing out the reasons why we lost those big games.

Up the city, Sven has my full support but i just wish some supporters would stop trying to claim that just because he has worked for "big clubs" and is a "well known" name, then he is faultless, because by judging him purely from this season, then that isn't even close to being true.

Much like ricardo and yak, just because they are "well known" does not mean they are elite and beyond mistakes, or even better than what we already had. Matt Fryatt has still scored more than Yakubu this season, and our right back is close up his tail, that says enough surely?

p.s. sorry about the Fryatt stat, but it is true.

p.s.s I am not claiming that Fryatt would have scored like that for us either, just pointing out that i think the yak needs to get his arse into gear.

There are many people on here who make constructive critisism on here without getting "taunted" as you put it. That's because they make valid points without going needlessly over the top, without failing to see anything good that has come of his tenure, are able to see the other side of the argument, don't twisting everything into a negative, and without trying to dominate almost every thread with the same points.

If the season started when Sven took over, we'd be joint top. Of course he's not perfect and of course there will be debatable decisions. But sometimes you have to take a step back and say, you know what, the fact he's got us to that position means perhaps we should cut him some slack and actually back his decisions, rather than second guessing absolutely everything.

Lets add another spin on to the Fryatt thing. Bert has said quite often on here that Fryatts attitude has been appalling all season, he was also widely regarded as one of those that put in a transfer request in the summer. Add on top of that Svens recent comments about getting rid of those with negative attitudes etc, and it starts to put a different perspective on that situation.

Of course his attitude may have been different if he had been playing. But from all the bits and bobs that have come out you can read between the lines and say the problems with him started with the loss of Pearson. If his attitude has been so bad, there aren't many managers that wouldn't have sold him.

[cc_star]

Sven's been good for us.

I'm not going to be walking down Gallowtree Gate with an 'I Love Sven' flag anytime soon, far from it, but it is an unavoidable fact he has improved things.

Whether his 8 defeats in the same length of time most teams have only lost 4/5 has improved things enough to warrant his astronomical wages & the reputation that proceeds him is entirely another debate, but he has improved things and therefore by default has been good for us. End.

[tomtom]

If Svens here next season its gonna be an exciting one for sure,.. Svens doubters need to take a reality check too, we have a brilliant manager who like Ferguson and all the top managers make the odd mistake and bad signing,.. its not that long ago managers like Peter Reid, strachan and southgate were linked to the club so realise when you have it good and make the most of it!

[Trav Le Bleu]

If the season started when Sven took over, we'd be joint top. Of course he's not perfect and of course there will be debatable decisions. But sometimes you have to take a step back and say, you know what, the fact he's got us to that position means perhaps we should cut him some slack and actually back his decisions, rather than second guessing absolutely everything.

That;s exactly my position. Was very dubious about his appointment, but I really can't find anything to criticise him on.

Let him be.

[m00nie]

As a coach and a tactician I think Sven is lacking - always have and always will. However, what Sven does have is enough clout in the game to attract decent players to the club - Naughton, Cunnigham, Mee are case in points.

However, he's also brought in some dross - exactly how shite was Bender, for example, and I dont yet rate PVA

The thing that worries me about Sven is his need to go for instant success - with the exception of King, there is no indication that he will consider bringing through some of the better youth players... see Thracian for good accounts on this. Tom Parkes, Ash Chambers, Jorrin John etc... I reckon will have no chance under the Sven revolution. I am dissapointed to see Hobbs loaned out and Morrison sold - both excellent under Pearson

The signing of Yakubu illustrates this - massively paid compared to the other players in the squad when we have Schlupp on the bench and itching to get a start.

Finally, I wouldnt be at all surprised if Sven moves in the summer, with clubs like Blackburn? sniffing after him

I'd like to see a Grayson, a Lambert, an Owen Coyle.... younger managers with a point to prove who seem very adept at assembling a good young squad for the long-term.

Before you all get on your high horse..I'm not Sven bashing, but would prefer an alternative

you cant just buy or borrow a team, they still need to gel together to work, and sven with his knowledge and experience obviously has more to him than just clout to get the team working as he has..

then theres the DROSS signings, how many people slated bednar before he came??? i cant remember seeing any threads on him that said they didnt want him, it was more hes proven at this level and will be good. he wasnt even first choice for sven either as miller was but got injured..

as has been pointed out you say he dont look at the younger ones yet Schlupp has been on the bench, with regards to hobbs and morrison sven came in we was bottom of the league, letting in goals, and these pair wasnt the same players as last season, whats he meant to do ?? he needs to work from the back to stop the losing to get us out the mess we was in, which he did...

then you complain about instant success but we was bottom of the league, we needed the instant success to get us up the table, then as we progressed the chance of promotion this season looked good so he continued with that, we dont know how much of this is down to the owners wishes also as they want promotion for the £££..

p.s it came out yakubu isnt on the 50k per week you keep thinking...

[Cat Burger]

Col City Fan is the embodiment of my misanthropic view of Leicester fans.

Get Owen Coyle in.

[artursteppe]

As a coach and a tactician I think Sven is lacking - always have and always will. However, what Sven does have is enough clout in the game to attract decent players to the club - Naughton, Cunnigham, Mee are case in points.

However, he's also brought in some dross - exactly how shite was Bender, for example, and I dont yet rate PVA

The thing that worries me about Sven is his need to go for instant success - with the exception of King, there is no indication that he will consider bringing through some of the better youth players... see Thracian for good accounts on this. Tom Parkes, Ash Chambers, Jorrin John etc... I reckon will have no chance under the Sven revolution. I am dissapointed to see Hobbs loaned out and Morrison sold - both excellent under Pearson

The signing of Yakubu illustrates this - massively paid compared to the other players in the squad when we have Schlupp on the bench and itching to get a start.

Finally, I wouldnt be at all surprised if Sven moves in the summer, with clubs like Blackburn? sniffing after him

I'd like to see a Grayson, a Lambert, an Owen Coyle.... younger managers with a point to prove who seem very adept at assembling a good young squad for the long-term.

Before you all get on your high horse..I'm not Sven bashing, but would prefer an alternative

What a load of incomprehensible Dross!

[artursteppe]

There is a chance, not only of the play-offs, but thereby promotion.

If we get to the play-offs we will be the team with momentum, which as most of us have experienced before, would give us an excellent chance of success.

For many weeks now, even when we were winning, we did not seem to be 'about' winning matches, just playing better football than the opposing team, somehow thinking that would be enough. Patently it was not enough against Cardiff, QPR or Norwich. There must be a 'marriage' of effort, determination and skill. We have the skill, compared with other Championship clubs, we have it in abundance! Our players seemed to have been under the delusion that that would be enough. It never was - we got by OK against mediocre opposition who maybe had effort and determination, but little skill.

At the Scunthorpe game, just maybe the players discovered effort and determination and combined those attributes with skill.

If that is true, and the players start to understand that you have to beat the opposition not just hope superior skill will always bring victories, just maybe we could really do the business this season!

[accessory]

There is a chance, not only of the play-offs, but thereby promotion.

If we get to the play-offs we will be the team with momentum, which as most of us have experienced before, would give us an excellent chance of success.

For many weeks now, even when we were winning, we did not seem to be 'about' winning matches, just playing better football than the opposing team, somehow thinking that would be enough. Patently it was not enough against Cardiff, QPR or Norwich. There must be a 'marriage' of effort, determination and skill. We have the skill, compared with other Championship clubs, we have it in abundance! Our players seemed to have been under the delusion that that would be enough. It never was - we got by OK against mediocre opposition who maybe had effort and determination, but little skill.

At the Scunthorpe game, just maybe the players discovered effort and determination and combined those attributes with skill.

If that is true, and the players start to understand that you have to beat the opposition not just hope superior skill will always bring victories, just maybe we could really do the business this season!

One win against a very weak Scunthorpe side shouldn't be allowed to obscure the deficiencies that were often glaringly apparent during the previous four games.

There's no guarantee that a quality side like Burnley or Reading won't exploit those deficiencies too.

Sven's made some big calls, discarding some of the mainstays of the Pearson squad while retaining others (eg King, Wellens and Gallagher). Time will tell as to whether those decisions are proved right.

[B52]

One win against a very weak Scunthorpe side shouldn't be allowed to obscure the deficiencies that were often glaringly apparent during the previous four games.

There's no guarantee that a quality side like Burnley or Reading won't exploit those deficiencies too.

Great, that means Notts Forest and Swansea must be in relegation battle. Because they lost against a very weak Scunthorpe side.

We have won over Hull, Leeds, Cardifff, Millwall and Notts Forest so with your logic we're already in the play-offs.

[Guest Col city fan]

What a load of incomprehensible Dross!

strange how many peeps have made some very good points about my post... most have 'comprehended' it

I'll rephrase things if you wish?

[artursteppe]

strange how many peeps have made some very good points about my post... most have 'comprehended' it

I'll rephrase things if you wish?

Let me clarify for you. I could understand the words but could not comprehend the trash you offered as sentiment.

[Guest Col city fan]

Let me clarify for you. I could understand the words but could not comprehend the trash you offered as sentiment.

This site is about offering opinion, some of which will be different to the 'fashionable' - I have neither offended you, or described your comments as 'trash' and would be be happy to listen to what you have to say as long as it is constructive and not personal - an adult conversation in other words

[purpleronnie]

This site is about offering opinion, some of which will be different to the 'fashionable' - I have neither offended you, or described your comments as 'trash' and would be be happy to listen to what you have to say as long as it is constructive and not personal - an adult conversation in other words

You've come to the wrong place.

[Guest Col city fan]

You've come to the wrong place.

t'would appear so

[Babylon]

This site is about offering opinion, some of which will be different to the 'fashionable' - I have neither offended you, or described your comments as 'trash' and would be be happy to listen to what you have to say as long as it is constructive and not personal - an adult conversation in other words

You very rarely actually reply to anyone countering your opinion with different points, a conversation goes two ways. As it is you seem to be just talking at people.

[Guest Col city fan]

You very rarely actually reply to anyone countering your opinion with different points, a conversation goes two ways. As it is you seem to be just talking at people.

The problem with this site, IMO, is twofold:

Firstly, it is abusive, with certain people frequently using derogatory and sometimes personal remarks

Secondly, it appears coercive, with anybody countering the mainstream opinion treated with 'groupthink' ie. lots of jumping on the bandwagon of mainstream opinion. I do not count yourself in this, from what I've read, your views are balanced and well thought-out. However, this is not the case for many, and it is very difficult to enter a 'two-way conversation', when met with comments such as 'dross' and 'the embodiment of misanthropy'.

However, I shall continue to post what I believe are valid views of Sven, as I did when I was previously on here a couple of years back, posting my concerns about Holloway at a time when I was utterly shouted-down for doing so.

Without the freedom to comment, in an adult way, this site serves no purpose.

For the record, Sven has done a good job at city, is able to attract some better players and I as much as any, was disappointed to see us slip-back when it looked like we were going forward. I absolutely hope we beat pompey and ultimately sneak 6th. However, as a motivator and a tactician, I still have reservations about Sven - as a lifelong City fan I hope I'm proved wrong.

[m00nie]

The problem with this site, IMO, is twofold:

Firstly, it is abusive, with certain people frequently using derogatory and sometimes personal remarks

Secondly, it appears coercive, with anybody countering the mainstream opinion treated with 'groupthink' ie. lots of jumping on the bandwagon of mainstream opinion. I do not count yourself in this, from what I've read, your views are balanced and well thought-out. However, this is not the case for many, and it is very difficult to enter a 'two-way conversation', when met with comments such as 'dross' and 'the embodiment of misanthropy'.

However, I shall continue to post what I believe are valid views of Sven, as I did when I was previously on here a couple of years back, posting my concerns about Holloway at a time when I was utterly shouted-down for doing so.

Without the freedom to comment, in an adult way, this site serves no purpose.

For the record, Sven has done a good job at city, is able to attract some better players and I as much as any, was disappointed to see us slip-back when it looked like we were going forward. I absolutely hope we beat pompey and ultimately sneak 6th. However, as a motivator and a tactician, I still have reservations about Sven - as a lifelong City fan I hope I'm proved wrong.

the thing is you say people are jumping on bandwagons etc yet people have replied to your post and gave lots of valid reasons why they think you are wrong and you havent replied to any of them..