Thank you Sven

[Basingstoke Fox]

They did make it pretty clear months ago that we would make loan signings this season to see where we'll be. Now we know, we can start to prepare for next season. I've only seen us four times this season but the football we were playing yesterday was the best I've seen this season and probably the best ive ever seen us play!

If we can sort out the defence and let Sven decide the rest then I have high hopes for next season. I do worry though that even if we're to finish 3rd next season, that still won't be bloody good enough for some people.

Give Sven until christmas and then judge him.'

[STEVIE B]

the NOTW?

Who actually believes the constant stream of bullshit they publish and have the cheek to call news?

Also those bitching about loanees: Have you convieniently forgotten the pearson seasons:

08/09 - 10 loanees (Gilbert, Hobbs, Martin, M Davies, Cleverley, Brown, Bunn, Stockdale, Warner, Astrit)

09/10 - 5 loanees (Waghorn, McGivern, Bruce, Vaughan, Spearing)

10/11 - 12 loanees (Vitor, Ikeme, Naughton, C. Davies, Cunningham, Bednar, Kirkland, Van Aanholt, Bruma, Mee, Yakubu, Kamara)

Building a team based purely on loanees isn't something only sven has been guilty of, and given Vitor and Ikeme were both Sousa loans, sven hasn't made any more loans than pearson did in 08/09.

I don't have a problem with a FEW loanees of quality, especially if we have a good chance of signing them long term. Sven has made errors in getting Bruma,Kirkland & Bednar. On the flip side he has found a couple of diamonds in Naughton & Mee, but can he sign them long term ? I couldn't give a hoot about what Sousa or Pearson got up to. We will probably have a huge rebuilding job to do over what will be a short summer. Sven can't really be judged properly until Oct/Nov.

[cc_star]

I think its disrespectful to Sven, to have Nigel Pearson even mentioned in the same breath as him.

Yup... someone who's done bugger all for well over a decade & one of the brightest coaching prospects in England

Roll on 10 games in to next season, when all his current bumboys will be applying the microscope to Sven's decisions, especially as all the players (barring the Bamba and the dogshit Vassell) he's expensively temporarily assembled will need to be expensively reassembled in another month or so's time.

[Guest Col city fan]

I think its disrespectful to Sven, to have Nigel Pearson even mentioned in the same breath as him.

THIS is ridiculous and epitomises the rubbish nature of this thread

[Samilktray]

1 man has won League titles in a few European countries including the Serie A. 1 has won promotion from League 1. Its not that ridiculous

[Kitchandro]

1 man has won League titles in a few European countries including the Serie A. 1 has won promotion from League 1. Its not that ridiculous

In regards to us, Sven hasn't done anything compared to Pearson yet. And it's with us that matters.

[Guest Col city fan]

In regards to us, Sven hasn't done anything compared to Pearson yet. And it's with us that matters.

This

[anothercrapseason]

Sven has worked a miracle for us this season after taking over from that portugese prixx, but he's also dropped a few bollox along the way.

The problem with playing loan players is that you have to question their loyalty/intent against a player signed and fully comitted to our cause.

Get Kyle Naughton signed up as quick as possible and get bruma and van arsehole back to chelsea on the next bus

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Yup... someone who's done bugger all for well over a decade & one of the brightest coaching prospects in England

Nothing for over a decade? Ha. Righty-o.

The man built an incredible team at Lazio in the late nineties / early noughties.

Since Sven has left the England set-up, we've gone so far backwards it's almost fucking unreal without ever seeming to build on the solid (enough) base Sven left. Perhaps the expectations of the English media built up this 'golden generation' that Sven apparently had in his control, but three successive major tournament quarter final appearances, as well as well and truly pissing qualification for all three tournaments, is a record that a fair few international managers would be envious of. He had some rotten luck in all three tournaments that lead to our eventual defeats (Ronaldinho's cross that Seaman misjudged, Rooney's injury, Rooney stamping on Carvalho's cock), and, looking back on that period now, it's glaringly obvious what a fantastic job he did.

Pearson's a decent manager (and did a decent job here) but he'd be nigh on useless without Shakespeare and Walsh assisting him, I was more bothered about them going than the man himself.

Read a book.

[StanSP]

Pearson had 2 seasons to bring good fortune to the club (one of those seasons being in a lower division). Sven's had about 7 months to work his magic. And in those 7 months Sven has lifted us out of the relegation zone and the darkness which Sousa got us in in to a play-off contending team. I'd say that's a pretty good achievement. And I fully believe that there's plenty more to come from Svennis.

[funkyrobot]

Sven might have made a similar number of loans to Pearson 08-09 but he's done it over less time and also pearson gained promotion whilst Sven clearly isn't going to achieve that this year. Pearson also strengthened the midfield with his loan signings, Sven has ignored this department completely despite us being outplayed a number of times in the middle.

[Bugg]

MTWG has got it spot on about Shakespeare and Walsh being the key people, Pearson wouldn't have had a clue if it wasn't for them. Pearson was a good disciplinarian and motivator but Walsh was the one who spotted all of "Pearson's players".

[accessory]

I think its disrespectful to Sven, to have Nigel Pearson even mentioned in the same breath as him.

Is this the same Nigel Pearson that is currently three points and two places better off than us?

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Sven might have made a similar number of loans to Pearson 08-09 but he's done it over less time and also pearson gained promotion whilst Sven clearly isn't going to achieve that this year. Pearson also strengthened the midfield with his loan signings, Sven has ignored this department completely despite us being outplayed a number of times in the middle.

Jesus Christ this is some retarded stuff.

Pearson was in League One, and had forty six games to manage us. Had we not got promotion from that shit of a league I'd have topped myself. Sven has had 35 or so this season, and let's not forget that in that period all teams had a head start on us. You're implying that not gaining promotion this season after the hideous beginning is a failure on his part, when it's not at all.

And, can I ask, how do you know that Sven has 'completely ignored' the midfield? For all we know he could've enquired about a fair few players.

[accessory]

Pearson had 2 seasons to bring good fortune to the club (one of those seasons being in a lower division). Sven's had about 7 months to work his magic. And in those 7 months Sven has lifted us out of the relegation zone and the darkness which Sousa got us in in to a play-off contending team. I'd say that's a pretty good achievement. And I fully believe that there's plenty more to come from Svennis.

What permanent signings is he going to make in the summer?

If they're as hit-and-miss as his signings to date, another season of mediocrity may beckon..

[accessory]

Jesus Christ this is some retarded stuff.

Pearson was in League One, and had forty six games to manage us. Had we not got promotion from that shit of a league I'd have topped myself. Sven has had 35 or so this season, and let's not forget that in that period all teams had a head start on us. You're implying that not gaining promotion this season after the hideous beginning is a failure on his part, when it's not at all.

In mid-February we were NINE points clear of Reading. We're now 12 points behind. At no stage has Sven made us competitive against the top teams in this division. Even Rob Kelly, with no money spend and no transfer window, managed that - in his first three months in this league.

Blaming Sousa won't do any more. It's time you and others on here understood that..

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

Is this the same Nigel Pearson that is currently three points and two places better off than us?

That's the one, the one that's had a longer period to stamp his mark on the club he's at, as opposed to our manager who's opted to loan players rather than panic buy permanent signings in the transfer window, thus not leaving us completely forked. Our manager, the guy who barely gets any credit for doing a fucking fabulous job and is effortlessly charismatic yet too frequently get's compared to someone who is about as exciting as a mandatory, four hour conference on double glazing in Stoke-On-Trent because one or two signings aren't immediately bummed off by fan boys.

[StanSP]

What permanent signings is he going to make in the summer?

If they're as hit-and-miss as his signings to date, another season of mediocrity may beckon..

How the **** am I meant to know?

I doubt we'd have another season of mediocrity. Ever since Sven came in, he's faced a huge battle in getting us to where we are now.

I fully believe that given the right (and full) pre-season and having a proper analysis of the squad over the summer, Sven will make the right decisions. The only BIG decision I disagree with so far is the inclusion and (loan) purchase of Ricardo.

[Brown Fox]

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[FoxyPV]

One of the worst things Sven has done this season is give me hope.

Cunt.

If it hadn't been for him I would have be able to wallow in mid-table mediocrity or a possible relegation battle under Sousa, hating Leicester for being so shit and giving off about them not wanting to aim for the stars.

His decision making / squad/ team selection be questionable at times and he may have put a lot of (misplaced) faith in loanees but at the end of the day he's done more than alright.

I just hope that all this fucking about and focus on the short term doesn't come back to bite us in the arse.

[Miquel The Work Geordie]

In mid-February we were NINE points clear of Reading. We're now 12 points behind. At no stage has Sven made us competitive against the top teams in this division. Even Rob Kelly, with no money spend and no transfer window, managed that - in his first three months in this league.

Blaming Sousa won't do any more. It's time you and others on here understood that..

...And look what happened with Rob Kelly.

Reading have gone on a remarkable run, have over taken many, and will have closed points on everybody who was above them in February so you're argument is pretty invalid, there. Their form speaks volumes about how good they actually are. Swansea were ten points ahead of them in February and now find themselves two points behind, does that make them a bad side? By your logic, yes. In fact, by your logic, any team that has lost ground to Reading is a poor side with an incapable manager, which, in turn, is EVERY SIDE IN THE DIVISION, you weapon.

Please, concentrate.

[Winchester]

I thought when sven came in we all promised to be realistic about this season - "maybe" we could get into the playoffs and nab promotion, but if not, fair enough.

I also thought that is why we went the route of all these loan signings. Give ourselves a massive push for this season, try to plough our way up the table with players borrowed from the premier league.

I imagine sven's approach next season will be different, and more traditional.

[Kitchandro]

Jesus Christ this is some retarded stuff.

Pearson was in League One, and had forty six games to manage us. Had we not got promotion from that shit of a league I'd have topped myself. Sven has had 35 or so this season, and let's not forget that in that period all teams had a head start on us. You're implying that not gaining promotion this season after the hideous beginning is a failure on his part, when it's not at all.

And, can I ask, how do you know that Sven has 'completely ignored' the midfield? For all we know he could've enquired about a fair few players.

Not a failure, but it's still disappointing the way it's fallen apart.

I don't want Sven to leave at all but I do find it laughable that people can make so many excuses for him. He's been the manager since October and has done a decent job. But some things he has done have been frustrating.

We were looking really good at the end of January, then he made some big mistakes and it's cost us. Those are his fault, not Sousa's or anyone elses, and I hope he learns from it.

Before everyone starts making out he's achieved a miracle again - how many points have we actually made up on the play-offs since he arrived?

On the other hand, calling for his head is crazy.

The two extremes are too extreme...

[Brown Fox]

Not a failure, but it's still disappointing the way it's fallen apart.

I don't want Sven to leave at all but I do find it laughable that people can make so many excuses for him. He's been the manager since October and has done a decent job. But some things he has done have been frustrating.

We were looking really good at the end of January, then he made some big mistakes and it's cost us. Those are his fault, not Sousa's or anyone elses, and I hope he learns from it.

Before everyone starts making out he's achieved a miracle again - how many points have we actually made up on the play-offs since he arrived?

On the other hand, calling for his head is crazy.

The two extremes are too extreme...

With reference to how many points we'd have made up on the play offs I think we were 4 points off the top of the table since he came but that was before reading. Not too sure what it is now but we'd definitely be in play offs

[buzzy]

Seriously are you ****ing stupid. What permanent signings? ****ing stupid question. You don't even deserve a response for that ****ing stupid question but I'm pissed and you among others had pissed me off all ****ing day talking complete shit.

and you don't talk complete shit