Boxing

[Guest Mee-9]

Biggest night of boxing of the years lads tomorrow. Without doubt. 

[don_danbury]

4 hours ago, SecretPro said:

How did I miss this, was this PPV? 

warrington was robbed of another round tbf. dodgy ref as usual 

[foxile5]

8 hours ago, don_danbury said:

john fury is so cringe. so is ksi

KSI should be likable - working class boy done good just doing what he loves.

 

Unfortunately he's turned into a gaping asshole. He's just a ****ing skin puller. I hate him, I hate his moron fans, and I hate this stupid dumb ass little freak show he's created. 

 

One of those situations where everyone says 'oh it's harmless' but actually the cultural impact he's having is net loss. He has influence and he uses it to make the next generation objectively worse. 

 

I tripleloath him.

[leicsmac]

12 hours ago, foxile5 said:

KSI should be likable - working class boy done good just doing what he loves.

 

Unfortunately he's turned into a gaping asshole. He's just a ****ing skin puller. I hate him, I hate his moron fans, and I hate this stupid dumb ass little freak show he's created. 

 

One of those situations where everyone says 'oh it's harmless' but actually the cultural impact he's having is net loss. He has influence and he uses it to make the next generation objectively worse. 

 

I tripleloath him.

And sadly he's far from the only influential "YouTuber" to be doing exactly that.

[purpleronnie]

I'm so glad I don't know who any of these people are.

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

And sadly he's far from the only influential "YouTuber" to be doing exactly that.

There are deeper layers to it.

 

The way he's extracting cash from children is criminal. He's a new breed of 'celebrity' and has cultivated this direct line of cash flow that is almost exclusively from early teens. He's buddied up with that Logan Paul who has been found defrauding his 'customers' - again largely teens.

 

It's very exploitative but the veneer of happy go lucky entertainer done good is just washing with folk.

[The Horse's Mouth]

Dillon Danis is money ain’t he, I’ve never gave a shit about these daft little events but I’m actually somewhat invested 

[ARTY_FOX]

22 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Dillon Danis is money ain’t he, I’ve never gave a shit about these daft little events but I’m actually somewhat invested 

No he isn't. As soon as he loses he'll go back to irrelevance. An mma fighter that never fights and a jiu-jitsu prospect that's record is abit of a joke even in a sport where losses happen extremely often. His biggest claim to fame is getting fly kicked by khabib whilst gargling connor mcgregors balls along side being choked out in a night club by a man who makes chocolate for living after googling himself and giving it the 'do you know who I am' routine. 

[leicsmac]

3 hours ago, foxile5 said:

There are deeper layers to it.

 

The way he's extracting cash from children is criminal. He's a new breed of 'celebrity' and has cultivated this direct line of cash flow that is almost exclusively from early teens. He's buddied up with that Logan Paul who has been found defrauding his 'customers' - again largely teens.

 

It's very exploitative but the veneer of happy go lucky entertainer done good is just washing with folk.

Yep, that's exactly what's happening.

 

That being said, the "happy go lucky" conman and exploitation of kids sadly are not new phenomena, it's just that the tools have become most sophisticated.

[JonnyBoy]

If anyone knows a good stream please let me know, I’m interested in this but not invested enough to spend £20 

[foxile5]

1 hour ago, leicsmac said:

Yep, that's exactly what's happening.

 

That being said, the "happy go lucky" conman and exploitation of kids sadly are not new phenomena, it's just that the tools have become most sophisticated.

And the cashless society had escalated the efficacy of the grift.

 

Twenty years ago you'd have had to pester savvy parents to buy some crap from an idol. Now preloaded debit cards are all the rage and it's separating kids from cash with amazing efficiency.

 

Everyone has to make a living but something about this is just unpalatable.

[foxile5]

22 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

If anyone knows a good stream please let me know, I’m interested in this but not invested enough to spend £20 

Have you got one of the loaded Amazon sticks?

 

I'd imagine you can find it on there

[leicsmac]

Just now, foxile5 said:

And the cashless society had escalated the efficacy of the grift.

 

Twenty years ago you'd have had to pester savvy parents to buy some crap from an idol. Now preloaded debit cards are all the rage and it's separating kids from cash with amazing efficiency.

 

Everyone has to make a living but something about this is just unpalatable.

It's not only unpalatable, it's unconscionable, too.

 

You'd think that governments would be looking to better regulate and take such grifters in hand, but sadly a lot of them are still evidently driven by the good wholesome ideas of laissez-faire and caveat emptor. Ethical behaviour be damned, apparently.

[foxile5]

5 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

It's not only unpalatable, it's unconscionable, too.

 

You'd think that governments would be looking to better regulate and take such grifters in hand, but sadly a lot of them are still evidently driven by the good wholesome ideas of laissez-faire and caveat emptor. Ethical behaviour be damned, apparently.

As long as they're paying whatever paltry tax they're due to it won't matter.

 

I think the upsetting thing is that KSI has waxed lyrical about how much his YouTube success means to him and his life. He doesn't need the extra. He's more than capable of being a millionaire from god's profile.

 

The prime, the merch, the grift. It's just unnecessary.

[whoareyaaa]

35 minutes ago, JonnyBoy said:

If anyone knows a good stream please let me know, I’m interested in this but not invested enough to spend £20 

soccer in hd dot com

[leicsmac]

2 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

As long as they're paying whatever paltry tax they're due to it won't matter.

 

I think the upsetting thing is that KSI has waxed lyrical about how much his YouTube success means to him and his life. He doesn't need the extra. He's more than capable of being a millionaire from god's profile.

 

The prime, the merch, the grift. It's just unnecessary.

Too many people thinking that greed and "more more more" is virtuous. And the most powerful nation on the planet enabling it by having that principle as its guiding star.

 

Anyhow, on topic: the whole YouTuber boxing idea was a farce when it started, it's a farce now and it will be a farce until the day the idea dies.

[The Horse's Mouth]

3 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said:

No he isn't. As soon as he loses he'll go back to irrelevance. An mma fighter that never fights and a jiu-jitsu prospect that's record is abit of a joke even in a sport where losses happen extremely often. His biggest claim to fame is getting fly kicked by khabib whilst gargling connor mcgregors balls along side being choked out in a night club by a man who makes chocolate for living after googling himself and giving it the 'do you know who I am' routine. 

None of that really relevant to what I said tbh, I’m not talking ability here am I else the geezer wouldn’t be fighting Logan Paul in his prime years, the man can sell a fight though 

[Guest nathan.]

The level is rising pretty quick in this youtube game

[Soar Fox]

What an embarrassment to boxing this is. And people have paid good money to go and watch this circus.

[ARTY_FOX]

37 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

None of that really relevant to what I said tbh, I’m not talking ability here am I else the geezer wouldn’t be fighting Logan Paul in his prime years, the man can sell a fight though 

If he could sell a fight more than a few hard-core mma and jiu jitsu fans would know who he is. 

 

Hes also proving why all the talk in the world wouldn't get anyone in a wider audience to tune in. 

Edited 14 October 2023 by ARTY_FOX

[foxfanazer]

This is atrocious

[UniFox21]

Unsure why commentary are trying to make this seem a serious fight. 

A numerous time jiu-jitsu world champion is just here to get a pay day and have a laugh.

 

Can tell by how he's asking Logan to punch him

Edited 14 October 2023 by UniFox21

[foxfanazer]

Absolutely mockery and the commentators giving it any sort of credence is embarrassing 

[The Horse's Mouth]

That was hilarious  

[ARTY_FOX]

5 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Unsure why commentary are trying to make this seem a serious fight. 

A numerous time jiu-jitsu world champion is just here to get a pay day and have a laugh.

 

Can tell by how he's asking Logan to punch him

They keep quoting him as a multi time world champion and it's slightly disingenuous. 

 

Funny he couldn't even take him down. 

Edited 14 October 2023 by ARTY_FOX