I am Rod Hull Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 I'm still looking out for the "Pecknam Terminator" Or...
Master Fox Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Think its time we brought in the Army, Finnegan, don't you? There seems to be a lot retards calling to bring the army in. Seems to me that some people believe the army have become a protection force for the wealthy and middle class If the army roll in and start shooting at fellow British citizens, then we will be in for some real serious shit. Some people need to get a fcuking clue.
acooling08 Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 So, a serious question.. what would you estimate to be the ethnicity of the rioters? I wonder if it's like the Brixton riots at all i.e Black vs police To be fair, I wish we were more like the US in this regard. Set the dogs on the cvnts, and allow shopkeepers to use shotguns to defend their property. BRING OUT THE WATERCANNONS!!
Nick Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 I think it's sad - really sad where we are today. I also don't think that the behaviours of looters can be justified. I am also not surprised by any of it. There has been a massive growing and collective collaboration of youthful discontent now from inner city areas for some time. We know that desistance from crime has heavy links to the choices young people have (Self efficacy) and how connected they are with their local communities (positive relationships with schools, youth groups, faith based organisations, positive activities such as sport.) Over the past few years, centralised resource provision for young people has been slashed - Youth Work provision has disappeared, youth unemployment has rocketed, Education Maintenance Allowance EMA has gone (Which wasn't necessary for all claimants but relied on totally by many as the only funding to engage in Further Education) Demonstrations and concerns by young people have been ignored. Stop and Search policy is so disproportional toward non-white groups that the level of anger among the youth and relations with the police are at a low. (Leicestershire Constabulary are also guilty of this and currently are seeking help, education and regulation of their Force to prevent the publication of such disproportionate statistics next year) Recession has not helped, a feeling of futility has swept over some youth demographics. The Olympics also has not helped - seeing expensive investment on behalf of 'the public' at a time when many inner-city young people feel polarised from their communities, struggling financially, and have no positive association with the Olympic brand, already feeling that they have been punished by the economic climate which they did not cause. For me capitalist society works as a pyramid with the greatest number of people at the bottom of the pyramid being the worst off financially. The skill of making capitalism work is to keep this bottom tier of the pyramid happy and feeling part of society - we have not done this. Much of our inner city youth are disillusioned, angry and polarised, not seeing any future role for them in society. There are lot's of reasons they feel like this, pick an argument: blame parents, economy, morals, youth policy, media, lack of discipline, respect..... la la la - It's a combination of all these factors. But it's been coming for a while and it's not been addressed. I hope when all this is over - and it may take some time, government learns a lesson - harsh I know but this has not happened 'out of the blue' and now organised criminal groups are preparing to use the smokescreen to their advantage. They'll be thinking that they can steal St. Paul's Cathedral tonight and nobody can stop them - and the scary truth - they are right. This may well go massive tonight and in the coming nights, more people will be hurt - a lot more, it's going to be scary. Lastly, I stress that I do not condone any violence or looting - I am simply unsurprised by it. N.
Austin Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 I think it's sad - really sad where we are today. I also don't think that the behaviours of looters can be justified. I am also not surprised by any of it. There has been a massive growing and collective collaboration of youthful discontent now from inner city areas for some time. We know that desistance from crime has heavy links to the choices young people have (Self efficacy) and how connected they are with their local communities (positive relationships with schools, youth groups, faith based organisations, positive activities such as sport.) Over the past few years, centralised resource provision for young people has been slashed - Youth Work provision has disappeared, youth unemployment has rocketed, Education Maintenance Allowance EMA has gone (Which wasn't necessary for all claimants but relied on totally by many as the only funding to engage in Further Education) Demonstrations and concerns by young people have been ignored. Stop and Search policy is so disproportional toward non-white groups that the level of anger among the youth and relations with the police are at a low. (Leicestershire Constabulary are also guilty of this and currently are seeking help, education and regulation of their Force to prevent the publication of such disproportionate statistics next year) Recession has not helped, a feeling of futility has swept over some youth demographics. The Olympics also has not helped - seeing expensive investment on behalf of 'the public' at a time when many inner-city young people feel polarised from their communities, struggling financially, and have no positive association with the Olympic brand, already feeling that they have been punished by the economic climate which they did not cause. For me capitalist society works as a pyramid with the greatest number of people at the bottom of the pyramid being the worst off financially. The skill of making capitalism work is to keep this bottom tier of the pyramid happy and feeling part of society - we have not done this. Much of our inner city youth are disillusioned, angry and polarised, not seeing any future role for them in society. There are lot's of reasons they feel like this, pick an argument: blame parents, economy, morals, youth policy, media, lack of discipline, respect..... la la la - It's a combination of all these factors. But it's been coming for a while and it's not been addressed. I hope when all this is over - and it may take some time, government learns a lesson - harsh I know but this has not happened 'out of the blue' and now organised criminal groups are preparing to use the smokescreen to their advantage. They'll be thinking that they can steal St. Paul's Cathedral tonight and nobody can stop them - and the scary truth - they are right. This may well go massive tonight and in the coming nights, more people will be hurt - a lot more, it's going to be scary. Lastly, I stress that I do not condone any violence or looting - I am simply unsurprised by it. N. Can't really argue with any of that. I just hope it doesn't end up spreading round the entire country, makes me grateful not to live in a big city.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 . Stop and Search policy is so disproportional toward non-white groups that the level of anger among the youth and relations with the police are at a low. (Leicestershire Constabulary are also guilty of this and currently are seeking help, education and regulation of their Force to prevent the publication of such disproportionate statistics next year) Recession has not helped, a feeling of futility has swept over some youth demographics. you dont know what your talking about, utter rubbish the rest of your post is quite good by the way but sorry the above bit highlighted is just an excuse for youths to act with no control
Heart-Shaped Fox Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 So, a serious question.. what would you estimate to be the ethnicity of the rioters? I wonder if it's like the Brixton riots at all i.e Black vs police To be fair, I wish we were more like the US in this regard. Set the dogs on the cvnts, and allow shopkeepers to use shotguns to defend their property. BRING OUT THE WATERCANNONS!! Too right. The Police there I think threaten to shoot people rioting and looting, should be more like that over here. Would soon put a stop to it, and anyone who gets shot, etc, wouldnt get too much sympathy.
Nick Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 . Stop and Search policy is so disproportional toward non-white groups that the level of anger among the youth and relations with the police are at a low. (Leicestershire Constabulary are also guilty of this and currently are seeking help, education and regulation of their Force to prevent the publication of such disproportionate statistics next year) Recession has not helped, a feeling of futility has swept over some youth demographics. you dont know what your talking about, utter rubbish Actually I do. Leicestershire are currently speaking to institutions to solve these problems and educate their officers and re-train where necessary, considering community panels and all sorts. Have you seen the stop and search figures?
One Arm Babba Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Just seen this. What a ****ing disgrace. Half these ***** won't even get a charge against them. There has to be change. My fix for broken Britain: 1) The namby-pamby law system has to go. 2 strikes and prison/boot camp 2) License to have kids. I know it sounds crazy but its these little ****ers parents that are to blame. How can 11 year old kids be out on the streets at 10 o clock at night. 3) Scumbag Island - Bear with me. If you want to behave like a feral rat scumbag then we'll ship you to an island with other scum like you and we'll have Battle Royale. The winner gets a new pair of AirMAX and a Plasma TV. Read/watch this and tell me different - Disgusting
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Actually I do. Leicestershire are currently speaking to institutions to solve these problems and educate their officers and re-train where necessary, considering community panels and all sorts. Have you seen the stop and search figures? Nick as i have said above your post is generally well thought out and other than the highlighted comments i generally agree, however i have some close links with people within the organisation and it isnt like that at all, the high proportion of different ethnicities within Leicestershire are Policed very well and IMO the local youths are generally very respectful of this, always exceptions to the rule of course. we dont need pictures like this do we? . . . . .
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Just seen this. What a ****ing disgrace. Half these ***** won't even get a charge against them. There has to be change. My fix for broken Britain: 1) The namby-pamby law system has to go. 2 strikes and prison/boot camp 2) License to have kids. I know it sounds crazy but its these little ****ers parents that are to blame. How can 11 year old kids be out on the streets at 10 o clock at night. 3) Scumbag Island - Bear with me. If you want to behave like a feral rat scumbag then we'll ship you to an island with other scum like you and we'll have Battle Royale. The winner gets a new pair of AirMAX and a Plasma TV. Read/watch this and tell me different - Disgusting Bravo that man, couldnt agree more
Nick Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Nick as i have said above your post is generally well thought out and other than the highlighted comments i generally agree, however i have some close links with people within the organisation and it isnt like that at all, the high proportion of different ethnicities within Leicestershire are Policed very well and IMO the local youths are generally very respectful of this, always exceptions to the rule of course. we dont need pictures like this do we? . . . . . No we don't and I'm not attempting to incite anything. I can tell you however for a fact that a colleague of mine is working with the Police on these issues because stop and search figures are disproportionately high. Leicester are at least pro-active in attempting to do something about it and discussions have been going on for months which is positive but don't tell my I am speaking utter rubbish mate because it's a fact.
Alexikokopops Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 My mate was coming out of the East London Mosque (the hooning mosque in Whitechapel) just after post-Ramadan prayers. It was at that point that the people attacking JD sports decided to turn on people coming out the Mosque. Thankfully they got chased away by the people coming out of prayers, but it's just further proof that people are just being opportunistic cunts, whether it's the opportunity to get some new trainers and a cracking TV, or the opportunity to get involved in some good ol' fashioned Muslim bashing.
One Arm Babba Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 is anyone watching skynews? they are interviewing a west indian guy.... he seems off his head and just ripped off his shirt and started crying....
acooling08 Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 This is what they think of it on Stormfront: Well these blacks are certainly well on their way to turning London into a replica of the African and/or Caribbean sh*thole they crawled out of. Burned out buldings, garbage everywhere and packs of violent Negroid bipedals roaming the streets looking for white people to kill. Soon it will look like Haiti. Only after the British government goes bankrupt of course. Until then the liberal idiots will try to keep pace with cleaning up the piles of rubbish and rebuilding the banks, shops and flats. When London finally goes the way of the typical Negroid ghetto then no sane white person will even set foot there in an attempt to clean up or rebuild. This must be what the white British wanted. A Negro population with the average IQ of monkey sh*t that takes over whole cities and turns them into rotting waste dumps. Next these blacks will build their houses out of cardboard boxes and stolen sheet metal. Of course London can get cold. Those Negroes won't live through it in makeshift dog houses like they can in the Caribbean and Sub-Sahara Africa. What is the point of all this nonsense? Why are these useless blacks living in London? Oh right. The English actually thought it would be fun to have a ghetto like Americans. How progressive. The English of course thought they would handle it better because they are not nearly as racist and ignorant as Americans are. The real ignorance is in allowing these third worlders entry into a white country. It is ignorance to assume that they would get along and that they are the same. No one is more ignorant than an anti-racist.
Leicester_Loyal Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 No excuses, bollocks to them. "We feel targeted against, we're standing up for ourselves, we're doing it because our area is poor and overlooked" Cut the bullshit, no excuses for this. Police should be able to shoot the looters. If I was a shop owner, I'd be defending my shop tonight, armed to the teeth.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 No we don't and I'm not attempting to incite anything. I can tell you however for a fact that a colleague of mine is working with the Police on these issues because stop and search figures are disproportionately high. Leicester are at least pro-active in attempting to do something about it and discussions have been going on for months which is positive but don't tell my I am speaking utter rubbish mate because it's a fact. its not fact Nick, stats can be thrown at anything, in reality they dont mean much. Sorry if i have got your back up i mean no harm, honestly!!!
Alexikokopops Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Too right. The Police there I think threaten to shoot people rioting and looting, should be more like that over here. Would soon put a stop to it, and anyone who gets shot, etc, wouldnt get too much sympathy. You're right, let's take a leaf out of the US police's book. Especially LA. Nothing can go wrong, no sir.
Nick Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 its not fact Nick, stats can be thrown at anything, in reality they dont mean much. Sorry if i have got your back up i mean no harm, honestly!!! No problem. It is a fact though: http://www.equalityhumanrights.com/news/2011/may/commission-and-police-forces-sign-agreement-on-stop-and-search/
Leicester_Loyal Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 My mate was coming out of the East London Mosque (the hooning mosque in Whitechapel) just after post-Ramadan prayers. It was at that point that the people attacking JD sports decided to turn on people coming out the Mosque. Thankfully they got chased away by the people coming out of prayers, but it's just further proof that people are just being opportunistic cunts, whether it's the opportunity to get some new trainers and a cracking TV, or the opportunity to get involved in some good ol' fashioned Muslim bashing. Other people who AREN'T Muslim have been attacked you know
Daggers Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Personally, I believe the Kaiser Chiefs could have given more of an indication of date and magnitude.
Master Fox Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 Who gives a crap about the 'image' of Britain or London. The only reason i give a crap is because i have family and friends in Hackney. If it was anywhere else i couldnt care less. Doesnt affect me. steal, rob and burn shit as much as you like. When it happens on my doorstep then i'll begin to give a shit. Lots of middle class gobshites in this thread.
Guest Bilo Posted 9 August 2011 Posted 9 August 2011 This is what they think of it on Stormfront: What in the name of all that's holy were you doing on fucking Stormfront?! Actually, don't answer that. Not sure I want to know.
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