The Year Of The Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Author Posted 30 September 2011 London Irish SIkh regiment sounds fine!!! 1 SIkh regiment compared to several Irish, Welsh and Scottish, taking a few soldiers from each will not be a problem, aslong as the proud Sikh regiment traditions are kept!! IF only true!! The jocks have already had all their infantry regiments amalgamated into one.
themotivator Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 It all depends what you'd regard as racist. Raghead is not the best term maybe, but I certainly didn't start it. Is limey a racist word for example? To some it may be, to others like me its certainly not. A friend of our family got suspended from his PE teaching job, when when managing the girls football team during a match he told one of his players to mark the black girl. I think their team was about to take a quick throw, and this girl was unmarked. That, IMO is hardly racist. If someone is black they're black. If someone's white they're white. probably irrelevant to what you're saying, apologies if so. your perspective of society and in fact the entire universe is clearly quite warped. you probably aren't a bad guy or anything... but you dont seem to have a clue. im not going to be explaining myself, because i have better things to do. maybe you can go on an epic journey of self discovery inside your mind. one day you might emerge a well rounded socially conscious asset to society.
Dr The Singh Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 I remember seeing a Sikh Fortress Turban on display in the British Museum, seeing a regiment of guys wearing these would be enough to scare the crap out of any enemy! That turban is worn by Nihang warriors, and worn during battle. Nihangs are the ultimate warriors, masters of all weaponry and martial arts, it takes great courage and extreme discipline to be a nihang, hence there are so few in comparison to the rest of the Sikhs.
Dr The Singh Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 It all depends what you'd regard as racist. Raghead is not the best term maybe, but I certainly didn't start it. Is limey a racist word for example? To some it may be, to others like me its certainly not. A friend of our family got suspended from his PE teaching job, when when managing the girls football team during a match he told one of his players to mark the black girl. I think their team was about to take a quick throw, and this girl was unmarked. That, IMO is hardly racist. If someone is black they're black. If someone's white they're white. probably irrelevant to what you're saying, apologies if so. Calling a Sikh a raghead is offensive, the turban is a article of faith, they consider it there crown, to offend the kings crown is offensive......I don't think I would say it was racist but many would. As talibans are not SIkh, I have no idea on what the rutban is for them. What is limey? I use the term black to describe black, and use the word white to describe white and brown to describe brown...that is ludicrious to be offended by it!!
The Year Of The Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Author Posted 30 September 2011 your perspective of society and in fact the entire universe is clearly quite warped. you probably aren't a bad guy or anything... but you dont seem to have a clue. im not going to be explaining myself, because i have better things to do. maybe you can go on an epic journey of self discovery inside your mind. one day you might emerge a well rounded socially conscious asset to society. Not sure whether you're referring solely to my post you've quoted or in general. I don't see how its warped. Where do you draw the line? One of my best mates has ginger hair. Everyone, including his boss and parents call him ginge. But one bloke I know refuses to call him that as he views it racist! Probably not the best example, but my point is you are who you are. If I call someone black it doesn't make me racist.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Author Posted 30 September 2011 Calling a Sikh a raghead is offensive, the turban is a article of faith, they consider it there crown, to offend the kings crown is offensive......I don't think I would say it was racist but many would. As talibans are not SIkh, I have no idea on what the rutban is for them. What is limey? I use the term black to describe black, and use the word white to describe white and brown to describe brown...that is ludicrious to be offended by it!! The Americans call us limeys because of our skin colour. Wholly agree with your last paragraph. I don't know why a raghead solely refers to taliban, and nobody else. But that is the case. Anyone critcising me for that needs to blame the first person to use that name, not me. It's just colloquial language basically.
Finnegan Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 Brits are not a race, 'limey' might be a bit xenophobic but it obviously isnt racist. Just admit you were being racist, made a twat of yourself and let's just all move on?
Guest Bilo Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 Pretty sure the term 'limey' is actually very old and refers to British sailors eating lots of limes on board ships to ward off scurvy, it has nothing to do with skin colour. It's just a gentle mickey-take at a trait so old and now untrue I can't imagine anyone being offended by it, certainly not on the same level as a Muslim or Sikh would be offended by the term 'raghead' anyway.
21st Century Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 Pretty sure the term 'limey' is actually very old and refers to British sailors eating lots of limes on board ships to ward off scurvy, it has nothing to do with skin colour. It's just a gentle mickey-take at a trait so old and now untrue I can't imagine anyone being offended by it, certainly not on the same level as a Muslim or Sikh would be offended by the term 'raghead' anyway. This. Limey has nothing to do with skin colour!! Raghead is a reference to the turban or sacred head-dress!!
The Year Of The Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Author Posted 30 September 2011 Brits are not a race, 'limey' might be a bit xenophobic but it obviously isnt racist. Just admit you were being racist, made a twat of yourself and let's just all move on? Id be the first to admit if I had done something wrong. It wasn't used in a racist way. Whether you choose to believe that is up to you.
Finnegan Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 !!! How the fvck was that 'not a racist way!?' Kinell.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Author Posted 30 September 2011 This. Limey has nothing to do with skin colour!! Raghead is a reference to the turban or sacred head-dress!! Fair enough, I understand that. But what you need to understand is that when the word raghead is used by the army or whoever, it refers purely to the taliban
21st Century Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 Fair enough, I understand that. But what you need to understand is that when the word raghead is used by the army or whoever, it refers purely to the taliban I don't think you malicious in anyway just severely misguided.
Guest Bilo Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQtxBwietCg Raghead is used as a racist term outside of the British Army as well. If it were a purely colloquial way of referring to the Taliban inside the Army, how and why has it managed to cause a storm in the US when a right-wing politician referred to Barack Obama as such? Answer, it's an offensive term for Middle Eastern people and anybody who follows a religion that compels them to wear a turban.
themotivator Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 Not sure whether you're referring solely to my post you've quoted or in general. I don't see how its warped. Where do you draw the line? One of my best mates has ginger hair. Everyone, including his boss and parents call him ginge. But one bloke I know refuses to call him that as he views it racist! Probably not the best example, but my point is you are who you are. If I call someone black it doesn't make me racist. Well excuse me for generalising your opinions and social persuasion. I'm sure that deep down inside he loves having his life defined by the fact that he has a certain hair colour. Yes, with mates like you he is almost certainly over it by now, but he shouldn't really have to. its not that that particular example is a tragic case of racism, there are just better ways to go about your life. Your mate is a bad example anyway. its about context really its a far more complex issue than weather calling someone black is racist or not. Im not going to explain it because it will make me look like a cock, but you have to think about how it in a less one dimensional way. having said that, im pretty sure you are a fervent BNP supporter, so obviously dont have any issues with making people born in different geographical locations or with different skin colours feel inferior to you. I dont recommend you ever embarking on a career, which puts you in close contact with young children. Your views and opinions are dangerous and not really conducive to an enjoyable society.
The Year Of The Fox Posted 30 September 2011 Author Posted 30 September 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQtxBwietCg Raghead is used as a racist term outside of the British Army as well. If it were a purely colloquial way of referring to the Taliban inside the Army, how and why has it managed to cause a storm in the US when a right-wing politician referred to Barack Obama as such? Answer, it's an offensive term for Middle Eastern people and anybody who follows a religion that compels them to wear a turban. Again, fair enough, though was I was in about 8 years ago Obama was pretty much unheard of. Perhaps when I was there it was acceptably used, but since isn't. Apologies if so
I am Rod Hull Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 The Americans call us limeys because of our skin colour. Wholly agree with your last paragraph. I don't know why a raghead solely refers to taliban, and nobody else. But that is the case. Anyone critcising me for that needs to blame the first person to use that name, not me. It's just colloquial language basically. Had to laugh at that... stu...
The Doctor Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 That cat clearly has dreams of being a dictator.
Bellend Sebastian Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 If I had a pound for every time I'd tried to make my cat wear a helmet fashioned from fruit, I would....erm.....err..... No, I've not got a clue what I'd do
Rincewind Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 That makes it OK, a slap on the wrist and don't do it again!!! I don't care what scenario i'm in, I would never use racist words to describe anyone!! I did not say it was OK only that he had thought about the comments made at the time. Being high profile maybe he would have to do that. An ordinary soldier would not have the high profile but the rules still apply/ But my point was that the OP could be contrued in different ways if the program had not been seen. After 8/9 pages it was revealed that the remark 'ragheads' was an 'endearing' term, But coupled with 'funny' and 'blown up' gives an whole new meaning. So we all should have translated the post as ' Did anyone see fighting on the frontline? I personlly found it satisfying (not sure that word is right either but its closest I can think of) to see the Tahlaban that were firing on our troops being held back by our ground forces as well as missiles when needed.' There is a lot of difference between the two versions/ Words are powerful careful how you use them. Was I to assume from the post that only those that were firing back were wearing the head gear portrayed in the post.? I thought that the head covering and gown/dress (dont know proper term) were the normal form of attire for all people in that area so unless you are a squaddie on the frontline 'raghead' could mean anyone
Rincewind Posted 30 September 2011 Posted 30 September 2011 Not sure whether you're referring solely to my post you've quoted or in general. I don't see how its warped. Where do you draw the line? One of my best mates has ginger hair. Everyone, including his boss and parents call him ginge. But one bloke I know refuses to call him that as he views it racist! Probably not the best example, but my point is you are who you are. If I call someone black it doesn't make me racist. When he first started stand up Lenny Henry used to have a character called Chalky White. He will not do it now or any of the jokes he used to do. Perhaps one day the bloke being called Ginge or shorty or tubbs will have a change of heart/ The names will never be offensive to the ones doing the calling.
foxile5 Posted 1 October 2011 Posted 1 October 2011 It makes me sigh in disbelief. Is Coalville just full of racists? Don't they realise that racism is wrong, and no matter how many times you get pissed up at the pub and chew over, convincing yourself and your mates that you're right, it can never be justified. They're human beings too, even if they look, sound, act, smell, speak and operate differently....flesh and blood just like us. Over the years there have been several high profile campaigns to remove racism from football and it's this casual racism, the tossing round of the term 'raghead', that has no place inside a football ground. I'd love to see what the Leicester City powers that be would make of this bullshit, especially in a city with a elevated population of people who wear turbans (those are the rags, stu). More to the point, I'd love to see what the city players would have though about it...I'm sure Sol Bamba would love to know that, when he pulls on the shirt, you're 100% behind him....assuming he's not doing or looking TOO differently to you at that time. Jesus ****ing wept.
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