Stay Positive Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 In my experience, I'd have to say I do. The vast majority of the rugby fans I have ever met have been self righteous, "I am superior to you" types who look down on football fans with a kind of arrogance that gets right up my nose. There are few exceptions. I could count on one hand the egg chasing fans who are great people, and, noticably, these are always the ones who like football as well, or at least aren't the "You should support a winning team like the Tigers" brigade (yes, i know they're doing crap at the moment, before anyone points it out). So, what's your experience of fans of the oval ball?
The Doctor Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 Not at all. I've never met a rugby fan who looks down on football fans like a snob.
Finnegan Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I think "most" is unfair. I used to have a season ticket in the Crumbie Stand at Welford Road (the terrace) and it was largely full of your every day folk. What rugby in this country does have though is a large upper-middle-class following and, yes, naturally there are a lot of textbook snobs amongst them. I've sat in the new stand a few times since it's gone up and I've never felt so out of place at a sporting event before in my life. From gourmet burgers, freshly baked cookies and boxed up pizza amongst the food to the mink-coat clad posh totty sat politely clapping with mild disinterest, it's a weird experience. It's a lot different over the border, though. Stradey Park used to have a cracking atmosphere, akin to a lower-league football ground. Rugby in Wales (and Ireland, as I understand it) draws a much different crowd. The strong connection with the collieries and rugby in Wales made it very much the working man's game and it still retains that ethos now.
Moto Hello Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 Yes, all the rugby fans I know say football is a game for whimps. And they look down at me (a LCFC supporter who goes to all home and most away games) as lower than them.
AoWW Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I think "most" is unfair. I used to have a season ticket in the Crumbie Stand at Welford Road (the terrace) and it was largely full of your every day folk. What rugby in this country does have though is a large upper-middle-class following and, yes, naturally there are a lot of textbook snobs amongst them. I've sat in the new stand a few times since it's gone up and I've never felt so out of place at a sporting event before in my life. From gourmet burgers, freshly baked cookies and boxed up pizza amongst the food to the mink-coat clad posh totty sat politely clapping with mild disinterest, it's a weird experience. It's a lot different over the border, though. Stradey Park used to have a cracking atmosphere, akin to a lower-league football ground. Rugby in Wales (and Ireland, as I understand it) draws a much different crowd. The strong connection with the collieries and rugby in Wales made it very much the working man's game and it still retains that ethos now. Ooh, I'm thinking Welford Road is starting to sound like quite an attractive proposition. I don't own a mink coat, though, nor am I 'posh totty'.
Stay Positive Posted 9 October 2011 Author Posted 9 October 2011 I think "most" is unfair. I used to have a season ticket in the Crumbie Stand at Welford Road (the terrace) and it was largely full of your every day folk. What rugby in this country does have though is a large upper-middle-class following and, yes, naturally there are a lot of textbook snobs amongst them. I've sat in the new stand a few times since it's gone up and I've never felt so out of place at a sporting event before in my life. From gourmet burgers, freshly baked cookies and boxed up pizza amongst the food to the mink-coat clad posh totty sat politely clapping with mild disinterest, it's a weird experience. It's a lot different over the border, though. Stradey Park used to have a cracking atmosphere, akin to a lower-league football ground. Rugby in Wales (and Ireland, as I understand it) draws a much different crowd. The strong connection with the collieries and rugby in Wales made it very much the working man's game and it still retains that ethos now. That's good to hear, Finnegan. Maybe next time I'm in Wales, I should attend a game just to see the difference. Maybe I've just been unlucky with the ones I've met so far, but I'm just going on my own personal experience. Football crowds and folk have always made me feel extremely welcome, rugby fans not so at all. As I said though, I certainly wouldn't tar them all with the same brush.
Super_horns Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I'd agree with any rugby fan who talks about the difference in respect given to officials in both games! I've noticed quite a lot of bitternes between the supporters of the 2 rugby codes more so that between rugby and football. Not been to many rugby matches in person but people do say there is a more freindly atmosphere but TBH I reckon most footballs fans could get along outside a rivally. Trouble is the violent minority get all the attention...bit like its the mis-behaving players who get all the headlines in the papers.
Stay Positive Posted 9 October 2011 Author Posted 9 October 2011 I'd agree with any rugby fan who talks about the difference in respect given to officials in both games! I've noticed quite a lot of bitternes between the supporters of the 2 rugby codes more so that between rugby and football. Not been to many rugby matches in person but people do say there is a more freindly atmosphere but TBH I reckon most footballs fans could get along outside a rivally. Interesting. Maybe I've inadvertently offended some of them by not having the faintest idea what the difference is supposed to be between league and union...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I never liked the lads my age that played rugby for a club. Pertruding fore headed, knuckle dragging cretins.
Stay Positive Posted 9 October 2011 Author Posted 9 October 2011 I never liked the lads my age that played rugby for a club. Pertruding fore headed, knuckle dragging cretins. They're probably the same ones I've met!
davieG Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 It's a bit akin to saying most football fans are hooligans. I find if you know a little about the game and show some interest in it and what they are saying they come across as dedicated fans of a sport they love and will defend it. I've never had a problem but most of the fans I've met have been through work so perhaps have other things in common as well.
Phube Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I think they are... Most I've met (including my own uncles!) think of their sport as superior. And bang on about hooligans, thugs and idiots (the fans)! But then think it's a 'mans game' because the players weight 20 stone and punch shit out of each other during the game!?!? Although the most staunch football hater at work agrees that football has one thing right. The fact that we don't play professional games when the internationals are on. He's a Saints fan and they like Tigers have lost 6 first team players during the World Cup... how is that a Professional game?!?
purpleronnie Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I can't stand rugby so I try and avoid any rugby fans but the ones I couldnt avoid seem ok..
Guest Bilo Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I'm with Finnegan. The Crumbie Terrace has fans on it that aren't a million miles away from City fans really, right down to the moaners. You don't get the utter mouthbreathers there however, which certainly makes for a more relaxed atmosphere. I actually quite enjoy the terrace on a big game, watching the replays of Manu's combo on Chris Ashton on the video screen was a genuinely funny experience. Some of the people I've met on the Crumbie have been better company than some of our very own supporters, put it that way. Go to the Cat Stand however and it makes our West Stand look like the İnönü when Galatasaray in town. I daresay this is the kind of place where you find rugger fans exactly like those you've described, very much a middle-class and genteel experience with the spectators only rarely mustering anything other than polite applause. Though again, I bet you could find similarly snobbish arseholes in the padded seat areas of the KP on a matchday, so swings and roundabouts.
skinnydipper Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 No, but I do find that the majority of Man U fans are
accessory Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I think they are... Most I've met (including my own uncles!) think of their sport as superior. And bang on about hooligans, thugs and idiots (the fans)! But then think it's a 'mans game' because the players weight 20 stone and punch shit out of each other during the game!?!? Although the most staunch football hater at work agrees that football has one thing right. The fact that we don't play professional games when the internationals are on. He's a Saints fan and they like Tigers have lost 6 first team players during the World Cup... how is that a Professional game?!? Tigers have lost 16 players, most to World Cup calls but also 1 or 2 to injuries. It's therefore not surprising they've lost their first THREE home games (more than they usually lose in half a decade) and lie second from bottom of a league they normally dominate. If Wasps or Saracens were affected as badly as this, would the league season have been delayed until after the World Cup? You bet. The RFU make even the FA look benevolent and competent. Back on topic, nothing like a bit of brainless stereotyping to liven up a a quiet Sunday, eh? Yeah there are some less than pleasant individuals attracted to rugby, but you only have to look around these boards, especially in discussion around "banter" to know we're not exactly in a position to point fingers.
skinnydipper Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 Tigers have lost 16 players, most to World Cup calls but also 1 or 2 to injuries. It's therefore not surprising they've lost their first THREE home games (more than they usually lose in half a decade) and lie second from bottom of a league they normally dominate. If Wasps or Saracens were affected as badly as this, would the league season have been delayed until after the World Cup? You bet. The RFU make even the FA look benevolent and competent. Back on topic, nothing like a bit of brainless stereotyping to liven up a a quiet Sunday, eh? Yeah there are some less than pleasant individuals attracted to rugby, but you only have to look around these boards, especially in discussion around "banter" to know we're not exactly in a position to point fingers. At a meeting prior to the start of the season Tigers proposed that the LV cup should be played whilst the World Cup was on with the Premiership starting once it had finished. For some reason the vote went against the proposal
Saxondale Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 Yes. I used to go to Welford Road a lot and the overbearing middle classness of it all did my poor, working class head in. It's all very civilised and harmless but, personally, I prefer swearing, smoking and inane shouting. I can't stand the fat old women in their XXXL rugby shirts with their Thermos flasks of tea and seat cushions for their massive arses. I really am a terrible, bitter person,.
Stay Positive Posted 9 October 2011 Author Posted 9 October 2011 Tigers have lost 16 players, most to World Cup calls but also 1 or 2 to injuries. It's therefore not surprising they've lost their first THREE home games (more than they usually lose in half a decade) and lie second from bottom of a league they normally dominate. If Wasps or Saracens were affected as badly as this, would the league season have been delayed until after the World Cup? You bet. The RFU make even the FA look benevolent and competent. Back on topic, nothing like a bit of brainless stereotyping to liven up a a quiet Sunday, eh? Yeah there are some less than pleasant individuals attracted to rugby, but you only have to look around these boards, especially in discussion around "banter" to know we're not exactly in a position to point fingers. Oh come on. I hardly did that. I even said I wouldn't tar them all with the same brush and just said thet in my own, personal experience, most of the rugby fans I've met have been tossers. I dare say there are others on here who have found rugby fans, on the whole, decent enough. I'm not lying though - most of the ones I've met HAVE been arseholes.
leicesterseddon Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 It's a sport where they have a league season, and then whoever wins the league is still only in with a 1 in 4 chance of actually winning the league. Right...
skinnydipper Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 It's a sport where they have a league season, and then whoever wins the league is still only in with a 1 in 4 chance of actually winning the league. Right... And that is farcical but then football is a sport in which the team that wins The Champions League don't have to be champions
Thracian Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 I do remember arguing at length with former Wyggeston headmaster Mr Larkin along the lines that, with its history of pupils forming the club we now know as Leicester City, the school really ought to have football as its first game rather than rugby - the more especially seeing as football was "a much more difficult game!". He was horrified. My argument was along the lines that football was played around 360 degrees, therefore had far more playing possibilities than rugby and was consequently much more complex . Rugby, I said, was played through 180 degrees and was therefore half as complicated. Even more so considering so much of the play was pre-predictable as at scrums and lineouts. He wasn't ever persuaded of course but he never gave a reason and that perhaps explains why we never got on! .
z-layrex Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 Finnegans first post matches my experience of rugby (in england anyway). My girlfriend is pretty posh, as is her family. Live near cobham, will only shop for food at m&s etc. They're all Harlequins fans who seem to find any mention of football an attack on Rugby. It's very strage, they're always slagging off football, calling the players and fans chavs, wimps etc. They seem to brag about how they sell pizza express at the games. They have the same attitude towards Apple products. They will only buy Apple, and any mention of my new gaming pc or nokia smartphone is met with the same weird arrogance, 'why didn't you just get an iphone' etc.
somebum Posted 9 October 2011 Posted 9 October 2011 Probably more cultured than football fans. Most football fans really are at the lower end of the evolution ladder; but Rugby fans are on the next rudder
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