Gallagher?

[NewburyFox]

I'd have him in the team for now. He's not just good at set-pieces and crosses, he's great at them and will create so many chances and opportunities purely because he can consistently put in a decent cross. You don't need to have pace to play on the right side of the midfield - take Beckham as an example. He's not blessed with pace but he doesn't need to be, because he can consistently deliver decent balls into the box. The same applies to Gally (although obviously he's nowhere near as good.) So for now, I think he warrants a starting place.

No, not because he scored last night. I think you find if you study some of my posts, I don't rate Gallagher and have stated before that Danns looks more dangerous out wide - like against Nottingham Forest, away. That is my opinion, of course.

Danns has more pace than Gallagher, and I think he gets back and helps the full back out more than Gallagher does.

I think Forest away is the only league game he's looked like a decent Championship player.

[acooling08]

Gallagher's quality when it comes to crossing the ball from open play and set pieces make him worth it to be honest, not to mention his occasional screamer. Without Gally, we'll have Konchesky taking set pieces and aimlessly floating in shitting crosses that pose no threat at all.

[Kitchandro]

No, not because he scored last night. I think you find if you study some of my posts, I don't rate Gallagher and have stated before that Danns looks more dangerous out wide - like against Nottingham Forest, away. That is my opinion, of course.

Danns has more pace than Gallagher, and I think he gets back and helps the full back out more than Gallagher does.

I know you don't rate Gallagher, obviously.

But I can't understand why you think Danns is better. He's been cack in almost every game.

[Fox92]

Gallagher's quality when it comes to crossing the ball from open play and set pieces make him worth it to be honest, not to mention his occasional screamer. Without Gally, we'll have Konchesky taking set pieces and aimlessly floating in shitting crosses that pose no threat at all.

Don't you find there is no point in crossing the ball because we have nobody to aim at - although Nugent and Beckford climb well, they don't beat most Championship defenders in the air.

Also, how many dangerous corner's have we scored from? And, they don't always seem dangerous too me.

I fail to see how one player should be kept in the team because he is supposed to be alright when taking set-pieces.

[Kitchandro]

Don't you find there is no point in crossing the ball because we have nobody to aim at - although Nugent and Beckford climb well, they don't beat most Championship defenders in the air.

Also, how many dangerous corner's have we scored from? And, they don't always seem dangerous too me.

I fail to see how one player should be kept in the team because he is supposed to be alright when taking set-pieces.

I myself disagree that's why he's in the team, I think the shooting thing is far more significant than that.

In general I think he's a good player with a very good range of passes. You don't guess this from Danns for example. With Danns, you get a committed player who will run all day and get stuck in, but with limited passing and lacking a football brain. For me, he's looked more like a Fernandes type player than a creative one. He's supposed to be a forward thinking midfielder but he isn't quick and not particularly clever when dribbling. He's not a useless player, but he's rarely going to make a big difference in games.

Gallagher is on the pitch to be creative and link with the forward players. He put in a very reasonable performance last night, yes he lacks the pace to make a true impact on the wing but that's the problem when you have only one real winger. As others have said, he isn't playing in his best position. And he's not out there to be a great tackler either. For what it's worth, I've always thought he does his fair share of tracking back, he's just not good at defending.

The thing about creative players is they aren't picked for consistent brilliance, they are picked in the hope that they will produce a match-winning moment. There are some players who are consistently solid, but actually do little in terms of making a real difference. Of course it's not good enough to have one great game and then 9 bad ones, but we're not talking about N'Guessan, Gally isn't in that extreme.

If Gally plays as he did last night on a regular basis and comes up the amount of assists and goals he's got for the last 2 seasons, he's no weak link.

[Captain...]

I cannot recall him winning the ball back on the edge of the area last night, but, if he did fair play, but that doesn't and won't change my opinion of him. I admit sometimes he may get in positions to help out, but he rarely puts a good tackle in - I saw him back out of challenges again yesterday - I hate it when he turns his back which he does often.

Just because he can take a good set piece does not mean he should be picked. Like I said, there a way better optiions than Paul Gallagher, for us to look at and maybe purchase. I would prefer to see Danns play instead of Gallagher.

And if you notice, he comes inside far too much which leaves the full back exposed on a constant basis.

It is not just that he is good at set pieces it is that everyone else is so bad at them. We really need to get back in to the habit of scoring from set pieces, I can't remember many we haved score from a corner this season.

As for coming inside alot maybe Pearson has asked him to do it, he is not a right winger as such, he comes inside supports the attack and got 2 goals doing that against Palace. It is not about being a winger and hugging the touch line that is not his game it is about creating and supporting the attack and the midfield. NP has also tended to get Gally and Dyer to swap flanks mix things up a bit and let Dyer have a run at the left back.

It's a team game and we are finally playing as a team, each individual will have their strengths and weaknesses we just have to support them when they do what they are good at, and not get on there back when it turns out they are not perfect and make mistakes.

[Kitchandro]

Also I briefly mentioned his shooting. When he comes inside from either flank (though especially the left) onto his right foot, I feel there's a genuine chance of him scoring, a feeling I don't get from anyone else. People shouldn't underestimate shooting, it's not always about walking it into the net, if you've got a player who can consistently hit the target from outside the box and score quite a few then that is an asset.

[Bob Weasel Fox]

It's a team/squad game and these two players like most of ours do not possess all the tools in the box but they do offer a mix of attributes/kills that other players don't have. So it's really a case of the manager maximising the effect those skills can have on the team in producing match winning performances.

You don't have to be perfect to make a telling contribution.

This

[MGLCFC]

I'd like to see Danns start away from home as he is stronger than Gallagher. As for set pieces can you play a player just because he takes a decent corner / free kick. Some will say yes, others will want to see a more all round player. If Gallagher isn't scoring he doesn't offer too much in open play - I'd like to see Danns start a couple of games as his last two performances from the subs bench has warranted a place in the starting XI.

[Fox92]

I myself disagree that's why he's in the team, I think the shooting thing is far more significant than that.

In general I think he's a good player with a very good range of passes. You don't guess this from Danns for example. With Danns, you get a committed player who will run all day and get stuck in, but with limited passing and lacking a football brain. For me, he's looked more like a Fernandes type player than a creative one. He's supposed to be a forward thinking midfielder but he isn't quick and not particularly clever when dribbling. He's not a useless player, but he's rarely going to make a big difference in games.

Gallagher is on the pitch to be creative and link with the forward players. He put in a very reasonable performance last night, yes he lacks the pace to make a true impact on the wing but that's the problem when you have only one real winger. As others have said, he isn't playing in his best position. And he's not out there to be a great tackler either. For what it's worth, I've always thought he does his fair share of tracking back, he's just not good at defending.

The thing about creative players is they aren't picked for consistent brilliance, they are picked in the hope that they will produce a match-winning moment. There are some players who are consistently solid, but actually do little in terms of making a real difference. Of course it's not good enough to have one great game and then 9 bad ones, but we're not talking about N'Guessan, Gally isn't in that extreme.

If Gally plays as he did last night on a regular basis and comes up the amount of assists and goals he's got for the last 2 seasons, he's no weak link.

I do agree that he is a creative and technical player. Along with his shooting from long range (sometimes scores), don't you think he should be playing behind the strikers instead with two fast winger's out wide? That's where I think his best position is. I just get so frustrated with him, all the time because for all his attributes, he seems lazy, which is probably why he was loaned out and then sold by Blackburn, who play at the highest level.

I would rather see Danns out wide, and I stand by that at the minute (we have no other better wingers, apart from Vassell who is out). If Gallagher was to be in my team, he would be behind the striker's though. I am still not a massive Paul Gallagher fan though.

I'd like to see Danns start away from home as he is stronger than Gallagher. As for set pieces can you play a player just because he takes a decent corner / free kick. Some will say yes, others will want to see a more all round player. If Gallagher isn't scoring he doesn't offer too much in open play - I'd like to see Danns start a couple of games as his last two performances from the subs bench has warranted a place in the starting XI.

I do agree with this.

[Guest Col city fan]

Said it before and I'll say it again...

Do we play Gally knowing that he can't beat a full back, is weak in the tackle, and can't head the ball, and overlook this because of his technical ability ( which is the best at the club)?

Sure he can score sensational goals, now and then, and can cross the ball ( though I can't remember anyone scoring from a Gally cross for ages)?

For me, he's a luxury.. I'd rather see a tougher, quicker, wide man on the right hand side who can beat their marker, get to the byline and deliver a cross to an ONCOMING striker. This is what we miss IMO.

[Charl91]

Said it before and I'll say it again...

Do we play Gally knowing that he can't beat a full back, is weak in the tackle, and can't head the ball, and overlook this because of his technical ability ( which is the best at the club)?

Sure he can score sensational goals, now and then, and can cross the ball ( though I can't remember anyone scoring from a Gally cross for ages)?For me, he's a luxury.. I'd rather see a tougher, quicker, wide man on the right hand side who can beat their marker, get to the byline and deliver a cross to an ONCOMING striker. This is what we miss IMO.

The one for Beckford was pretty good (if I remember correctly - I think that was gally) and was very unlucky not to be a goal!

[Guest Col city fan]

The one for Beckford was pretty good (if I remember correctly - I think that was gally) and was very unlucky not to be a goal!

Wellens...

[Ric Flair]

Said it before and I'll say it again...

Do we play Gally knowing that he can't beat a full back, is weak in the tackle, and can't head the ball, and overlook this because of his technical ability ( which is the best at the club)?

Sure he can score sensational goals, now and then, and can cross the ball ( though I can't remember anyone scoring from a Gally cross for ages)?

For me, he's a luxury.. I'd rather see a tougher, quicker, wide man on the right hand side who can beat their marker, get to the byline and deliver a cross to an ONCOMING striker. This is what we miss IMO.

Difficult to leave out a player who will score and create over 20 goals a season, the same with King. Unless players with supposed superior abilities can do that then it's scandalous to leave them out.

Wellens...

For the cross against Blackpool first half? Could have sworn it was Peltier? Haha all 3 of us are probably wrong.

[DB11]

I really like him. He's definitely got better at heading, too.

[RumbleFox]

Yawn yawn yawn!!! What is wrong with you people? We have had all of this before and then Gally really started to look the picture under Pearson. He has been one of our top scorers for the past two years. He's a great player. I know that a lot of you just enjoy slagging people off but seriously, this again? I'd have him in my team every week. Maybe you should just start taking the p1ss out of everybody you ever meet just to save yourselves the time.

I'm embarrassed to be associated with most of you. And no, not just because of, like, ya know, what you look like 'n' that.

I'm behind you Gally!!

I think someone actually said on this thread "All he does is score really good goals!?!?!?!?? Well bugger me backward if that's not the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

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[Nickfosse]

Said it before and I'll say it again...

Do we play Gally knowing that he can't beat a full back, is weak in the tackle, and can't head the ball, and overlook this because of his technical ability ( which is the best at the club)?

Sure he can score sensational goals, now and then, and can cross the ball ( though I can't remember anyone scoring from a Gally cross for ages)?

For me, he's a luxury.. I'd rather see a tougher, quicker, wide man on the right hand side who can beat their marker, get to the byline and deliver a cross to an ONCOMING striker. This is what we miss IMO.

Didn't he put the ball in for Nugnt's headed goal at Burnley?

[Charl91]

Wellens...

You're right, it was Wellens. Superb Cross though.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/15975950.stm

30 seconds in

[StanSP]

Didn't he put the ball in for Nugnt's headed goal at Burnley?

Yep!

Some fans only want to believe what they want to, whilst disregarding clear facts.

[Guest Col city fan]

Yep!

Some fans only want to believe what they want to, whilst disregarding clear facts.

So what's that.. One cross leading to one goal? In how long?

I don't hate Gally at all, simply would like a pacy winger on that right hand side..

No need to get yer knickers in a twist Stan is there?

[StanSP]

So what's that.. One cross leading to one goal? In how long?

I don't hate Gally at all, simply would like a pacy winger on that right hand side..

No need to get yer knickers in a twist Stan is there?

It wasn't a direct dig at you. I didn't even see who NickFosse quoted from.

I just think Gally is getting a lot of unnecessary stick in this thread when in fact he's performed quite admirably well in recent weeks (at least since he's come back from injury).

[dpjfox]

technically very good but i always think to myself whats his best position? I sometimes think he is included in the team for hiis deadball delivery.IMO he is not a striker nor winger, possibly best "in the hole" or on the bench I saw him at Burnley where he was brilliant yet ive seen occassions where he shouldnt be in the team, but how can we leave our most technically gifted player out of the team?

[Kitchandro]

I do agree that he is a creative and technical player. Along with his shooting from long range (sometimes scores), don't you think he should be playing behind the strikers instead with two fast winger's out wide? That's where I think his best position is. I just get so frustrated with him, all the time because for all his attributes, he seems lazy, which is probably why he was loaned out and then sold by Blackburn, who play at the highest level.

I would rather see Danns out wide, and I stand by that at the minute (we have no other better wingers, apart from Vassell who is out). If Gallagher was to be in my team, he would be behind the striker's though. I am still not a massive Paul Gallagher fan though.

Yes I do, but at the moment there's no good reason to change it and put him in that role. Nor do I think there's a good reason to change it and leave Gallagher out, as he's been playing reasonably since Pearson took over, and I've always thought he is quite capable on the wing despite not having any pace. I'd prefer us to have a proper winger in a 4-4-2 but if we got one I'd rather him replace Dyer long term, though he did play well on Tuesday. I'm also happy for Gallager to play out wide in a front 3, if we were to change the system, he played there last season and was very good in the second half of the season. I actually think 4-3-3 would suit us if we got another winger.

I completely disagree that he's lazy, he's slow and a poor tackler, but he tracks back well.

Vassell isn't a winger even if he was fit, Danns isn't a winger either.

[Kitchandro]

It wasn't a direct dig at you. I didn't even see who NickFosse quoted from.

I just think Gally is getting a lot of unnecessary stick in this thread when in fact he's performed quite admirably well in recent weeks (at least since he's come back from injury).

Agreed, he warranted stick before his injury as he was absolutely cack but I find it strange that this is all coming out now after 3 decent performances and he scored 2 screamers to win us the game just over a week ago.

We haven't lost in the last 3 games so I can't see why people would want players dropped. I can understand people wanting Bamba in for St Ledger but that's because Bamba is arguably the best centre back in the league. It's not as if we have the best winger in the league to come on and replace Gally, we haven't even got the worst winger in the league, we haven't got a winger on the bench, full stop.

[Guest Col city fan]

Yes I do, but at the moment there's no good reason to change it and put him in that role. Nor do I think there's a good reason to change it and leave Gallagher out, as he's been playing reasonably since Pearson took over, and I've always thought he is quite capable on the wing despite not having any pace. I'd prefer us to have a proper winger in a 4-4-2 but if we got one I'd rather him replace Dyer long term, though he did play well on Tuesday. I'm also happy for Gallager to play out wide in a front 3, if we were to change the system, he played there last season and was very good in the second half of the season. I actually think 4-3-3 would suit us if we got another winger.

I completely disagree that he's lazy, he's slow and a poor tackler, but he tracks back well.

Vassell isn't a winger even if he was fit, Danns isn't a winger either.

Gally has got qualities.. He's a fine passer of the ball and not bad at set pieces.. Nothing special at them but the best we have currently.

However, you are watching a different player to me if you don't think he's slow and crap at tackling.

For me, the introduction of Lloyd Dyer back into the team has provides the ingredient that was missing in Svens teams... Pace.

We look a much better side when we are attacking with speed of thought and fleet of foot and this encourages us to counter attack more. Thracian must be delighted with this!

I'd simply like a right winger in the team who is quick and tricky... Someone who can push the ball past a defender and cut it back to the incoming strikers.

Gally, for all his technical ability, cannot do this and slows up play, time after time.

Gally can win a game one week.... However, he can lose a game the next by being too pedestrian when we need to put teams in the back foot.

Two nippy, tricky wingers please Nigel.. We have one in Lloyd Dyer who can hopefully push on with his form. Id like another.