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The Apprentice 2012

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Sugar's got nothing on Donald Trump. That guy fired a whole team (five people) at once on the American show and made the losing team always sleep outside in a tent. So much better than our shite.

Adam won't win but he should for being a bloody funny chap. Nick or Tom will mind, that said I'm not averse to either of them.

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The American version is the probably the worst edited show I've ever seen.

They'll sometimes show the same clip twice in one episode like we're supposed to forget they showed it once already.

And the board rooms are a joke, they edit in snippets of Trump's voice while looking at the back of his head or the contestants so it sounds more tense.. It's hilarious.

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Is there no interviews this series then?

That's always the best episode, but Sugar just said the two who won their task were into next weeks final and presumably that will be a task would it not? It normally is isn't it?

Normally you have the interviews then the final, I thought it happened that way anyway.

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Think I just heard the interviews are the final.

2 hour show on Sunday, 8.30pm.

I think they did that last year as well. Interviews and then boardroom ultimately combine for the finalists to sell their business proposal and themselves for one last time. I could be wrong, my memory is quite poor.

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Used to be an avid fan of this but havent watched this series.

Bored of the "individuals' trying to carve out a media career as opposed to being Sugars bitch.

Plus most of them are proper wankers.....ie Stringer!

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2 hour show on Sunday, 8.30pm.

I think they did that last year as well. Interviews and then boardroom ultimately combine for the finalists to sell their business proposal and themselves for one last time. I could be wrong, my memory is quite poor.

Last year the final was the usual task with all the fired muppets helping out, I guess after the mockery of last year where it was clear that Tom would have to have got caught shagging Sugar's missus before he got fired, as he was the only one with a decent business plan, actually he didn't have a decent business plan, he had a successful product, Sugar dismissed his chair idea, which was his actual plan, and just said here's 250K now lets develop this idea you have already put to market and been successful with.

So they have changed the format slightly, to make it slightly less obvious that the winner has already been decided.

Now they can interview all 4 and whoever has the best business plan will win, they should probably just do that at the start, bring in 16 people interview them and examine their business plan, then offer to go into partnership with the one with the best plan. It is called business, but doesn't make a good TV show.

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Last year the final was the usual task with all the fired muppets helping out, I guess after the mockery of last year where it was clear that Tom would have to have got caught shagging Sugar's missus before he got fired, as he was the only one with a decent business plan, actually he didn't have a decent business plan, he had a successful product, Sugar dismissed his chair idea, which was his actual plan, and just said here's 250K now lets develop this idea you have already put to market and been successful with.

So they have changed the format slightly, to make it slightly less obvious that the winner has already been decided.

Now they can interview all 4 and whoever has the best business plan will win, they should probably just do that at the start, bring in 16 people interview them and examine their business plan, then offer to go into partnership with the one with the best plan. It is called business, but doesn't make a good TV show.

It doesn't now.

I agree with you about them being chosen at the beginning. I much preferred the old process.

Perhaps Sugar should be kept in the dark about who's project is what?

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Tom or Ricky will win.

Tom has seemed strong most the way through. Ricky has been close to going a few times, which makes me think he's got a decent business plan and was kept in for that reason.

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Tom or Ricky will win.

Tom has seemed strong most the way through. Ricky has been close to going a few times, which makes me think he's got a decent business plan and was kept in for that reason.

Ricky's blotted his copybook by rambling on, but i've noticed they usually make the winning team look poor and they turn out winning so he could turn it round.

Still think it'll be Tom.

Claude :worship:

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Ricky's blotted his copybook by rambling on, but i've noticed they usually make the winning team look poor and they turn out winning so he could turn it round.

Still think it'll be Tom.

Yeah times I've watched it and thought the winning the team would lose.

Having heard the business ideas I think Nick might be in with a shout. The other three ideas seem totally shit. All I know it Jade won't win.

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Can't help but suspect that a lot of that was faked to make Ricky winning look respectable. He was like a flailing child for almost the whole series and then suddenly had Claude kissing his ass. Come off it. Another case of sugar's favourite business plan being earmarked as winner from the start

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Can't help but suspect that a lot of that was faked to make Ricky winning look respectable. He was like a flailing child for almost the whole series and then suddenly had Claude kissing his ass. Come off it. Another case of sugar's favourite business plan being earmarked as winner from the start

I see your point but, if Sugar was sifting people throughout the series based on their business plans, there's no way Jade would have got so far.

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I had picked Ricky early on, it was clear he was bigging himself up to stand out, but every time he had to do something he did well, he was prepared and he was confident, I think the editting was more to show his "journey" which wasn't as impressive as say Adam, but made more of a story.

As an apprentice Nick would have won, but I don't really see his business plan making money, Jade was awful and Tom should really have won it with what was by all accounts a very impressive business plan, but not one Alan Sugar would invest in, which seems a bit of a pointless exercise really, they should have had some guidelines to start with saying that Siralun wouldn't invest in businesses that use other people's money, so really the whole process was a waste of time for Tom as he was never going to win with that idea, no matter how brilliant, well thought out and executed it was.

Surely they should have had a look through them as part of the selection process.

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