The Falklands

[Guest Bilo]

La Pale de Calais could become the next Home Counties.

Gerrit done Camrun!

[breadandcheese]

I wonder how the debate would change if the Falklands asked for independence as a separate nation state?

We'd have to accede to this request. Would Argentina do the same?

[Daggers]

I wonder how the debate would change if the Falklands asked for independence as a separate nation state?

We'd have to accede to this request. Would Argentina do the same?

They wouldn't have any say in the matter.

[Captain...]

I wonder how the debate would change if the Falklands asked for independence as a separate nation state?

We'd have to accede to this request. Would Argentina do the same?

We wouldn't have to do anything, but it would be alot harder to justify them being British if that was the case.

[I am Rod Hull]

I wonder how the debate would change if the Falklands asked for independence as a separate nation state?

We'd have to accede to this request. Would Argentina do the same?

Independence? NATO would send troops and a couple of nuclear powered aircraft carriers in the name of oil liberation after a fight at the local pub in Port Stanley between two sheep farmers.

[Daggers]

I'm not going to get into a political debate, but to suggest the government don't have a understanding of what is really going on, the long game, and the tactics required to get the best result, but you / people on a forum / the media do is a little bit foolish.

The prosecution would like to enter the daily events over the last two weeks as evidence.

Cameron & Chums are being slagged off by colleagues, party members and the Tory press for appearing clueless. I think it is fair to assume that they might be a bit clueless on this issue too.

[breadandcheese]

They wouldn't have any say in the matter.

But would they relinquish their claim to the islands?

Argentina like to present this as British colonialism, so if the islanders turned round and said they wanted independence, how would it change the debate?

[Daggers]

But would they relinquish their claim to the islands?

Argentina like to present this as British colonialism, so if the islanders turned round and said they wanted independence, how would it change the debate?

The Islands would become an independent nation and any act of invasion would be seen in the same light as it would be now. I fail to see how it changes a thing.

But, seeing as the government receives £1M per capita subsidies from the UK, I hardly see this scenario popping up anytime soon.

[sphericalfox]

Argentina may well not have the military might, but they have some clout in the South American political continent. As it's imperative in the years to come that we have access to the untouched, unmined, minerals, that lay preciously in countries where the government might not like to do business with us and our competitors instead, I wonder how the negotiations will go. The problem is the quantity of oil and gas in these fields and determining whether pissing off a whole continent of countries is a great idea, considering in the next 20 years Brasil will have a great of deal of say in all things worldly.

[Jon the Hat]

The Islands would become an independent nation and any act of invasion would be seen in the same light as it would be now. I fail to see how it changes a thing.

But, seeing as the government receives £1M per capita subsidies from the UK, I hardly see this scenario popping up anytime soon.

Christ that must be getting close to the amount we give Scotland. Argentina can have that!

[The Doctor]

Christ that must be getting close to the amount we give Scotland. Argentina can have that!

I don't think Argentina would be too keen on possessing Scotland if I'm honest.

[sphericalfox]

I don't think Argentina would be too keen on possessing Scotland if I'm honest.

Yup, all their oil is nearly gone

[Daggers]

I don't think Argentina would be too keen on possessing Scotland if I'm honest.

Deep fried steak?

Empanadas filled with Mars Bars?

What's not to love!

[z-layrex]

Facepalm.jpeg

If you're facepalming at the spelling I somehow deleted 'the' as I was typing and walking. Like you've never made a typo?

If you're facepalming at the statement, it's true. The way the entire nation conducts themselves over the issue is like a child crying over a toy another kid is using.

[Finnegan]

I was facepalming at the statement, yes.

And this one is for the fact that you're actually backing it up instead of conceding that, yeah, you were exaggerating somewhat and being a little bit of a nob:

[Jackirius]

Which nob/knob is the offensive term and which is the one which you twist to open a door? I've always wondered.

[21st Century Fox]

Which nob/knob is the offensive term and which is the one which you twist to open a door? I've always wondered.

Knob

Nob*

*Can also be referred to as a c**t.

[The Doctor]

Knob

Nob*

*Can also be referred to as a c**t.

Or a p***k with a forehead big enough to to accommodate a articulated lorry doing a doughnut.

[brockmyster]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/03/falklands-protesters-attack-british-embassy

wankers

[Houdini Logic]

http://www.guardian....british-embassy

wankers

Why do they care so much?!

[Daggers]

http://www.guardian....british-embassy

wankers

Why do they care so much?!

Why does brockmyster care so much?

[Daggers]

You really don't fvck with Latino cops.

[brockmyster]

Why does brockmyster care so much?

Because what right do they have to attack what is effectively British soil over a period that is meant to be used to remember and honour the fallen

[BlueSi13]

I think it could only blow up in our faces if we act all billy big bollox about it, at the moment there is no military threat from Argentina, they have fvck all in the way of a military to threaten us, they were talking about it on the radio yesterday, they have not upgraded any part of their naval or air force since the last Falklands, and have decommisioned a number of ships since then, they are weaker now than they were then, and we have a much stronger military deployment on the Falklands, so there is no threat of force.

What the Argentinian premier wants is to open discussion about the Falklands and it's ownership, if we just dimiss it out of hand then we come across as arrogant twats, and they have already shown they can exercise their political muscle in South America.

All we need is for Cameron to agree to talks, not to concede anything, especially not ownership, but to agree to talks, if it is about oil they could make it very difficult for us to drill for oil their by cutting off trade routes from the South American peninsula, or they could make it very easy for us by supplying labour and raw materials on favourable terms of course.

Unfortunately I have no confidence in this government to be able to realise that or understand, and with the shadow of Thatcher looming over them they cannot be seen to be weak over what was her legacy.

What is there to discuss? Argentina doesn't want talks, she wants the Falkland Islands, along with the South Georgia and South Sandwich Islands, and the British and Chilean areas of the Antarctic. Heck Cristina Kirchner has made it part of the Argentine constitution that any talks MUST end with Argentina having complete control over those lands. People are also talking about some sort of shared arrangement with Argentina concerning natural resources, but guess what, its been tried. Every single piece of co-operative legislation that has been signed between the Falklands Islands, the UK, and Argentina, the Argentines have ripped up.

Britain's claim is so absolute that we have offered plenty of times to take the matter to the International Court of Justice (ICJ) to be decided there, but every time Argentina has said no, as she knows her claim is as weak as her economy, which is in utter turmoil after defaulting a few years back, with the vultures from Latin America, USA, EU and indeed that of the UK hovering.

Also, take little interest in "acts of solidarity" from other countries in South America, its just something those countries use to give the allusion that they are all united, when actually Argentina is far from the biggest or most popular kid in the room for many reasons. In fact almost all of the countries from South America bar Argentina and Venezuela (best of buddies ) are deepening their trade relationships with Britain.

[Gold Coast Fox]

Because what right do they have to attack what is effectively British soil over a period that is meant to be used to remember and honour the fallen

They wont attack, because they can't.

They have slashed their army budget since the last Falklands war and they have failed to invest in a single ship or air craft since.

Also, they only have 3 small boats (no bigger than fishing boats) patrolling their waters... This is not a country capable of mounting an invasion.

The only reason their big mouth president has brought this argument back up is because their economy is failing, it is just an attempt to distract their public from the state of their country...Also, if she really thinks latin america will put political sanctions on Britain, she is off her trolley.