foxfanazer Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 We had had a few at our place who are now in work, that have described the jobs seekers as an utter joke However, its a different story for me, I cant employ anyone at the moment not for the want of trying, or should i say cant get the right applicant, i even had someone turn the job down FFS who was out of work, and the salary is fantastic. (I am looking for a teamleader) What is that doing?
Dr The Singh Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 We had had a few at our place who are now in work, that have described the jobs seekers as an utter joke However, its a different story for me, I cant employ anyone at the moment not for the want of trying, or should i say cant get the right applicant, i even had someone turn the job down FFS who was out of work, and the salary is fantastic. (I am looking for a teamleader) Nightguard is looking for work, give him a try?
FoxesAreBlue Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Maiango (Hotel/Restaurant/Bar) at the top of high street had a Los of vacancies on its door this morning, I didn't see the actual positions available but it's on the door. I'm also struggling to fill a space, I'm looking for two PTs but the vast majority of applicants are not qualified or simply have the wrong attitude to work. One even said that he wouldn't be willing to do the jobs on the bloody rota! He was a 'no'.
Rincewind Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 I have a Food Safety in catering Level 2 Certificate now. Most bars though prefer applicants with big knockers and in their twenties. Not qualified to manage. Might be able to do glass collecting. Looking for part time for a start. Just enough to take me £20 or so more income.
foxfanazer Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Maiango (Hotel/Restaurant/Bar) at the top of high street had a Los of vacancies on its door this morning, I didn't see the actual positions available but it's on the door. I'm also struggling to fill a space, I'm looking for two PTs but the vast majority of applicants are not qualified or simply have the wrong attitude to work. One even said that he wouldn't be willing to do the jobs on the bloody rota! He was a 'no'. what job is that if you don't mind me asking?
Rincewind Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Nick Clegg has suddenly woken up. He's speaking out against yhe Tories plans for more cuts in welfare calling them Draconian. I'd be more confident of his seriousness if it wasn't for the fact that the Lib Dems are losing their support and he's thinking about the next election.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 I have a Food Safety in catering Level 2 Certificate now. Most bars though prefer applicants with big knockers and in their twenties. Not qualified to manage. Might be able to do glass collecting. Looking for part time for a start. Just enough to take me £20 or so more income. They have a few different roles, and as Maiyango is a hotel rather than a major city bar then there is more chance that they might employ you as a kitchen porter/glass collector. what job is that if you don't mind me asking? There was a sheet stuck to the door and unfortunately I didn't have a chance to read it properly as I was in a rush, I just saw the main title "Job Vacancies" or something similar and a list of roles underneath, if I have a spare minute tomorrow (which is unlikely) ill have a look and post them on here.
Rincewind Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Thanks. I will see if they have anything on a website. There are some vacancies but underneath it says last updated August 12th 2012. There is an email so if anyone is interested will do no harm to try. http://www.maiyango.com/?page_id=82
acooling08 Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Nightguard, have you ever thought about being a craftsmen? There are always jobs available for joiners, carpenters, painters, labourers etc etc If you're willing to try anything it'd be worth a go. Most colleges will offer short courses for that kind of thing, City and Guilds and all that.
Rincewind Posted 17 December 2012 Posted 17 December 2012 Nightguard, have you ever thought about being a craftsmen? There are always jobs available for joiners, carpenters, painters, labourers etc etc If you're willing to try anything it'd be worth a go. Most colleges will offer short courses for that kind of thing, City and Guilds and all that. I don't want to sound defeatest or as if I'm not trying but I'm 61. A bit late to do City and Guilds. I'm not very good with my hands in the above way. A little story to emphasise. A few years ago I went nightschool for metalwork. The tutor was the same teacher as I had at school (same place) after I had took a few weeks to make something he uttered these encouraging words. 'You haven't improved have you?' I have applied for labourer jobs nothing have come of them yet. If working on a site I would also need a CCSS (?) card which is also needed with some security jobs. Also if there was any heavy lifting to be done I may struggle. I have never been able to do that sort of thing. It's the way I was born. I do not class it as disabled but you might say the physical side of me was undeveloped. As in the case of various people what I lack in one thing I make up in other ways. I am more able to do paperwork than legwork.
CupidStunt Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 What is that doing? running a shift of people mate in the carton manufacturing industry, its a quite a specialised market and is one of the reasons why i am struggling to find anyone, pay is over 30k per annum aswell
foxfanazer Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 running a shift of people mate in the carton manufacturing industry, its a quite a specialised market and is one of the reasons why i am struggling to find anyone, pay is over 30k per annum aswell oh right, thanks. 30k would be nice
kyleolly Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Nightguard, have you ever thought about being a craftsmen? There are always jobs available for joiners, carpenters, painters, labourers etc etc If you're willing to try anything it'd be worth a go. Most colleges will offer short courses for that kind of thing, City and Guilds and all that. The construction industry is on it's arse a 61 year old with no experience would have little chance of getting a job!
Babylon Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Only had to sign on once thankfully and just for a couple of months, but they were an utterly useless place. I would advise anyone going to your own research before you go, because if I hadn't I wouldn't have received penny from them. The person I spoke to didn't even know there was income based JSA and contribution based JSA. When I went back a few weeks later to see them I was interrogated and felt like I was being treated like a fraudster. I perhaps wouldn't have minded if others were treated the same way, but when I was waiting others who clearly hadn't made an effort to look for jobs or didn't even seem capable of speaking English were just wave through without even being questioned.
The People's Hero Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I had a job available also which a number of people turned down. It did attract over 400 applicants in 3 days however. Its now filled, but of the people I interviewed (around 20), you can see why most of them are unemployed and will continue to be so.
absolutelegend Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I'm confused. Is JSA going up this year? 1%? Some report cuts, others report 1% increase. I've not had any pay rise for >4 years, not even inflationary.
okie fox Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I'm confused. Is JSA going up this year? 1%? Some report cuts, others report 1% increase. I've not had any pay rise for >4 years, not even inflationary. It's going up 1%, i.e., not keeping up with inflation.
Rincewind Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Only had to sign on once thankfully and just for a couple of months, but they were an utterly useless place. I would advise anyone going to your own research before you go, because if I hadn't I wouldn't have received penny from them. The person I spoke to didn't even know there was income based JSA and contribution based JSA. When I went back a few weeks later to see them I was interrogated and felt like I was being treated like a fraudster. I perhaps wouldn't have minded if others were treated the same way, but when I was waiting others who clearly hadn't made an effort to look for jobs or didn't even seem capable of speaking English were just wave through without even being questioned. For those new to it they treat different. They look at them as easy targets to sanction stop benefits etc. The long time unemployed whether through choice or other reasons have learn t to play the system and avoid being scrutinized. They fill the form out as required regardless if the jobs are suitable. The staff cannot do anything about these as they have followed the rules. I am only just learning this after over 18 months. I was being honest and looking for jobs I thought I had a chance with, which were limited so my form filling did not fit right. Now if the ads do not specify certain things I send off an email inquiring about it. 99% of the time I get no reply but it keeps those at the job centre happy edit: I do send off for the jobs I think are suitable as well.
flowwolf Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 It exists because the government knows there are not enough jobs to go round. If there were plenty of job vacancies there would be no need for job seekers allowence from the government. We went from being one of the worlds leading manufactures in all fields to being nothing more than a giant consumer wharehouse in the space of fifty years. Take away a mans right to earn a living and then let him see the greed and fiddling of expenses of the policitians who supposed to be leading him into a better life and you sow the seeds of civil unrest.
purpleronnie Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I had a job available also which a number of people turned down. It did attract over 400 applicants in 3 days however. Its now filled, but of the people I interviewed (around 20), you can see why most of them are unemployed and will continue to be so. I have to agree....why do people come to interviews like they've just got out of bed? Why do they sit there like a statue and why do they show no confidence or personality? Its like the people in my office who moan about not being promoted, I just want to say its because you always look miserable and look like you hate the job...maybe if you showed some enthusiasm people might notice.
BunkMoreland Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 Never been on it myself but an ex who I was living with at the time was trying to sign on after being made redundant and I had to go down to the job centre to verify that we lived together or some crap. What a horrible place. Like a toxic blend of sports direct and a prison. Full of gypo's in shell suits communicating in incomprehensible groans and skag-flavoured burps. For the first time in my life I questioned the theory of evolution. Anyway I got to the counter and this tired looking guy asked me for my national insurance number. Naturally I had no idea. I don't keep that shit memorised and I haven't seen my NI card got about a decade. I guess with that the guy I was dealing with instantly knew I had never been there before because he was ever so polite after that. Somehow he pulled my NI number from my previous address and was very adamant that whatever was going on with my ex, my 'record' would not be changed. I suppose at that point he could see I'd never claimed and could probably see no-one in my family had ever claimed, he seemed genuinely delighted to be talking to a non-claimer. He was talking to me as if we shared some secret, as if we were the only respectable people in a sea of shit. I gave him some knowing looks to confirm our unspoken pact. As I got up to leave I glanced at the queue of frankly quite filthy looking hoi polloi and said to the guy, good luck, to which he laughed and said, thanks, nice to talk to a human for a change. A ****ing HUMAN! He really said that. I laughed and walked off, reflecting as I edged back through the crowd of claimers gathered outside, most having already started on the cider at 9.30am, that he probably had a point there.
Finnegan Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 6/10 for effort but when you're being THAT blatant you're not going to hook much worth baiting.
ithuriel Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I perhaps wouldn't have minded if others were treated the same way, but when I was waiting others who clearly hadn't made an effort to look for jobs or didn't even seem capable of speaking English were just wave through without even being questioned. Noticed that too when i first went down when i was made redundant, careful though or you get labelled as racist. Thing is, the scroungers are good at it because they have been claiming everything for years and know what they are entitled to, like my youngest sister :xmasangry: Those that have been working and then get thrown into this are clueless and the poeple who are supposed to help you treat you like dirt for the most part, though there are one or two decent poeple ammongst them. Just seen on the news the government want to reduce the consultation time for redundancy by half :xmasohmy:, because they say it stops business taking poeple on, which is bollocks seeing as you have no rights until you have got two years in anyway. I will not vote Labour after their decade in power and after seeing clueless Cameron trying to run the show the Tories can go do one too, guess UKIP is the next one to try.
Jace Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 I've been a benefits advisor for 5+ years now and I am actually going mad from it...
Rincewind Posted 18 December 2012 Posted 18 December 2012 BunkMoreland, your post reads like a good prelude to a Mills and Boons novel. I can visage the romantic link between you and the adviser. Only thing missing was the sex which I would imagine happened at a latter date.
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