Rincewind Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 Indeed. But in the bigger picture of my career and life, I think to myself what looks better on my CV - gained valuable experience working or watched football every weekend? True that is why I have left part time real ale tester off my CV.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 Still no phone call, hmm Sorry to be the bearer of bad news - but when I interview, if the candidate can't do the shifts that we need, they don't get a call, they get the standard "good luck in future email" a few days later when I remember to send it. I certainly won't upset my existing team by altering their shift patterns just to fit in the new guy. They may be different, but it's competitive out there and why make a compromise when the next guy fits the bill? Enjoy the football, I hope it's worth it. I had to give up my ST his season for work commitments, I'm afraid I look after myself before I look after LCFC's pocket.
Lamby Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 It's not my fault if I only find out in the interview that the job advert was wrong, I can only go with what I have in front if my eyes.
Rincewind Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 Well with the few interviews I have attended I am asked how flexible I am with the hours and if I am prepared to work outside the standard hours. In fact it is a good idea to put that in your CV because you may be asked to cover for illness or holidays.
Guest Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 It's not my fault if I only find out in the interview that the job advert was wrong, I can only go with what I have in front if my eyes. Would you have applied if it had included details of working saturdays? Like someone else said it's best just to get a foot in the door somewhere then organise yourself from there. If you were equal best candidate with someone who said they were willing to work Saturdays in their interview then they're not gonna make life difficult for themselves.
Lamby Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 Would you have applied if it had included details of working saturdays? Like someone else said it's best just to get a foot in the door somewhere then organise yourself from there. If you were equal best candidate with someone who said they were willing to work Saturdays in their interview then they're not gonna make life difficult for themselves. No. I want a weekday job ideally
StanSP Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 No. I want a weekday job ideally Beggars can't be choosers. In the interview you can say you are willing to be committed and work the extra hours or extra days if need be. Employers love someone with commitment to the company and themselves so if you are already showing negativity in backing out of certain days, they won't appreciate that. Once you get the job, you can sort out certain days you can't work then. Not before you have a job you're not guaranteed to get. You have no leg to stand on in that position. And if you've got to cut down on the football to do 2-3 Saturday's a month, then so be it. That's life.
Lamby Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 Beggars can't be choosers. In the interview you can say you are willing to be committed and work the extra hours or extra days if need be. Employers love someone with commitment to the company and themselves so if you are already showing negativity in backing out of certain days, they won't appreciate that. Once you get the job, you can sort out certain days you can't work then. Not before you have a job you're not guaranteed to get. You have no leg to stand on in that position. And if you've got to cut down on the football to do 2-3 Saturday's a month, then so be it. That's life. It would of been Monday to Saturday 9:30-5:30 for 12 months with only about 20 days holiday available.
StanSP Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 It would of been Monday to Saturday 9:30-5:30 for 12 months with only about 20 days holiday available. Yeah? So? Sometimes you have to give up going to football, as hard as it may be. You gotta think about what's right for you in the long run.
Rincewind Posted 11 January 2013 Posted 11 January 2013 Who pays for your ST? I can't even go to the special price games.
Soar Fox Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 No. I want a weekday job ideally I want an 8am-4pm job, but at the time I couldn't find one, so I had to take a job working three shifts. A man in your position should take any half decent job that's available.
Ozwin Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 It's no wonder you're unemployed with this attitude. Sort yourself out and get some self respect, I was unemployed for about 8 months and I felt ****ing vile rotting in my own filth all day.
foxfanazer Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Lamby you seem like a decent lad mate but you are very naive I you think you can go to interviews and negotiate not working Saturdays. Get a job, go to the games you can make outside your contracted hours and then apply for other jobs whilst you're working. You will be a far more attractive proposition to a potential employer if your CV shows you have done something. Time to join the real world now pal. Sorry to sound so patronising
Alexikokopops Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 No. I want a weekday job ideally Seriously, you've been unemployed for how long? Work anytime! Work evenings! Work Saturdays! Sack off the football! Get yourself working, take the hit for a year and then you've got much more flexibility when looking for a new job.
FoxesAreBlue Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 No. I want a weekday job ideally Unfortunately, the ideal world does not exist. I used to think some people were I bit harsh on you on her in calling you annoying and a bit of a dick but I'm beginning to see where they're coming from, I do wish you luck but my god you can t be picky and choosy about it.
Guest MattP Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Oh dear... fodder for MattP et al. Don't look at me, I think it's wonderful a man who has been out of work for years refuses to consider Saturdays. I think we should contribute a bit more to his JSA just in case Charlton go up, those Premier League season tickets will be even more expensive.
Parafox Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Maybe he should commit theft to support his lack of employment, seems to work for other people and would meet with your approval
Guest MattP Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Maybe he should commit theft to support his lack of employment, seems to work for other people and would meet with your approval Of course the key thing is that sentence you have mentioned is 'employment'. If he works at HMV and is paid 45p an hour, he can and I'll understand.
Parafox Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Of course the key thing is that sentence you have mentioned is 'employment'. If he works at HMV and is paid 45p an hour, he can and I'll understand.
Guest MattP Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 It's alright banging your head but you don't seem to understand the difference judging by your last post between my opinion of someone in employment who is low paid and someone who isn't.
Parafox Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 It's alright banging your head but you don't seem to understand the difference judging by your last post between my opinion of someone in employment who is low paid and someone who isn't. I understand that mate, I just banged my head at your support of commiting a crime if you're in a low paid job.
Guest MattP Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Crime is OTT in 99% of the cases, I'll break it down a bit simpler. Maybe he should commit theft to support his lack of employment, seems to work for other people and would meet with your approval Scenario 1 - Under paid employee. Sent on a course from his workplace, claims a bit more than he should on the firm, has a few beers, nice steak, all on the card, bit too much. Boss sees it and signs it off anyway, it's only a few quid, the company can afford it, a happy worker is a good worker. Result - Boss - Happy. Employee - Happy. Company - Benefits from this Scenario 2 - Unemployed man stealing to top up his benefits. Man thinks he should gets more JSA so smashes window of Aldi to steal some more groceries. Result - Aldi - Not Happy Man - Probably going to Jail Society - Paying to clean up the mess.
Parafox Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Crime is OTT in 99% of the cases, I'll break it down a bit simpler. Scenario 1 - Under paid employee. Sent on a course from his workplace, claims a bit more than he should on the firm, has a few beers, nice steak, all on the card, bit too much. Boss sees it and signs it off anyway, it's only a few quid, the company can afford it, a happy worker is a good worker. Result - Boss - Happy. Employee - Happy. Company - Benefits from this Scenario 2 - Unemployed man stealing to top up his benefits. Man thinks he should gets more JSA so smashes window of Aldi to steal some more groceries. Result - Aldi - Not Happy Man - Probably going to Jail Society - Paying to clean up the mess. Fair enough in some ways I guess, but both scenarios are essentially illegal as the guy in 1 is commiting fraud. But if the boss is happy to wear it, then ok. But... we have to hope that Mr scenario 1 isn't going to get greedy or that his colleagues don't find out and think, well if he can do it, why can't we?
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