Rincewind Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 I understand that mate, I just banged my head at your support of commiting a crime if you're in a low paid job. I understand that mate, I just banged my head at your support of commiting a crime if you're in a low paid job. Reminds me of some of the thoughts of supporters of the NRA. Take guns away from criminals they will get them illegally so make the available at your local corner shop so they don't commit another crime to get the guns to go on a shooting spree.
Rincewind Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Crime is OTT in 99% of the cases, I'll break it down a bit simpler. Scenario 1 - Under paid employee. Sent on a course from his workplace, claims a bit more than he should on the firm, has a few beers, nice steak, all on the card, bit too much. Boss sees it and signs it off anyway, it's only a few quid, the company can afford it, a happy worker is a good worker. Result - Boss - Happy. Employee - Happy. Company - Benefits from this Scenario 2 - Unemployed man stealing to top up his benefits. Man thinks he should gets more JSA so smashes window of Aldi to steal some more groceries so his kids can be fed. Result - Aldi - Not Happy Man - Probably going to Jail Society - Paying to clean up the mess.
Guest MattP Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Fair enough in some ways I guess, but both scenarios are essentially illegal as the guy in 1 is commiting fraud. But if the boss is happy to wear it, then ok. But... we have to hope that Mr scenario 1 isn't going to get greedy or that his colleagues don't find out and think, well if he can do it, why can't we? They do. I worked as an expenses clerk in my younger days, some of the stuff I put through was outrageous and when I queried stuff not once did a manager ever tell me not to pay it. Reminds me of some of the thoughts of supporters of the NRA. Take guns away from criminals they will get them illegally so make the available at your local corner shop so they don't commit another crime to get the guns to go on a shooting spree. I really don't see the comparison.
stix Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 It would of been Monday to Saturday 9:30-5:30 for 12 months with only about 20 days holiday available. Moron. Ideally i want a job where i start at say...11am? Hour lunch at 1 then knock off no later than 3pm. Actually better make it half two, the school traffic round here is murder. I only want to do 2 days maximum per week, weds/thurs i think. I want 3 months paid holiday a year and i want at least £95,000 a year for doing it. ...and then i woke up. Just get a ****ing job you idle ****
Rincewind Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Moron. Ideally i want a job where i start at say...11am? Hour lunch at 1 then knock off no later than 3pm. Actually better make it half two, the school traffic round here is murder. I only want to do 2 days maximum per week, weds/thurs i think. I want 3 months paid holiday a year and i want at least £95,000 a year for doing it. ...and then i woke up. Just get a ****ing job you idle **** Stand as a member of Parliament.
Guest MattP Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Stand as a member of Parliament. Why not? Anyone can. Massive advantage in the ground game being unemployed as well as you would have time to knock on every door in the constituency you are fighting.
Parafox Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 They do. I worked as an expenses clerk in my younger days, some of the stuff I put through was outrageous and when I queried stuff not once did a manager ever tell me not to pay it. Clearly this affects your view on things. I think you're making statments based on your previous experiences, but then, don't we all?
Rincewind Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Why not? Anyone can. Massive advantage in the ground game being unemployed as well as you would have time to knock on every door in the constituency you are fighting. That is what I was suggesting for the conditions quoted.
Mike the Metal Ed Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Moron. Ideally i want a job where i start at say...11am? Hour lunch at 1 then knock off no later than 3pm. Actually better make it half two, the school traffic round here is murder. I only want to do 2 days maximum per week, weds/thurs i think. I want 3 months paid holiday a year and i want at least £95,000 a year for doing it. ...and then i woke up. Just get a ****ing job you idle **** Bit needless isn't it? He should be less picky, yes, but how do we get from "I'd rather not work Saturdays" to that diatribe?
Guest MattP Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 That is what I was suggesting for the conditions quoted. There was nothing in those conditions that being an MP gets.
stix Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Bit needless isn't it? He should be less picky, yes, but how do we get from "I'd rather not work Saturdays" to that diatribe? Only the last sentence possibly. I've got an 11 hour shift to start in an hour. I'm just mardy.
Rincewind Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 There was nothing in those conditions that being an MP gets. What about a joke writer?
MPH Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 Reminds me of some of the thoughts of supporters of the NRA. Take guns away from criminals they will get them illegally so make the available at your local corner shop so they don't commit another crime to get the guns to go on a shooting spree. In their defence, making them available locally will actually allow people to defend themselves against the people who are already obtaining them illegally. In england i never felt the need to have a Gun. EVER. Think about it... Take the gun out of the law abiding citizens hand... how are they going to defend their home/spouse/ child? Living here for two years has really changed my mind. I'm Living in a city called Concord, North Carolinahe one advantage that England has is that it isnt attached by road/ mountain... basically by land to hundreds of miullions of people soem of who are constantly smuggling things in. Are things smuggled in on flights and boats? Sure. But it isnt as easy as by road and thats being proven daily along the southern boarder in the US. I live within a few miles of an area highly populated by Hispanics who, suprise surprise are caught with guns brought in from south and central america DAILY. Once deported they just pay a 'coyote' to being them back in a few days later. Some are imprisoned. 20% of the Prison population in the US are hispanics with the vast majoritry of them being illegal immigrants. It costs thousanbds of dollars every week for each prisoner so this is why most are deported. Now dont get me wrong this isnt an anti hispanic post but there really is an issue with illegal immigrants bringing in illegal guns and drugs. Thats just a simple fact and the banning of the sale of guns will simply mean i will not be able to defend my family should someone with a gun try and confront me in my home or out on the street,. Living here for the time i have has made it VERY clear to me that this is a VERY different place to England. Now i want to make it very clear i am NOTAnti- Hispanic... its just the vast majority in this area ( concord) are illegal. They are being caught daily... and being sent back daily.... and they really are. I'm not making it up. and with the particular group being caught near me, the issue is drugs and guns - being brought in with them from mostly Mexico.
Vardinhio Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 oh Lamby, you should have rang up and chased the result of your interview! My advice to you now is to get a job, any job, otherwise you will slip further and further in to the dregs of society and you will become unemployable. You might think its fun now whilst you're at home with the rents but when you're sat in your council flat with druggies knocking around your front door you wont!
Vacamion Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 I saw on Twitter earlier that "Monsieur" Barton was offering an opinion on the right of poor and unemployed people to express themselves. I think I'm going to stop following him. He's a bit of a tool and his nuggets of enlightenment are few are far between, contrary to reports.
Rincewind Posted 12 January 2013 Posted 12 January 2013 If you are on a low wage/part time you can claim benefits. Tax credits for eg.
Guest MattP Posted 13 January 2013 Posted 13 January 2013 My respect for Barton has just gone slightly up, that is world class trolling.
Lamby Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 Still nothing after applying for 30+ jobs this month, god dammit
Voll Blau Posted 23 January 2013 Posted 23 January 2013 In the off season yes Christ on a bike, I've got news for you. There aren't many people in this world who will never work on a Saturday, and in your position I would be bending over backwards (not literally) to appease any potential employer.
SOCCERROO FOX Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 Christ on a bike, I've got news for you. There aren't many people in this world who will never work on a Saturday, and in your position I would be bending over backwards (not literally) to appease any potential employer.
Soar Fox Posted 24 January 2013 Posted 24 January 2013 In the off season yes In a different thread you have been asking for a way of making money for a trip to Canada right? How much better and proud of yourself would you feel if you got a job (even having to work Saturdays) and were able to pay the trip of with your wages? I'm booking my summer holiday in the next couple of weeks, fortunately I had the opportunity to do some overtime last Saturday and Sunday, I didn't really want to do it but I did so when I do book my holiday i'll have half the money. Sometimes mate you have to make sacrifices. You might enjoy going to the football every week but that won't pay your bills or get you certain luxuries will it.
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