Thracian Posted 14 February 2013 Posted 14 February 2013 Thrac, I'm not having a go at him by saying he made mistakes. They were expected from the lad considering he was a striker converted to a left back and chucked in the deep end. All things considering he did well, but people DO put their blinkers on and make him out to be amazing and clearly better than Konchesky. I've been consistent in my praise for how he played at left back and that I thought he showed tremendous promise at left back. As for Whitbread, I think that has more to do with only having one other fit CB in Morgan at the time. i wasn't having a go at you, just using your point to illustrate how selective people can be with their judgement. Ironically it's the same now with Konchesky. Overall he's given us good service but now United seem to be showing interest in Schlupp, suddenly Konch is playing awful and ought to be ditched. As for Whitbread, your comment is entirely valid, but Pearson still stuck with him for quite a long time and I didn't notice people giving Whitbread the same stick they gave Schlupp for his one lapse.
Jimmy Posted 14 February 2013 Posted 14 February 2013 he is fookin training . when has training ever been a trial ? we big em up , to knock em down eh ? It is a trial he's training with their reserves and as very said will play in a couple of development games soon
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 I find this whole thing pretty incredible really and some of the reactions on here bewildering. If Man Utd see something in Schlupp, then so should we. They are masters at scouting young players and developing them, as well as bringing through their own. I DO see similarities between Schlupp and Evra, particularly in terms of pace. I get this thing about wanting to maintain what appears to be an excellent r/ship with United but I don't think we should let Schlupp go, especially not for a derisory fee. He could easily be our left back for years to come IMO. God knows why so many are willing to let him so easily and so readily. Personally, I think he's better than Konchesky now!
Father Ted Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 I find this whole thing pretty incredible really and some of the reactions on here bewildering. If Man Utd see something in Schlupp, then so should we. They are masters at scouting young players and developing them, as well as bringing through their own. I DO see similarities between Schlupp and Evra, particularly in terms of pace. I get this thing about wanting to maintain what appears to be an excellent r/ship with United but I don't think we should let Schlupp go, especially not for a derisory fee. He could easily be our left back for years to come IMO. God knows why so many are willing to let him so easily and so readily. Personally, I think he's better than Konchesky now! Bang on.
Father Ted Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 I find this whole thing pretty incredible really and some of the reactions on here bewildering. If Man Utd see something in Schlupp, then so should we. They are masters at scouting young players and developing them, as well as bringing through their own. I DO see similarities between Schlupp and Evra, particularly in terms of pace. I get this thing about wanting to maintain what appears to be an excellent r/ship with United but I don't think we should let Schlupp go, especially not for a derisory fee. He could easily be our left back for years to come IMO. God knows why so many are willing to let him so easily and so readily. Personally, I think he's better than Konchesky now! Bang on.
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 Have to agree with the most points Col makes, on the face of it, it all is a bit odd. Are we saying we will take your cast offs and loaners and you can have the pick of our youngsters to Man U ? As for knock v schulpp I feel a lot base there opionins on what they have seen on television. For the record I am not knocks biggest fan or critic, but if the midfield breaks down he can come apart when put under pressure and with one on ones, it's hard to judge schulpp as he came on as a make shift and all defenders need a run to settle and build understanding, and that gives other teams time to work them out which may be the case with schulpp. Whatever happens it is interesting.
indierich06 Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 I find this whole thing pretty incredible really and some of the reactions on here bewildering. If Man Utd see something in Schlupp, then so should we. They are masters at scouting young players and developing them, as well as bringing through their own. I DO see similarities between Schlupp and Evra, particularly in terms of pace. I get this thing about wanting to maintain what appears to be an excellent r/ship with United but I don't think we should let Schlupp go, especially not for a derisory fee. He could easily be our left back for years to come IMO. God knows why so many are willing to let him so easily and so readily. Personally, I think he's better than Konchesky now! You act like we have a choice in the matter - like we're deciding to let him go. If Man United decide they want him, then they'll get him. Who the hell are we to stand in the way of a move that every young footballer would dream of?
_Fatboyslow_ Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 You act like we have a choice in the matter - like we're deciding to let him go. If Man United decide they want him, then they'll get him. Who the hell are we to stand in the way of a move that every young footballer would dream of? Fine if they want him sell him,
Babylon Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 If Man Utd see something in Schlupp, then so should we. They are masters at scouting young players and developing them, as well as bringing through their own. I DO see similarities between Schlupp and Evra, particularly in terms of pace. Who says we don't see something in him? If the club didn't see his potential in that position they would never have played him there in the first place. It's not like we regularly play strikers at full back to fill a hole. I get this thing about wanting to maintain what appears to be an excellent r/ship with United but I don't think we should let Schlupp go, especially not for a derisory fee. He could easily be our left back for years to come IMO. You don't know what the fee would be, or who we might get coming in the opposite direction. If Man U want to sign one of our young players then they can pay the sort of fee we would have to pay for one of theirs, and a bit. You have to be realistic, this is a huge opportunity for the lad and you couldn't stand in his way. If you did you would probably be sealing the end of the relationship anyway. Personally, I think he's better than Konchesky now! Lets not go over the top here. Huge potential for growth, but they have both proven they are capable of mistakes.
Babylon Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 I didn't notice people giving Whitbread the same stick they gave Schlupp for his one lapse. They did, he got ripped a new one on hear regularly. I think Schlupp would actually get away with a lot more than he did before he got that treatment. Comments along the lines of "never want him in a Leicester shirt again" were being thrown about after a couple of his mistakes.
5waller5 Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 I find this whole thing pretty incredible really and some of the reactions on here bewildering. If Man Utd see something in Schlupp, then so should we. They are masters at scouting young players and developing them, as well as bringing through their own. I DO see similarities between Schlupp and Evra, particularly in terms of pace. I get this thing about wanting to maintain what appears to be an excellent r/ship with United but I don't think we should let Schlupp go, especially not for a derisory fee. He could easily be our left back for years to come IMO. God knows why so many are willing to let him so easily and so readily. Personally, I think he's better than Konchesky now! Oh no...... I've just found myself agreeing with every word!!!!
Guest Col city fan Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 Oh no...... I've just found myself agreeing with every word!!!! The opposite, I'm afraid, is rarely true...
Corky Posted 15 February 2013 Posted 15 February 2013 I find this whole thing pretty incredible really and some of the reactions on here bewildering. If Man Utd see something in Schlupp, then so should we. They are masters at scouting young players and developing them, as well as bringing through their own. I DO see similarities between Schlupp and Evra, particularly in terms of pace. I get this thing about wanting to maintain what appears to be an excellent r/ship with United but I don't think we should let Schlupp go, especially not for a derisory fee. He could easily be our left back for years to come IMO. God knows why so many are willing to let him so easily and so readily. Personally, I think he's better than Konchesky now! How do you know we don't? They are training him as a left-back apparently, did you think he would be a left-back before we started to play him there for the first time, or did you believe, like many others, he would be a striker? He did well in that position but remember that Konchesky was consistent for several months before Schlupp was played there. Konchesky's dipped in form lately so Schlupp might be better but you don't know for definite.
FOXMAN2 Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 How much longer have they got him there for? Must be having a real good look at him , Thats the way to do it
dog_4 Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 We do know he's better then Konchesky! kept and alot of clean sheets and Dyer was bang on form! come back Schlupp and bring Larnell cole and Powell with you!
theessexfox Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 We do know he's better then Konchesky! kept and alot of clean sheets and Dyer was bang on form! come back Schlupp and bring Larnell cole and Powell with you! Matter of opinion.
Danno Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 We do know he's better then Konchesky! kept and alot of clean sheets and Dyer was bang on form! come back Schlupp and bring Larnell cole and Powell with you! How the fvck do we know? He played about 3 games and gave away a penalty
Corky Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 Schlupp's become the new Ashley Cole since he was left out. Konchesky has, in the recent past, been a consistent performer for weeks. If Schlupp can do that for more then we can say he's better.
LeicesterAreGoingUp Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 Get him back and up front. Gives us some options!!!
Father Ted Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 Schlupp's performance vs Forest > Any Konchesky performance this season
inckley fox Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 Better than Konchesky? I'm not sure. But he is a different sort of player, who offers a different sort of attacking option down the left, in a team which appears bereft of options, and especially down the left.
Danno Posted 20 February 2013 Posted 20 February 2013 Konch has lost the plot and the fans. How has he lost the plot and the fans? You don't half post some rubbish.
indierich06 Posted 21 February 2013 Posted 21 February 2013 Seriously now Fergie, if you're not buying him, send him back and be on your way. We're not a feckin charity.
Thracian Posted 21 February 2013 Posted 21 February 2013 Seriously now Fergie, if you're not buying him, send him back and be on your way. We're not a feckin charity. Why the rush? Pearso'sn shown no signs of using him since his one big mistake at Leeds. Same as he stopped involving Moore and Gradel. Everything seems so black and white with the bloke but it wouldn't be my kind of approach. Yes, the Fergie way is to give players a taste of first team action, highlight weaknesses, withdraw them to improve and involve them if they respond. But Pearson seems to play them, withdraw them and the next time you see them there's no noticeable difference. In fact, if anything they seem to get worse. Even Andy King's got worse because we've managed to make such a positive player so comparatively negative. Schlupp got worse, Moore got worse and Gradel lost faith completely from what I saw and what he said to me when saying he had "no idea why he was constantly left out". It may be that Schlupp is being given the opportunity of a life-time - to either make it with United or to return with a far greater idea of what's required to be a proper left-back cos we don't seem to have any idea how make one and that goes back a lot further than the Pearson years. We couldn't even make one out of Alan Sheehan. When I look at our set-piece delivery now compared with what he offered by comparison i wince. Yes he was defensively vulnerable in certain ways but we simply couldn't adapt by playing to his strengths and covering for his weaknesses. How that contrasts with United. So many of their great players had major weaknesses. Gary Neville was iffy in the air and vulnerable against far post crosses. Keane was a reactionary disaster waiting to happen and Scholes was one of the worst tacklers when defending that I've ever seen. But United coped with all that and simply played to their strengths, magnified them, showed faith and turned their strengths into lethal weapons. They did the same with Ronaldo, improving him beyond recognition. It's Pearson and his staff who really need a training spell at United - to learn just how to get the best from people. Because I'm still waiting to see anyone actually improve in a Leicester first team shirt - apart perhaps from centre-back Wes Morgan.
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