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morris1234

Schlupp trial at Manchester United

By morris1234, in Leicester City Forum

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MC Prussian

MC Prussian

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Some may think it an "amazing post" but it's got more holes than a cullinder.

a) As one who laments having points twisted and grumbles about points that can't be proved this is so hypocritical. Various youth players were cited by me as better than what we had in the team at the time, nothing more nor less although I did say that King had the potential to go further if used properly and, at one stage, he scored double figures for the season more than once while he hardly ever scores now. In effect he's gone backwards. As for Sheehan and Schlupp (as you mention them), Sheehan was better than what we had yet was never fully y developed - although we rated him good enough to have another contract. And none of us can be sure of where Schlupp will find his level.

b) Pearson got us up from a place that was lower than we'd ever been before. The players you mentioned helped. But you'd expect them to at that level and I don't remember any of them improving. Brown wasted the ball as readily as he did when he joined, Dyer's key weaknesses - his one-footedness and lack of balance when shooting were never improved. Berner and Brown did important jobs for us but it didn't last once we went up.

c) Hobbs was another who was wasteful,in his distribution and that didn't change. Fryatt was always going to score his share of goals at Championship level but remain a flawed player and he's only played once this season as I can see. some improvement.

d) Yes, Morgan's done okay but is exactly the same player he's been for a while and mostly since he joined us. Knockaert did seem to improve briefly for his time here, becoming more of a team player and releasing the ball in more defensive situations, but he's gone back to being his old self now, running into blind alleys, ignoring available team-mates, being unreliable defensively and posing a singularly limited threat in front of goal for all his spectacular moments

At the risk of being accused of "banging on" about him I think he has potential but opponents seem to be roughing him up lately and he's been increasingly ineffective and when that happens our team rhythm suffers because the passing doesn't flow.

f) QED and in your own words. We've not developed anyone through to Premiership quality for years - and under Pearson we've slipped back in terms of developing anyone even to sustained Championship level although, to be fair, the standard of our team has risen. Not that the standard is an excuse.

Emerging players should be inspired and benefit from having better players around them but the involvement of the likes of Schlupp and Moore has not been sustained and I don't think they improved noticeably for their time in the team - or out of it (given that they've not returned). Whether Schlupp will break through for his United experience remains to be seen but I see no reason why not providing he gets the chance somewhere.

g) It's opinion but I don't think Knockaert's improved in recent weeks. Maybe he lost his focus with all the attention he got recently or maybe opponents have sussed how to deal with him. For me he's got to pass the ball in non-threatening situations, use his skills where they're likely to hurt and be much more of a goalscoring threat.

i) There's been lots of times Schlupp in particular could have been involved. If the kids aren't good enough it's a condemnation of the club's recruitment anyway and if they are involved and they don't break through then it's a condemnation of our internal "finishing school". Either way it's less than impressive and Pearson has to share some of the responsibility. As mentioned elsewhere, Southampton seem to get real value out of their best youngsters.

It all boils down to how some fans see the whole "develop your own youth players" system. To be fair, I can't think of many English clubs that have successfully developed several of their first-team players from their own youth setup. In fact, it seems as if buying a foreign player on the rise is oftentimes the cheaper alternative, with the club being able to potentially sell the player on for a bigger transfer fee a couple of seasons later.

It's not just an issue with Leicester City, it exists throughout the football league. And even if you have youth players coming through the ranks, they rarely set the world on fire. Before Heskey came along, it took the club about ten, eleven years to cover the period after Lineker's ascent. So in essence, it's extremely rare occurrence. And very often, I find your banging about our youth squad rather repetitious and tedious, Tony.

Besides, young players won't develop that much over the course of one half season, at least not visibly. You ought to look at the development over the period of two if not more seasons. And most of the young players we've got have not been with the club for this long yet. Again, I just don't get it that you expect almost every of our younger players to develop into an English Messi in a ridiculous short amount of time. Get a break.

Also, some of our recent opponents have discovered that they have an easy time disrupting our style of play by using a 4-5-1. Knockaert and the likes have been more ineffective thanks to that, they have been limited in their style of play. If anyone's to blame then maybe Pearson for not reacting well enough - the lack of a "Plan B" springs to mind.

Schlupp and Moore are both only 20 years old. And I can see why Pearson is putting more faith in the more experienced players we have, considering our league position. We've come this far thanks to them mainly, not thanks to the involvement of Schlupp or Moore. I do hope you can acknowledge that fact.

Munshi

Munshi

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This must be a new record for the number of words on a single page on foxestalk. Fooking dissertation thread.

lol

Is it all about corners?

ScouseFox

ScouseFox

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Nobody else slightly confused as to how our player can play for Man Utd? Never knew that was allowed.

shiv

shiv

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Nobody else slightly confused as to how our player can play for Man Utd? Never knew that was allowed.

It's an U21 game and as he's on trial it's allowed. Just like if we had someone on trial they would be allowed to play for our reserves.

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