TheUltimateWinner Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 A part of our team that needs addressing. After watching a below par performance at Huddersfield i think it's made us all realise how screwed we'd be if any of our players currently in the first team got injured. Our Cover: Defence: Moore St Ledger Whitbread Schlupp Midfield: Wellens Wingers: Dyer Gallagher Strikers: Vardy Waghorn Futacs Our defence is the only decent cover we have, and even that's pushing it due to our injury list. If we did have any injuries we'd obviously be at a disadvantage, especially up-front. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Manwell Pablo Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 http://www.foxestalk...ed/page__st__60 http://www.foxestalk...t/page__st__360 Not exactly the same thing is it. I think as cover, most of them are okish. For this division. It's when you try and play a team full of them you will encounter problems, like we did on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Not exactly the same thing is it. I think as cover, most of them are okish. For this division. It's when you try and play a team full of them you will encounter problems, like we did on Saturday. Seems like it could be a response to the how many players do we need thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry - LCFC Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Dyer has been first team on several occasions this season. Even so, he's good cover for our current players so I wouldn't regard him as a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 27 January 2013 Author Share Posted 27 January 2013 http://www.foxestalk...ed/page__st__60 http://www.foxestalk...t/page__st__360 I'm just looking for opinions on our current set of players, not looking for who people have a mancrush on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayFox Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Gary Flitcroft had the best fringe as a player..... ;0) 💂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Our fringe players are fine, when all played together they're not neccessarily great, but any one of the players who came in for that game would do an adequate job alongside ten of our usual first team players. We're spending enough already, adding more players only adds to the wage bill and potentially leaves us with a number of good championship players who are unhappy and are potentially going to cause problems. If we have injuries then we can loan players in, signing a gigantic squad and having multiple people fighting for few positions as we had last year doesn't always work, what we have at the moment has worked for the first half of the season and there's no reason to think it can't continue to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Our fringe players are fine, when all played together they're not neccessarily great, but any one of the players who came in for that game would do an adequate job alongside ten of our usual first team players. We're spending enough already, adding more players only adds to the wage bill and potentially leaves us with a number of good championship players who are unhappy and are potentially going to cause problems. If we have injuries then we can loan players in, signing a gigantic squad and having multiple people fighting for few positions as we had last year doesn't always work, what we have at the moment has worked for the first half of the season and there's no reason to think it can't continue to do so. I tend to agree Mark but it's a risky strategy really. We've seen on a few occasions now that we are not a particularly good side when key players are missing. I'd like a bit more quality in depth. I think we have a lot of 'average' players in the squad, perhaps too many actually? But quality in depth IS lacking and I hope it don't come back to bite us on the bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rico Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Gary Flitcroft had the best fringe as a player..... ;0) à½Ã²‚ Gazzas was better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swalker Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 A part of our team that needs addressing. After watching a below par performance at Huddersfield i think it's made us all realise how screwed we'd be if any of our players currently in the first team got injured. Our Cover: Defence: Moore St Ledger Whitbread Schlupp Midfield: Wellens Wingers: Dyer Gallagher Strikers: Vardy Waghorn Futacs Our defence is the only decent cover we have, and even that's pushing it due to our injury list. If we did have any injuries we'd obviously be at a disadvantage, especially up-front. Thoughts? you missed in midfield whichever of drinky/james/king isn't playing will also be cover as we only really play 2 of them 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Tricky to sign better player who is happy to be benched, or better player who then benches one of the current 1st 11. Potentially leading to sniping from the sidelines & one rotten apple sending the rest off like happened before NP got to grips with everything. Season to date we have the 2nd best squad in the division, automatic promotion is in our own hands. I think we could benefit from more quality, but carrying it off in this division is extremely tricky, when improving on what we have would mean automatic start in many other clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Tricky to sign better player who is happy to be benched, or better player who then benches one of the current 1st 11. Potentially leading to sniping from the sidelines & one rotten apple sending the rest off like happened before NP got with everything. Season to date we have the 2nd best squad in the division, automatic promotion is in our own hands. I think we could benefit from more quality, but carrying it off in this division is extremely tricky, when improving on what we have would mean automatic start in many other clubs. That makes sense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox92 Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Moore, St Ledger, Schlupp and Futacs are the stand-out names for me... Nugent and Wood, in particular, don't need any worries for their places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark_w Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 I tend to agree Mark but it's a risky strategy really. We've seen on a few occasions now that we are not a particularly good side when key players are missing. I'd like a bit more quality in depth. I think we have a lot of 'average' players in the squad, perhaps too many actually? But quality in depth IS lacking and I hope it don't come back to bite us on the bum. I think bringing in more players who would generally expect to be starters (as I think the majority of players who are of a higher standard than our fringe players would), is equally risky and a lot more expensive to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col city fan Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 I think bringing in more players who would generally expect to be starters (as I think the majority of players who are of a higher standard than our fringe players would), is equally risky and a lot more expensive to be honest. If we get promoted Nige may well have to learn how to manage this side of the game. The expectation will have to be that we have a squad containing an overall better standard of player than we have now. Wellens, Vardy, maybe even King won't be good enough to play consistently well at Prem level. I agree with you, maybe we are just about good enough now. But if we go up, Nige will have to manage a squad of generally better players, with some being 'fringed' so to speak. That would be interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfox Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Adding depth to our squad surely can't do no harm, many teams have more players than us, many teams have more loan players than us, we only have one loan player in Keane, so adding more wouldn't go a miss. At one stage earlier this season, we only had about 19 regular players, as some were out on loan like Gallagher, Wellens and Danns. The defence is good enough, and our depth in that position is really good, I would trust the likes of Moore, St Ledger and Schlupp if they happened to start games later in the season. Midfield though is a worry, we have three very good central midfielders, but all teams around us have more, Wellens isn't good enough anymore, while wing wise Dyer and Marshall are too inconsistent someone in on loan in that position wouldn't go a miss. Up front, Wood, Nugent and Waggy are the main three, and I would be happy if any of those three started, but when it comes to Vardy and Futacs, one isn't good enough and one really wants first team football. Vardy isn't good enough and should be loaned out, Futacs wants first team football so selling him wouldn't be a bad thing. Even though Nugent and Wood are firing, teams around us have better quality to bring off the bench, especially in the forward role. Cardiff - Helguson, Campbell, Bellamy, Mason, Velikonja, Maynard Hull - Simpson, Fryatt, Aluko, Proschwitz Watford - Deeney, Vydra, Geijo, Forestieri Crystal P - Murray, Zaha, Easter, Wilbraham, Nimely Middlesbrough - McDonald, Emnes, Jutkiewicz, Miller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Adding depth to our squad surely can't do no harm, many teams have more players than us, many teams have more loan players than us, we only have one loan player in Keane, so adding more wouldn't go a miss. At one stage earlier this season, we only had about 19 regular players, as some were out on loan like Gallagher, Wellens and Danns. The defence is good enough, and our depth in that position is really good, I would trust the likes of Moore, St Ledger and Schlupp if they happened to start games later in the season. Midfield though is a worry, we have three very good central midfielders, but all teams around us have more, Wellens isn't good enough anymore, while wing wise Dyer and Marshall are too inconsistent someone in on loan in that position wouldn't go a miss. Up front, Wood, Nugent and Waggy are the main three, and I would be happy if any of those three started, but when it comes to Vardy and Futacs, one isn't good enough and one really wants first team football. Vardy isn't good enough and should be loaned out, Futacs wants first team football so selling him wouldn't be a bad thing. Even though Nugent and Wood are firing, teams around us have better quality to bring off the bench, especially in the forward role. Cardiff - Helguson, Campbell, Bellamy, Mason, Velikonja, Maynard Hull - Simpson, Fryatt, Aluko, Proschwitz Watford - Deeney, Vydra, Geijo, Forestieri Crystal P - Murray, Zaha, Easter, Wilbraham, Nimely Middlesbrough - McDonald, Emnes, Jutkiewicz, Miller Honestly I only envy the list of Cardiff forwards there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 We definitley don't need another striker until the summer. Adding depth to our squad surely can't do no harm, many teams have more players than us, many teams have more loan players than us, we only have one loan player in Keane, so adding more wouldn't go a miss. At one stage earlier this season, we only had about 19 regular players, as some were out on loan like Gallagher, Wellens and Danns. The defence is good enough, and our depth in that position is really good, I would trust the likes of Moore, St Ledger and Schlupp if they happened to start games later in the season. Midfield though is a worry, we have three very good central midfielders, but all teams around us have more, Wellens isn't good enough anymore, while wing wise Dyer and Marshall are too inconsistent someone in on loan in that position wouldn't go a miss. Up front, Wood, Nugent and Waggy are the main three, and I would be happy if any of those three started, but when it comes to Vardy and Futacs, one isn't good enough and one really wants first team football. Vardy isn't good enough and should be loaned out, Futacs wants first team football so selling him wouldn't be a bad thing. Even though Nugent and Wood are firing, teams around us have better quality to bring off the bench, especially in the forward role. Cardiff - Helguson, Campbell, Bellamy, Mason, Velikonja, Maynard Hull - Simpson, Fryatt, Aluko, Proschwitz Watford - Deeney, Vydra, Geijo, Forestieri Crystal P - Murray, Zaha, Easter, Wilbraham, Nimely Middlesbrough - McDonald, Emnes, Jutkiewicz, Miller You've named some very strange, and in some cases very injured, players there, I have to say. We don't need another striker, unless one's leaving, and I can't see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Some might argue that our 'second string' would have a chance in this division- Logan, Moore, Whitbread, St. Ledger, Schlupp, Gallagher, King, Wellens, Dyer, Futacs, Waghorn Perhaps that should be the team for the replay, if they're all available and we're worried about fixture congestion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGLCFC Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 We do need another striker, if not two. Waghorn, Vardy and Futacs are average at best, even Forest have a better set of strikers than us in Sharp, Cox, Blackstock and Henderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Some might argue that our 'second string' would have a chance in this division- Logan, Moore, Whitbread, St. Ledger, Schlupp, Gallagher, King, Wellens, Dyer, Futacs, Waghorn Perhaps that should be the team for the replay, if they're all available and we're worried about fixture congestion. Logan is an appauling excuse for a goal keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 Logan is an appauling excuse for a goal keeper. I'm not a fan, but he's not alone at being appalling in this league and, at 26, a goalkeeper can still improve. He's got some experience in this league, been a regular at League One level and impressed a few people when he won promotion from League Two a few years back. I doubt we can expect much more for cover and I daresay there's been a few worse keepers than him pull on a jersey in this league this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manwell Pablo Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 I'm not a fan, but he's not alone at being appalling in this league and, at 26, a goalkeeper can still improve. He's got some experience in this league, been a regular at League One level and impressed a few people when he won promotion from League Two a few years back. I doubt we can expect much more for cover and I daresay there's been a few worse keepers than him pull on a jersey in this league this season. I've seen far to much of Conrad playing first team football to think he'll ever be good enough to play in this division. Postioning is awful, and whilst he isn't the worst shot stopper due to his size he pushes too many back out into dangerous areas. I'd like to think he is here purely to take over temporarily if Schemical was to be sent off or injured. Should he be missing for any decent length of time I would hope we'd be in the emergency loan market straight away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxesfan1989 Posted 27 January 2013 Share Posted 27 January 2013 I would get rid of Wellens, Vardy and Beckford. Don't think they are good enough for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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