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Hmm. Similar foreign policy rhetoric perhaps but nothing more. Other than the Falklands Thatcher proved pretty weak on foreign policy. She signed up to the Single European Act which remains the biggest giveaway of powers to Europe by this country before or since. And for all her anti-IRA bluster she was the first UK PM to agree shared powers over Northern Ireland with the Republic. Most of her foreign policy approach was to talk bollocks in an attempt to whip up patriotic fervour in order to distract people from her economic policies. It worked, in all fairness to the bitch.

Thatcher fought Europe throughout her tenure and occasionally had to give in under the weight of pressure, as I'm sure you're aware, you are just attempting to paint things to suit your argument. Thatchers anti European stance was what eventually bought about her exit from office so I don't really think you can ever accuse her being weak in that regard.

Again, I don't think you could ever claim her policy's towards Ireland were weak, if anything I'd say her policy's swang to much in the other direction.

And then there is the relationship with Regan, which was very Churchill esque.

Don't get me wrong I am not pro Thatcher, If anything I am anti thatcher I quite enjoyed my free milk and one day is went, that's the only direct effect she ever had on me. However I am not going to raise a glass to her long term suffering and death as a result. It's ridiculous

Posted

Comparing Hitler to Thatcher is libellous. Which is why I didn't do it. I raised a rhetorical question to get somebody thinking about the flaws in their argument.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I know what you were getting at, but frankly, if a retired Hitler had died today, I wouldn't be celebrating, I just wouldn't really give a shit.

I don't remember people being this joyous when they got Bin Laden or Hussein.

Certain people have been so typical of themselves in this thread.

Posted

Geez some strong things said on here tonight, don't really know too much about her reign but I'm aware she had to make a lot of unpopular decisions. RIP Thatcher, icon of the nation.

Guest ttfn
Posted

So you were 2 when she was booted out of power?

Hmm. You seem to know loads.

I was born in September 1987. So I was 3. As I said above.

Thanks for the maths lesson Carol Vorderman.

Posted

Comparing Hitler to Thatcher is libellous. Which is why I didn't do it. I raised a rhetorical question to get somebody thinking about the flaws in their argument.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

You can say that as much as you want, wont change the fact that you did, by your own admission you made a analogy, which is to say there is a a comparison or similarity between two things :unsure:

Posted

I was replying to ttfun and not Jimbo

I don't think he was talking about me - he was talking about ttfn.

ps I'm 29!

Sorry guys, my bad.

Posted

I disapprove of you celebrating the death of an old lady with dementia.

It's of course your prerogative. Doesn't mean it's not pathetic.

As I said - that's your opinion: So the fvck what?

Yes, I'm celebrating the death of an old cvnt who died of a stroke. I don't give a shit how much it offends you or anyone else...in fact, the more offense it cause the happier it makes me.

Guest Bilo
Posted

Just in case people haven't grasped it yet.

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Posted

Now that she's moved on can we rally against the evil that is Alan Carr? How can one man be so annoying?

To think he is the lovechild of ex Leicester superstar loanee Franz Carr makes me sick

ps not really, he's the son of ex-Maidstone United manager.

Posted

You can say that as much as you want, wont change the fact that you did, by your own admission you made a analogy, which is to say there is a a comparison or similarity between two things :unsure:

Or, you know, he could have been comparing people judging Thatcher despite not being alive when she was in power, with people judging Hitler despite not being around when he was in power...

Posted

Think you need your head looking at mate, despite the fact you dislike her your certainly wrong for this post!

And I don't give a flying fvck about your opinion either. Thanks for the extra laugh.

Guest Bilo
Posted

You can say that as much as you want, wont change the fact that you did, by your own admission you made a analogy, which is to say there is a a comparison or similarity between two things :unsure:

The only similarity is that of criticising somebody you were too young to have experienced first hand.

Similarity begins and ends there. Webbo wasn't about when Hitler was, The Doctor wasn't about when Thatcher was.

That's the similarity. End. Finish. No similarity between their policies. No similarity in their level of cvntishness. None. Nada. Nil. Zip. Zero.

I can compare catching a cold with contracting AIDS because both are viruses. It'd be pretty fvcking frivolous to do it though, and I won't be going to Sub Saharan Africa seeking sympathy next time I get a sniffle.

It's not difficult.

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Guest ttfn
Posted

Comparing Hitler to Thatcher is libellous. Which is why I didn't do it. I raised a rhetorical question to get somebody thinking about the flaws in their argument.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

I did not compare Thatcher to Hitler.

Ok, I've just re-read your post.

You're right you didn't. And actually I have re-read the 3 pages of nonsense that follows it. You made an analogy, which as others have said involves comparison by its very definition.

The point stands nonetheless. You were saying that it is not invalid to have an opinion to the extent that you would feel strongly about somebody's death on a matter in which you didn't live through. That is obviously correct.

But by using Hitler you were obviously using an extreme example.

I can't imagine that Thatcher can possibly have done enough to offend anybody under the age of 30 whose parents or immediate family were not hit by her policies to elicit such an emotive response out of anything other than bandwagon-jumping spite.

Hitler on the other hand was objectively evil.

I'm sorry for misquoting you.

Posted

Everyone who's criticising Daggers here and struggling atop their favourite high horse (relocating from their Pearson-fence) needs to actually understand.

He. Does. Not. Care.

And in fairness, why should he care what you think?

Why do you all care so much what he thinks?

Those who are down in the dumps about it? Good for you - you are really good people. Hope you feel super smashing great, never fall off your high horse (seems its a long fall for some!)

Those who are partying, great, enjoy yourselves. YOLO!

Those who don't really care - again great.

No one is going to convince anyone else, so lets just debate which of the Coors we'd all like to spend a night with and who on here is most likely to go for the fella.

Posted

As I said - that's your opinion: So the fvck what?

Yes, I'm celebrating the death of an old cvnt who died of a stroke. I don't give a shit how much it offends you or anyone else...in fact, the more offense it cause the happier it makes me.

I never realised you were such a badass.

Posted

And I don't give a flying fvck about your opinion either. Thanks for the extra laugh.

You poking fun at someone having a stroke is a laugh? Never mind who it is your just a scumbag for it mate if I'm honest, people have died because of the after effects of it.

Posted

Everyone who's criticising Daggers here and struggling atop their favourite high horse (relocating from their Pearson-fence) needs to actually understand.

He. Does. Not. Care.

He doesn't, he really doesn't. Not even when hypocritical Mods go onto other forums to call him a cvnt - he still doesn't care. Not even when people complaining about the gif he posted re-post his gif to demonstrate how upset they are with his gif...not even then does he care.

Posted

No one here knew her. She was eighty odd. She was alive, now she's dead.

Is it that offensive?

As Dylan once mused, I don't have any regrets. They can talk about me plenty when I'm gone.

I'll drink to that.

Posted

Surely you can "compare" anything with anything else.

it's "likening" them that becomes a problem ,

Shall I compare thee to a Summer's day?

Thou art more lovely and more temperate:

Rough winds do shake the darling buds of May,

And Summer's lease hath all too short a date .................. if you're saying that Shakespeare bloke was a bit crap, you'll get no argument from me.

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