Is the City of Leicester a dump?

[Wymsey]

Be careful with Pay-And-Display machines..

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvglz8pyjzno

 

[Parafox]

21 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Be careful with Pay-And-Display machines..

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvglz8pyjzno

 

 

These machines are an easy target for scammers. There's loads of them all over the country and everyone is vulnerable, myself included , until a recent event where my bank contacted me regarding an unauthorised payment from a Pay by Phone location which I had never visited, although I had used Pay by Phone locally a few days previously.

 

Nothing is safe from cyber theft, even for the relatively tech savvy. 

 

The number of cashless options for paying has skyrocketed since Covid and along with that the opportunities for "cashless" theft.

Edited 12 October 2024 by Parafox

[Tommy G]

Just been to wicksteed park in Kettering, makes Leicester seem desirable as a comparison. 
 

What an absolute dump that place is. 

[Parafox]

2 hours ago, Tommy G said:

Just been to wicksteed park in Kettering, makes Leicester seem desirable as a comparison. 
 

What an absolute dump that place is. 

 

It used to be THE  best non-theme park in the East Mids as it was cheap, basic and good fun with few frills, but enough to keep kids entertained. It had a concert/ ballroom, and a reasonable restaurant.

 

I used to go there about 60 years ago and it is a place that I have fond memories of, as a kid of 8-9 yrs old and 60 years later, the train, the water chute, the slides, the bumper cars and the little cars on a track are still there. I think that the water chute has some kind of preservation order on it.

 

Now, however, it's very dated. It only keeps going (I think) as it's held in a trust by the Wicksteed family. I reckon once that trust agreement ends, it'll be sold off and developed for housing. 

[Tommy G]

Just now, Parafox said:

 

It used to be THE  best non-theme park in the East Mids as it was cheap, basic and good fun with few frills, but enough to keep kids entertained. It had a concert/ ballroom, and a reasonable restaurant.

 

I used to go there about 60 years ago and it is a place that I have fond memories of, as a kid of 8-9 yrs old and 60 years later, the train, the water chute, the slides, the bumper cars and the little cars on a track are still there. I think that the water chute has some kind of preservation order on it.

 

Now, however, it's very dated. It only keeps going (I think) as it's held in a trust by the Wicksteed family. I reckon once that trust agreement ends, it'll be sold off and developed for housing. 

I was on about the area! But yeh, the park is ok for a few hours….on par with twinlakes 

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

I was on about the area! But yeh, the park is ok for a few hours….on par with twinlakes 

 

Kettering? Yeah, the pits. Even the A&E is shite.

 

Sorry @Daggers

Edited 13 October 2024 by Parafox

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/new-plan-revealed-leicester-market-9668309

 

New plan revealed for Leicester Market as council does U-turn
A consultation has opened

ByTess RushinLocal Democracy Reporter
11:21, 28 OCT 2024Updated12:25, 28 OCT 2024

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An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)

A new plan for Leicester Market has been unveiled today. The proposal is a U-turn on a possible scheme outlined by city mayor Sir Peter Soulsby earlier this year, when he put the planned regeneration of the 700-year-old market on hold.

At the time, Sir Peter said the removal of the market’s roof had revealed the “huge potential” of the space formerly occupied by the stalls, and opened up views of the historic buildings lining the square. He suggested that the space could be kept clear and the stalls relocated to a new home elsewhere in the city centre.

However, the city council is now proposing a scheme that would both see the market return to its old site and a new event space created. A consultation on the idea has opened today (Monday, October 28).

 

Sir Peter said today: “When I asked for work to be paused so we could reconsider the potential for this wonderful site, I put forward a proposal to relocate the market and transform the market place into a space that would become the focal point for festivals, events and celebrations in Leicester.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
“While this was welcomed by many people – including local businesses and representatives of the heritage sector – it was clear that the market traders themselves felt strongly about returning to the site where they’d stood for generations. Our design team has now come up with a scheme that would allow the market to return to the traders’ favoured site, while keeping the market place as a flexible space for public events – as it was for hundreds of years.

“We’re now inviting the market traders and people in Leicester to comment on this new proposal. Their feedback will help inform the final decision, paving the way for a scheme that I hope will bring new life to Leicester’s market place and help regenerate the wider area.”

The new proposed home for the market is in a "light and airy structure" next to the existing food hall, said a council spokesperson. Automated shutters would secure the market when it was not in use, and its 48 stalls could be fully dismantled and cleared away to provide room for a bar area, for example, if the event space was being used for an outdoor concert, they added.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
"The whole site would be paved in high-quality porphyry, with colourful planters helping to create an attractive, versatile event space that could host festivals, live music or speciality markets," said the spokesperson. "With food and drink driving footfall to markets across the country, and to complement the range of produce on sale in the neighbouring food hall, it’s proposed that the new market would also be food-focused, with stalls prioritised for those selling fruit, vegetables and high-quality food from around the world."

Sir Peter said: “Food is already the cornerstone of what’s on offer at Leicester Market, with around two-thirds of the occupied stalls selling fruit, vegetables and other foods. This redevelopment would give us an opportunity to build on that. A broader range of quality produce, featuring baked goods or street food, for example, could help shape the vibrant market we all want to create.

"So I’m convinced that Leicester Market does have a bright future. Our role now is to create the right environment for it to thrive – and ensure it provides a unique shopping experience that attracts both visitors and regular shoppers.”

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
If approved, the new market building is expected to be open by spring/summer 2027. Traders could continue to operate from Green Dragon Square until then, the city council said.

The consultation can be found by visiting Leicester City Council's website and searching for 'consultations'. People can comment until Monday, December 9.

[davieG]

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/highcross-unveils-plans-refurb-bland-9667121

 

Highcross unveils plans for refurb of 'bland' and 'out of place' entrances
The centre said the new designs would 'revitalise' the four entrances

ByBen Carr
08:07, 28 OCT 2024

An artist's impression of how the High Street could look (Image: Highcross)
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Leicester's Highcross has revealed plans to change the look of its four city centre entrances. The shopping centre said the new designs would “revitalise” and “enhance its visibility”.

Taking inspiration from Leicester’s fashion and textiles history, the four entrances in East Gates, High Street, and New Bond Street could be reimagined to become “urban landmarks”, a spokesperson for the centre said. Planning documents submitted this month reveal that the main entrance in East Gates will take on a “curtain reveal” concept.

The entrance with the next highest footfall, High Street, will aim to replicate the look of a “red carpet” being unrolled, while the entrances in Church Gate and New Bond Street will be moulded to look like “folded pleats of a skirt”. Subject to approval, work could begin in Spring 2025.

The aim of redeveloped East Gates entrances is to look like a curtain reveal (Image: K.COOPER / Highcross)
Planning documents, prepared on behalf of Highcross, called the existing entrances “bland” with a presence that “fails to resonate with the city’s diverse urban fabric”. The canopy and signage of the East Gates entrance were called “unclear and inadequate”, which meant that it was “difficult to identify and navigate while competing with the surrounding heritage assets”, like nearby Grade II listed buildings.

Plans for the nearby High Street entrance revealed that Highcross wants to demolish the existing structure there, whereas “alterations” will be made to the other three entrances. Documents said the current signage, canopy and “entrance mall” made it “feel out of place compared to the architectural quality of the High Street”.

While the Church Gate entrance was described as currently having “a detrimental impact on the surrounding conservation area”. The New Bond Street gateway into the centre was said to “present a neutral / minor level of harm on the conservation area”.

The existing East Gates entrance was described as 'bland' (Image: Google)
The redevelopment will be carried out in phases “so that shoppers will face minimal disruption”, a spokeswoman said, and is expected to take approximately six months to complete. Highcross said that all of the entrances are expected to be open, as normal, in time for the festive season in 2025.

Jeremy Lees, director at Savills, said the proposals were evidence of Highcross’ “commitment” to improving the experience of shoppers in the city. He said: “We’re thrilled to finally reveal our vision for the redevelopment of Highcross’ entrances.

“If approved, these plans are the first of a number of exciting developments set to take place at Highcross over the next 12-months, with more to be revealed in the near future. The plans are a demonstration of our commitment to continue to build on the shopping and leisure experience here in Leicester, while also working with important stakeholders to ensure that the city centre feels a safe and welcoming space that everyone can enjoy for many years to come.”

[MaidstoneFox]

4 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/new-plan-revealed-leicester-market-9668309

 

New plan revealed for Leicester Market as council does U-turn
A consultation has opened

ByTess RushinLocal Democracy Reporter
11:21, 28 OCT 2024Updated12:25, 28 OCT 2024

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An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)

A new plan for Leicester Market has been unveiled today. The proposal is a U-turn on a possible scheme outlined by city mayor Sir Peter Soulsby earlier this year, when he put the planned regeneration of the 700-year-old market on hold.

At the time, Sir Peter said the removal of the market’s roof had revealed the “huge potential” of the space formerly occupied by the stalls, and opened up views of the historic buildings lining the square. He suggested that the space could be kept clear and the stalls relocated to a new home elsewhere in the city centre.

However, the city council is now proposing a scheme that would both see the market return to its old site and a new event space created. A consultation on the idea has opened today (Monday, October 28).

 

Sir Peter said today: “When I asked for work to be paused so we could reconsider the potential for this wonderful site, I put forward a proposal to relocate the market and transform the market place into a space that would become the focal point for festivals, events and celebrations in Leicester.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
“While this was welcomed by many people – including local businesses and representatives of the heritage sector – it was clear that the market traders themselves felt strongly about returning to the site where they’d stood for generations. Our design team has now come up with a scheme that would allow the market to return to the traders’ favoured site, while keeping the market place as a flexible space for public events – as it was for hundreds of years.

“We’re now inviting the market traders and people in Leicester to comment on this new proposal. Their feedback will help inform the final decision, paving the way for a scheme that I hope will bring new life to Leicester’s market place and help regenerate the wider area.”

The new proposed home for the market is in a "light and airy structure" next to the existing food hall, said a council spokesperson. Automated shutters would secure the market when it was not in use, and its 48 stalls could be fully dismantled and cleared away to provide room for a bar area, for example, if the event space was being used for an outdoor concert, they added.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
"The whole site would be paved in high-quality porphyry, with colourful planters helping to create an attractive, versatile event space that could host festivals, live music or speciality markets," said the spokesperson. "With food and drink driving footfall to markets across the country, and to complement the range of produce on sale in the neighbouring food hall, it’s proposed that the new market would also be food-focused, with stalls prioritised for those selling fruit, vegetables and high-quality food from around the world."

Sir Peter said: “Food is already the cornerstone of what’s on offer at Leicester Market, with around two-thirds of the occupied stalls selling fruit, vegetables and other foods. This redevelopment would give us an opportunity to build on that. A broader range of quality produce, featuring baked goods or street food, for example, could help shape the vibrant market we all want to create.

"So I’m convinced that Leicester Market does have a bright future. Our role now is to create the right environment for it to thrive – and ensure it provides a unique shopping experience that attracts both visitors and regular shoppers.”

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
If approved, the new market building is expected to be open by spring/summer 2027. Traders could continue to operate from Green Dragon Square until then, the city council said.

The consultation can be found by visiting Leicester City Council's website and searching for 'consultations'. People can comment until Monday, December 9.

Looks more like Sevilla than Leicester

[Tommy G]

5 minutes ago, MaidstoneFox said:

Looks more like Sevilla than Leicester

Probably a good thing 

[Paninistickers]

5 hours ago, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/new-plan-revealed-leicester-market-9668309

 

New plan revealed for Leicester Market as council does U-turn
A consultation has opened

ByTess RushinLocal Democracy Reporter
11:21, 28 OCT 2024Updated12:25, 28 OCT 2024

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An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)

A new plan for Leicester Market has been unveiled today. The proposal is a U-turn on a possible scheme outlined by city mayor Sir Peter Soulsby earlier this year, when he put the planned regeneration of the 700-year-old market on hold.

At the time, Sir Peter said the removal of the market’s roof had revealed the “huge potential” of the space formerly occupied by the stalls, and opened up views of the historic buildings lining the square. He suggested that the space could be kept clear and the stalls relocated to a new home elsewhere in the city centre.

However, the city council is now proposing a scheme that would both see the market return to its old site and a new event space created. A consultation on the idea has opened today (Monday, October 28).

 

Sir Peter said today: “When I asked for work to be paused so we could reconsider the potential for this wonderful site, I put forward a proposal to relocate the market and transform the market place into a space that would become the focal point for festivals, events and celebrations in Leicester.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
“While this was welcomed by many people – including local businesses and representatives of the heritage sector – it was clear that the market traders themselves felt strongly about returning to the site where they’d stood for generations. Our design team has now come up with a scheme that would allow the market to return to the traders’ favoured site, while keeping the market place as a flexible space for public events – as it was for hundreds of years.

“We’re now inviting the market traders and people in Leicester to comment on this new proposal. Their feedback will help inform the final decision, paving the way for a scheme that I hope will bring new life to Leicester’s market place and help regenerate the wider area.”

The new proposed home for the market is in a "light and airy structure" next to the existing food hall, said a council spokesperson. Automated shutters would secure the market when it was not in use, and its 48 stalls could be fully dismantled and cleared away to provide room for a bar area, for example, if the event space was being used for an outdoor concert, they added.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
"The whole site would be paved in high-quality porphyry, with colourful planters helping to create an attractive, versatile event space that could host festivals, live music or speciality markets," said the spokesperson. "With food and drink driving footfall to markets across the country, and to complement the range of produce on sale in the neighbouring food hall, it’s proposed that the new market would also be food-focused, with stalls prioritised for those selling fruit, vegetables and high-quality food from around the world."

Sir Peter said: “Food is already the cornerstone of what’s on offer at Leicester Market, with around two-thirds of the occupied stalls selling fruit, vegetables and other foods. This redevelopment would give us an opportunity to build on that. A broader range of quality produce, featuring baked goods or street food, for example, could help shape the vibrant market we all want to create.

"So I’m convinced that Leicester Market does have a bright future. Our role now is to create the right environment for it to thrive – and ensure it provides a unique shopping experience that attracts both visitors and regular shoppers.”

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
If approved, the new market building is expected to be open by spring/summer 2027. Traders could continue to operate from Green Dragon Square until then, the city council said.

The consultation can be found by visiting Leicester City Council's website and searching for 'consultations'. People can comment until Monday, December 9.

Bit of a cop out. I'd have preferred Soulsby to have stuck to his guns and created a fully open plaza. But it's understandable he's hedged his bets, given the furore. 

 

If the market can be upgraded and be much more artisan and farmer's market feel (a.little like the surprisingly excellent indoor market) ....then it may well.work. But the cheap shit vibe I've known all my life would be better located and suites  to the Humberstone or Belgrave Gate immigrant areas 

[MaidstoneFox]

21 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

Bit of a cop out. I'd have preferred Soulsby to have stuck to his guns and created a fully open plaza. But it's understandable he's hedged his bets, given the furore. 

 

If the market can be upgraded and be much more artisan and farmer's market feel (a.little like the surprisingly excellent indoor market) ....then it may well.work. But the cheap shit vibe I've known all my life would be better located and suites  to the Humberstone or Belgrave Gate immigrant areas 

Back in the day, it used to be a good place to get second hand crombies and similar.

[boots60]

On 28/10/2024 at 13:31, davieG said:

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/new-plan-revealed-leicester-market-9668309

 

New plan revealed for Leicester Market as council does U-turn
A consultation has opened

ByTess RushinLocal Democracy Reporter
11:21, 28 OCT 2024Updated12:25, 28 OCT 2024

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An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)

A new plan for Leicester Market has been unveiled today. The proposal is a U-turn on a possible scheme outlined by city mayor Sir Peter Soulsby earlier this year, when he put the planned regeneration of the 700-year-old market on hold.

At the time, Sir Peter said the removal of the market’s roof had revealed the “huge potential” of the space formerly occupied by the stalls, and opened up views of the historic buildings lining the square. He suggested that the space could be kept clear and the stalls relocated to a new home elsewhere in the city centre.

However, the city council is now proposing a scheme that would both see the market return to its old site and a new event space created. A consultation on the idea has opened today (Monday, October 28).

 

Sir Peter said today: “When I asked for work to be paused so we could reconsider the potential for this wonderful site, I put forward a proposal to relocate the market and transform the market place into a space that would become the focal point for festivals, events and celebrations in Leicester.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
“While this was welcomed by many people – including local businesses and representatives of the heritage sector – it was clear that the market traders themselves felt strongly about returning to the site where they’d stood for generations. Our design team has now come up with a scheme that would allow the market to return to the traders’ favoured site, while keeping the market place as a flexible space for public events – as it was for hundreds of years.

“We’re now inviting the market traders and people in Leicester to comment on this new proposal. Their feedback will help inform the final decision, paving the way for a scheme that I hope will bring new life to Leicester’s market place and help regenerate the wider area.”

The new proposed home for the market is in a "light and airy structure" next to the existing food hall, said a council spokesperson. Automated shutters would secure the market when it was not in use, and its 48 stalls could be fully dismantled and cleared away to provide room for a bar area, for example, if the event space was being used for an outdoor concert, they added.

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
"The whole site would be paved in high-quality porphyry, with colourful planters helping to create an attractive, versatile event space that could host festivals, live music or speciality markets," said the spokesperson. "With food and drink driving footfall to markets across the country, and to complement the range of produce on sale in the neighbouring food hall, it’s proposed that the new market would also be food-focused, with stalls prioritised for those selling fruit, vegetables and high-quality food from around the world."

Sir Peter said: “Food is already the cornerstone of what’s on offer at Leicester Market, with around two-thirds of the occupied stalls selling fruit, vegetables and other foods. This redevelopment would give us an opportunity to build on that. A broader range of quality produce, featuring baked goods or street food, for example, could help shape the vibrant market we all want to create.

"So I’m convinced that Leicester Market does have a bright future. Our role now is to create the right environment for it to thrive – and ensure it provides a unique shopping experience that attracts both visitors and regular shoppers.”

An artist's impression shows how the revamped market place could look (Image: Leicester City Council)
If approved, the new market building is expected to be open by spring/summer 2027. Traders could continue to operate from Green Dragon Square until then, the city council said.

The consultation can be found by visiting Leicester City Council's website and searching for 'consultations'. People can comment until Monday, December 9.

Wetherspoons has never looked so good.

[SecretPro]

Standard New Walk now. Have already stopped cutting through Vicky Park on the way home now it's dark given the several dozen robberies there last Autumn and Winter.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/group-balaclavas-attack-rob-man-9694668

 

[Lako42]

16 hours ago, SecretPro said:

Standard New Walk now. Have already stopped cutting through Vicky Park on the way home now it's dark given the several dozen robberies there last Autumn and Winter.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/group-balaclavas-attack-rob-man-9694668

 

Cowards 

[davieG]

7 C0-OP stores to shut  - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/seven-co-op-stores-across-9698396

 

• Evington Road, Leicester
• Narborough Road, Leicester,
• Hallcroft in Shepshed
• Station Road in Narborough
• Blaby Road in Wigston
• Pochin Street in Croft
• Mill Lane in Enderby

[boots60]

"financially unsustainable"

 

Mrs Boots works in my local co-op, a village store by the way, & the tales I hear of blatant shoplifting, thieves not even bothered to try & hide what they're doing spring immediately to mind. They know they can get away with anything with no repercussions whatsoever.

A few are genuinely needy people trying to feed their family but the majority are on the rob purely for financial gain & this is growing all the time.

I believe more local businesses will go to the wall in the near future & local shops will be a thing of the past before too long.

Edited 8 November 2024 by boots60

[Parafox]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

7 C0-OP stores to shut  - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/seven-co-op-stores-across-9698396

 

• Evington Road, Leicester
• Narborough Road, Leicester,
• Hallcroft in Shepshed
• Station Road in Narborough
• Blaby Road in Wigston
• Pochin Street in Croft
• Mill Lane in Enderby

 

And yet Desford has 2 Co-Ops. Go figure.

[Parafox]

2 hours ago, boots60 said:

"financially unsustainable"

 

Mrs Boots works in my local co-op, a village store by the way, & the tales I hear of blatant shoplifting, thieves not even bothered to try & hide what they're doing spring immediately to mind. They know they can get away with anything with no repercussions whatsoever.

A few are genuinely needy people trying to feed their family but the majority are on the rob purely for financial gain & this is growing all the time.

I believe more local businesses will go to the wall in the near future & local shops will be a thing of the past before too long.

 

I think it's more likely that "local shops for local people" (yes, I know the series) will become more combined general stores/post offices/parcel receipt/return points and in that way will serve the close community in which they have a presence. 

 

The local shop, in terms of an independent shopkeeper, will likely succumb to franchises such as Nisa, GoLocal, OneStop etc and your friendly neighbourhood grocer who knows you by name, will either have to become a franchisee or sell out to another who will.

Edited 8 November 2024 by Parafox

[SecretPro]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

7 C0-OP stores to shut  - https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/seven-co-op-stores-across-9698396

 

• Evington Road, Leicester
• Narborough Road, Leicester,
• Hallcroft in Shepshed
• Station Road in Narborough
• Blaby Road in Wigston
• Pochin Street in Croft
• Mill Lane in Enderby

I'm not surprised Co op are failing

 

Co Op on London Road is a free for all. I see the same 4 or 5 characters rob it blind most weeks at some point. The other week a lad filled two baskets and staff just told him to hurry up and get out. They got rid of the security guy in the end because he wasnt allowed to challenge theives so it was pointless. The staff just routinely ask them to leave and let them take the goods, said they do nothing about it if it’s under £500 worth. Also said they are targeted about 4 times a day and lose about £7,000 a week. That's not sustainable. Exactly the same at the small Tesco near the Abberdale pub too I'm told. 

Edited 8 November 2024 by SecretPro

[steve555]

The wife works in the local co-op & can echo everything everyone has said in the previous posts, but also she says the worst thing the co-op did was install the self serve tills. People seem to think it's ok to scan a couple of items & bag the rest without paying. They get away with it and it becomes the norm.

[Dreadnought]

9 minutes ago, SecretPro said:

I'm not surprised Co op are failing

 

Co Op on London Road is a free for all. I see the same 4 or 5 characters rob it blind most weeks at some point. The other week a lad filled two baskets and staff just told him to hurry up and get out. They got rid of the security guy in the end because he wasnt allowed to challenge theives so it was pointless. The staff just routinely ask them to leave and let them take the goods, said they do nothing about it if it’s under £500 worth. Also said they are targeted about 4 times a day and lose about £7,000 a week. That's not sustainable. Exactly the same at the small Tesco near the Abberdale pub too I'm told. 

I see it in the London Road coop regularly too. Prior to the screens round the checkout being put up I saw two blokes jump over the counter, grab a few bottles of spirits and walk (not run) out of the shop!

[boots60]

24 minutes ago, Parafox said:

 

I think it's more likely that "local shops for local people" (yes, I know the series) will become more combined general stores/post offices/parcel receipt/return points and in that way will serve the close community in which they have a presence. 

 

The local shop, in terms of an independent shopkeeper, will likely succumb to franchises such as Nisa, GoLocal, OneStop etc and your friendly neighbourhood grocer who knows you by name, will either have to become a franchisee or sell out to another who will.

This horse has bolted long ago.

Most medium size villages now have in effect the co-op/nisa etc. to rely on for their groceries.

The independent shopkeeper is becoming extinct in the villages.

[SecretPro]

14 minutes ago, Dreadnought said:

I see it in the London Road coop regularly too. Prior to the screens round the checkout being put up I saw two blokes jump over the counter, grab a few bottles of spirits and walk (not run) out of the shop!

Yep, they literally saunter out a snails pace and even just carry on hanging around outside 

 

Trouble is, once you allow that, word gets around and then everybody knows its a piss easy target. 

Edited 8 November 2024 by SecretPro

[Lako42]

So essentially it's becoming a lawless society where people can do what they like. 

 

There's no stopping this. It's a race to the bottom for society.