Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 19 June 2013 Posted 19 June 2013 Why? Got more time for them than I have for someone like PSG but just don't agree with the way they've pretty much fluked having some mega backer. I must also point out I think the complete same about Leicester although thankfully we've calmed down a bit in that sense. It's just this whole inconsistent, uneducated 'anti-modern football' mindset that needs repeating and repeating to the point it grows tiresome after a while.
Danno Posted 19 June 2013 Posted 19 June 2013 It's just this whole inconsistent, uneducated 'anti-modern football' mindset that needs repeating and repeating to the point it grows tiresome after a while.Don't worry, he's negative about absolutely everything
Harry - LCFC Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 It's just this whole inconsistent, uneducated 'anti-modern football' mindset that needs repeating and repeating to the point it grows tiresome after a while. The AMF narrative is mostly carried out be working class fans who have been hit hardest by football's modernisation i.e. rising ticket prices, they speak up more than most and as such the support for the movement isn't very articulate at times. AMF does raise some very important points though - ticket prices and standing at matches are things that many fans would like to see corrected as part of the reversal of some aspects of the game we have today. I don't think you should assume that the AMF way of thinking is nonsense, it's a group speaking out against something much like political pressure groups outside Westminster. There are probably parts of it that you agree with.
Mack Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 So many people throw around on here the German Football model, how the spending with gay abandon is wrong.... blah blah blah. Then we get a team that has been throwing obscene money around like confetti and people cum in their pants! Well I'm not buying! And apart from Falcao the mercenary going to a second tier league for money they don't have much else anyway.... until the owner throws another lorry load of cash at another mercenary. Will Monaco bring any fans to this? They don't have any fans at home!
Jim92 Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 So many people throw around on here the German Football model, how the spending with gay abandon is wrong.... blah blah blah. Then we get a team that has been throwing obscene money around like confetti and people cum in their pants! Well I'm not buying! And apart from Falcao the mercenary going to a second tier league for money they don't have much else anyway.... until the owner throws another lorry load of cash at another mercenary. They don't have any fans at home! I respect your team, so do the same please. Monaco football history is not too bad when you compare it with yours. Falcao did not choose Monaco only for the money (Man City could offer the same thing). He wanted to be in this project, to have a team build around and for him. Because we do not play any european cup, it is a way for him to be not too exhausted for the world cup. He wanted also to be in a very quiet environment for his new baby. We have a lot of fan away.
indierich06 Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 I respect your team, so do the same please. Monaco football history is not too bad when you compare it with yours. Falcao did not choose Monaco only for the money (Man City could offer the same thing). He wanted to be in this project, to have a team build around and for him. Because we do not play any european cup, it is a way for him to be not too exhausted for the world cup. He wanted also to be in a very quiet environment for his new baby. We have a lot of fan away. I don't really mind, but I think Falcao went to Monaco for the money and the fact that tax laws are so slack there too. I know there's a 'project' but any footballer coming into his prime should want to play at the highest level possible, and to be honest, the French league isn't that good and - like you say - Monaco aren't even in a European cup competition. He's either doing it for the money, or he's extremely unambitious.
Callabinho Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Also Falcao wants his dream move to Madrid, moving straight there from Atletico is taking the piss slightly. One thing big Wes won't do is beat him in the air. He is insanely good in the air!
fazzyfox Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Will Monaco bring any fans to this? They can sail over and park their luxury yachts on the canal and pay local kids a fiver to keep an eye on them during the match. On a completely unrelated note I'm holding a sale of luxury yachts that day, no idea where the stock will be coming from
Libertine Dream Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 I respect your team, so do the same please. Monaco football history is not too bad when you compare it with yours. Falcao did not choose Monaco only for the money (Man City could offer the same thing). He wanted to be in this project, to have a team build around and for him. Because we do not play any european cup, it is a way for him to be not too exhausted for the world cup. He wanted also to be in a very quiet environment for his new baby. We have a lot of fan away. Man City would struggle to offer the same thing simply because of the tax breaks in Monaco compare to the near 50% of your earnings here being taxed. It would not be possible to offer the same if they want to adhere to Uefa's financial fair play
Jay Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Man City would struggle to offer the same thing simply because of the tax breaks in Monaco compare to the near 50% of your earnings here being taxed. It would not be possible to offer the same if they want to adhere to Uefa's financial fair play or 75% for other French Teams like PSG adding to the the fact he is 55% owned by a third party who probably made close to £30million tax free from the transfer and agent fees.
Dan Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 It's just this whole inconsistent, uneducated 'anti-modern football' mindset that needs repeating and repeating to the point it grows tiresome after a while. Tiresome maybe, won't change what I think though. Don't worry, he's negative about absolutely everything It really is amazing how selective some of you lot are.
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 We did not play so well in Ligue 2 it was not easy at all. These players were good enough for Ligue 2, but not for Ligue 1, that's why our president is investing a lot on top players. I think it will be great for a humble team like Leicester City to play a relatively big team like Monaco, looking forward to it personally
Dan Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Howcome Monaco dropped so much in the first place? I always had them down as one of the best sides in France.
Guest MattP Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Don't worry, he's negative about absolutely everything That's just simply not true. As for AMF bring 'tiresome' - good, I hope football fans are fighting until their last dying breath to save all our traditional clubs being plunged into debt and instability by foreign mercenaries completely intent on using them as toys and fashion accessories until they get bored. Go and ask a Pompey fan if they find it tiresome now.
Jim92 Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 First, I was really please by the different messages and I do not why, I found last messages quite aggressive against Monaco.I am not going to go to a fight with you, I came in peace and to get some information about your club. It was an friendly approach. Concerning the fact that we do not pay tax as in France it is something known and an agreeement between to independant countries, since the French league has accepted Monaco to play in Ligue 1 80 years ago. These advantages are not new. The 75% tax is only a project, the law is still not voted.And yes we have now a lot of money. But how to attract top players to play for a team just promoted in Ligue 1 this year and without any european cup?Our president is very ambitious and wants to become a major club in europe asap. For that there is no secret, you need money. All majors club in europe are rich.It is important also for the French Ligue 1. As you said, currently our Ligue 1 is not major in europe, but with teams like PSG and ASMFC things can change in the near future. So we need top players to build this project, that's it.
Dan Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 I'm not questioning at all why Monaco have done it. The chance for a side that have just come up from Ligue 2 to have players like Falcao & Moutinho is one you would never pass up - I just simply disagree with it. Don't think there's really much aggression either - I'm looking forward to the game and it'll be an excellent test for our players.
Churchill Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Looking forward to Boro away more personally, this game will be full of non Leicester fans just wanting to see the big names... Still its a decent game for us i suppose.
Jim92 Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Looking forward to Boro away more personally, this game will be full of non Leicester fans just wanting to see the big names... Still its a decent game for us i suppose. and also, at least, 2 Monaco fans, with me and my son, so not just for the big names
Jim92 Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 I'm not questioning at all why Monaco have done it. The chance for a side that have just come up from Ligue 2 to have players like Falcao & Moutinho is one you would never pass up - I just simply disagree with it. Don't think there's really much aggression either - I'm looking forward to the game and it'll be an excellent test for our players. We spent only 2 years in Ligue 2. We have quite a good record in european cups during the 90s until 2005, with many good and top players, so it is not like we were a small club just promoted in Ligue 1 for the 1st time. I can understand your point of view, but imagine that a rich guy invests in your club and with this money he can attract top players, are you going to stop to support your team? Sorry for the term "aggressive", my english is not enough good so forgive me if I did not use the right word.
Dan Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 We spent only 2 years in Ligue 2. We have quite a good record in european cups during the 90s until 2005, with many good and top players, so it is not like we were a small club just promoted in Ligue 1 for the 1st time. I can understand your point of view, but imagine that a rich guy invests in your club and with this money he can attract top players, are you going to stop to support your team? Sorry for the term "aggressive", my english is not enough good so forgive me if I did not use the right word. You did have previous success, I can remember you being in the Champions League final as well which is a very good achievement. I have more time for Monaco who actually had success rather than PSG - PSG had won a pathetic TWO titles before their owner came along. I couldn't believe how badly they have done. We have spent a lot of money ourselves. I still don't agree with it. I understand Monaco aren't the only ones and are no worse than PSG, Man City, Chelsea, Anzhi, Zenit and clubs like that, it's a sign of the times, I just personally think having someone come in with no ties to a club and spending huge money is unfair. Like I say, Leicester have spent a lot of money on players thanks to foreign owners - but I still don't agree with it at all.
Guest MattP Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Sorry for the term "aggressive", my english is not enough good so forgive me if I did not use the right word. Your English is better than 80% of the people who use this forum.
Jim92 Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 Your English is better than 80% of the people who use this forum. Thanks a lot
MC Prussian Posted 20 June 2013 Posted 20 June 2013 First, I was really please by the different messages and I do not why, I found last messages quite aggressive against Monaco. I am not going to go to a fight with you, I came in peace and to get some information about your club. It was an friendly approach. Concerning the fact that we do not pay tax as in France it is something known and an agreeement between to independant countries, since the French league has accepted Monaco to play in Ligue 1 80 years ago. These advantages are not new. The 75% tax is only a project, the law is still not voted. And yes we have now a lot of money. But how to attract top players to play for a team just promoted in Ligue 1 this year and without any european cup? Our president is very ambitious and wants to become a major club in europe asap. For that there is no secret, you need money. All majors club in europe are rich. It is important also for the French Ligue 1. As you said, currently our Ligue 1 is not major in europe, but with teams like PSG and ASMFC things can change in the near future. So we need top players to build this project, that's it. I quite like Monaco, only been there once (and only briefly) on my way to Menton and Liguria and I wish your club all the best in the upcoming Ligue 1 season (even though I fancy Nantes more than you lot ). Basically, it all boils down to a certain fear factor whenever football fans see an "investor" buy up a (once famous) club and splashing the cash like crazy. I do hope for you and Monaco that the money's spent wisely and not in desperate ways in order to gain immediate success - many other clubs have crumbled because of that burden. Here's to a terrific game of football in late July with a great atmosphere, great weather and an attractive scoreline. Peut-être qu'on s'y verra.
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