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[The Year Of The Fox]

For the terrorist

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-23024836

[leicsmac]

Well aren't you edgy and controversial?

 

The apartheid regime in SA was one of the most repugnant seen on this planet since Nazi Germany.

[Larry_LCFC]

Idiot. Have some respect.

[Jon the Hat]

One Man's freedom fighter and all that. To the victor the spoils though, and he won that's for sure.

[flowwolf]

One Man's freedom fighter and all that. To the victor the spoils though, and he won that's for sure.

 

 

Yes he won his very own park in Leicester.  Could not care less. Mind you that Winnie was a dab hand at child murder.

[Fox92]

Being honest when I say, I still don't know what he actually did.

[MooseBreath]

Mandela's status in this country is largely a manifestation of your white middle class liberal's self-loathing. If he was himself white he wouldn't get half of the praise he gets now.

[Finnegan]

Mandela's status in this country is largely a manifestation of your white middle class liberal's self-loathing. If he was white he wouldn't get half of the praise he gets now.

any opportunity for a bit of trolling.

[Finnegan]

By the way, white, middle-class liberals? Watch how many of the Conservatives that bemoaned any criticism of "a dead, old woman" as sick spring out of the woodwork now.

[Jon the Hat]

By the way, white, middle-class liberals? Watch how many of the Conservatives that bemoaned any criticism of "a dead, old woman" as sick spring out of the woodwork now.

 

It was the celebration of the death of the sick old woman that people objected to, not criticism of her politics or governance.

 

I dont see anyone celebrating Mandela's death?  Noting that he was a controversial figure in World politics is different.

[Jimothy]

It was the celebration of the death of the sick old woman that people objected to, not criticism of her politics or governance.

I dont see anyone celebrating Mandela's death? Noting that he was a controversial figure in World politics is different.

[ADK]

I wouldn't describe him as controversial. He's almost universally respected unless you are a white supremacist.

[DennisNedry]

I don't really know what he did to be honest

[The Horse's Mouth]

Mandela's status in this country is largely a manifestation of your white middle class liberal's self-loathing. If he was himself white he wouldn't get half of the praise he gets now.

You're hilarious.

[HEGGSY]

I don't really know what he did to be honest

This, also.

[harpendenfox]

For those who don't know what he did, briefly:

he symbolised a nation's (South Africa) struggle against apartheid, a system which defined blacks, legally, as second class citizens. For his beliefs he spent nearly 30 years in prison. He was respected throughout the world for his dignity. When apartheid crumbled and he was released from prison he continued to behave with dignity, urging reconciliation, and was heralded by white and black alike in South Africa, and indeed globally.

I'm 46, and consider him to be the greatest man to have lived during my lifetime. I went to a celebration concert at the old Wembley stadium not long after his release. Much to everyone's surprise he was there, and when this was announced, and the spotlight fell on him, I truly felt as if I was in the presence of greatness.

He has lived a truly extraordinary life, one that deserves our respect.

[Rincewind]

any opportunity for a bit of trolling.

 

 

[Zingari]

Being honest when I say, I still don't know what he actually did.

Some say he was a violent blood thirsty terrorist who actively campaigned to replace a regime that gave order and wealth, with a regime that could only ever supply anarchy and poverty.  Converted a prosperous, safe and stable community into an impoverished, unstable and dangerous community.

 

Others say he was a freedom fighter , a virtual saint who transformed the cruel aparteid regime into a free and open nation .

 

 

Basically he is ( at the moment anyhow ) a living legend who can be portrayed pretty much all along the spectrum according to how you want to view him .

 

To me he was the bloke on the t shirts saying " free Nelson Mandela" who  made me a few quid selling them to gullible stoodenty types .

[Webbo]

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