Charl91 Posted 24 July 2013 Posted 24 July 2013 As the old saying goes - God made mother and father, not Adam and Steve. The day that a man can scream YABADABADOO whilst sperminating up another mans sphincter, creating a baby in the process, is the day that I'll believe having two dads is normal. I know some lesbos who have children, so I'm not racist. Oh, and Tatchell is a demon-child. All the famous and powerful lobbies are full of them. There's no such thing as God.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 There's no such thing as God. All right clever clogs, prove it to us. Of course you can't, no more than I could prove there is. It's all about what one believes.
Charl91 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 All right clever clogs, prove it to us. Of course you can't, no more than I could prove there is. It's all about what one believes. In that case, prove to me that the tooth fairy doesn't exist. There's a lot more proof that there isn't an Adam and Eve then there is one. If you choose to believe that the world is 6,000 years old, and that Adam lived till he was 930, then that's your perogative I suppose. When choosing which side of an argument to support, I generally choose the one with the most evidence. It's logical really. The day that evidence supporting the idea of God outweighs the contrary is the day that I become religious. I doubt that happens though. Edit: Typo
Zingari Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 All right clever clogs, prove it to us. Of course you can't, no more than I could prove there is. It's all about what one believes. That's all fine and dandy as long as all you want to do is believe in a God .You and everyone else should be totally at liberty to do so. The problems occur when people think they have a hotline to this God and want to tell us how to live our lives . Therefore the onus is on the believers to convince the rest of us that it really is a god dishing out the orders , or mere deluded mortals
Parafox Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 In that case, prove to me that the tooth fair doesn't exist. Is that anything like the Goose fair? Is it full of people who are down in the mouth?
Mark_w Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 When choosing which side of an argument to support, I generally choose the one with the most evidence. It's logical really. You're talking to Dangerous Tiger! Plenty have tried to get him to think like that, all have failed.
BoneDog Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 There's no such thing as God. Well, I'm afraid that that is one debate that will keep the greatest minds busy until the last human walks the earth. It's been busying the minds of greats for thousands of years and that will be the case forever more. There's a lot more proof that there isn't an Adam and Eve then there is one. If you choose to believe that the world is 6,000 years old, and that Adam lived till he was 930, then that's your perogative I suppose. When choosing which side of an argument to support, I generally choose the one with the most evidence. It's logical really. The day that evidence supporting the idea of God outweighs the contrary is the day that I become religious. I doubt that happens though. Hard evidence for the random and unguided appearance of 'everything', and the unguided assembly of all living things - plants, insects, humans etc. - is wafer thin and is crumbling as we speak, all thanks to modern science. Darwinism is 'blind faith' based on faux scientific bs, and long after Darwinism is laughed at by future scientists there will still be a large percentage of perfectly intelligent folk on earth who believe in something out there more powerful than ourselves.
Rincewind Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 So the evidence for an invisible man that waved a big hand to make everything appear is stronger?
Guest MattP Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 So the evidence for an invisible man that waved a big hand to make everything appear is stronger? Happened to me when I won the lottery on Beadles about.
purpleronnie Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Blimey the god debate has been done before on here, theres a thread if you want to revive it.....much like jesus.
Charl91 Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 To get it back on topic a little - the argument that "God created Adam and Eve" is an awful argument against gay marriage/adoption and shouldn't factor into the debate at all. I might as well claim that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't let me talk to black people.
The Doctor Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 To get it back on topic a little - the argument that "God created Adam and Eve" is an awful argument against gay marriage/adoption and shouldn't factor into the debate at all. I might as well claim that the Loch Ness Monster doesn't let me talk to black people. Well he is Scottish, so what do you expect? Well, I'm afraid that that is one debate that will keep the greatest minds busy until the last human walks the earth. It's been busying the minds of greats for thousands of years and that will be the case forever more. Hard evidence for the random and unguided appearance of 'everything', and the unguided assembly of all living things - plants, insects, humans etc. - is wafer thin and is crumbling as we speak, all thanks to modern science. Darwinism is 'blind faith' based on faux scientific bs, and long after Darwinism is laughed at by future scientists there will still be a large percentage of perfectly intelligent folk on earth who believe in something out there more powerful than ourselves. Firstly - it's not faux-scientific bs, there is a **** ton of evidence for it: ERV's conclusively prove common ancestry, we can use them to trace our ancestry back to the divergence between fish and everything else, we can track our change through the fossil record - dating the changes as we go on thanks to radiometric dating. We can even force evolution in the lab, or to a small degree on the farm (what do you think selective breeding is?) Those who still deny it are ****ing retards, every single thing we find supports evolution - it is on stronger ground that gravity - science has found nothing against it and keeps finding more and more for it. Oh, and hate to burst your bubble, but it looks like religion could have gone the way of the dodo by 2041: http://guardianlv.com/2013/07/religion-to-disappear-by-2041-claims-new-study/
Rincewind Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Saw a programme the other night about students that were interested in science but came from ridgud Chrustian famolies. They went to a college where they taught Creative Design but they still questioned it and gave them a dilemma. They wanted to learn more but did not want to go against their teachings from parents. Showed one father and stugent having a discussion which went the student saying he wanted to know how God did things and the Father saying it does not matter, its in the Bible so its true and God says that knowledge is an instriment of the Devil and he tries to make people believe lies. That is an easy way to get out of thinking.
MooseBreath Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Ridgod chrustian famolies, eh? http://jessicajanebarlow.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/david-cameron1.jpg
21st Century Fox Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Creative Design Sorry Ken I'm just picturing lots of kids finger-painting pictures of God.
Rincewind Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 Creative Design Sorry Ken I'm just picturing lots of kids finger-painting pictures of God. Isn't that what God's handiwork is known as? Some Creationist are saying that. They now agree in some ways to evolution but vthat their invisible friend made the template., If it wasn't for all the other stuff I'd accept them saying it. So they want to call the Big Bang God, Allah Thor or whatever. It is just a name. I prefer the female version, Mother Nature you can't argue with her. She is wonderful and like a beautiful woman. No matter what she throws at you you still admire her. The male one is old hat and it's time for a change. Why look for faries at the bottom of your garden when it is wonderful the way it is.
21st Century Fox Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 I believe it's Intelligent Design. I remember being given a magazine by a pair of Jevovah's Witnesses which was attributed to the Watchtower Society that tried to explain Intelligent Design. It was hilarious and basically boiled down to "well God did invent Evolution".
Rincewind Posted 25 July 2013 Posted 25 July 2013 I believe it's Intelligent Design. I remember being given a magazine by a pair of Jehovah's Witnesses which was attributed to the Watchtower Society that tried to explain Intelligent Design. It was hilarious and basically boiled down to "well God did invent Evolution". Yes that's it I forgot it had the word intelligent in it. It's a good cop out though. I think that is what college kids in America are turning to so to please their families while pursuing the sciences. One of the blokes that help with our radio show is a priest of a small church. But it has no domination. He is a decent bloke and does a lot of good helping people in his neighbourhood. He did a little sermon today where he said he doesn't care what faith or non-faith you are if you want to talk to someone he is there. I have some of the same thoughts but without the God bit You tend to find a lot of preople that have had trouble in their life, depression etc turn to a God. A lot of prisoners are religios. I don't get it and never will.
Father Ted Posted 7 August 2013 Posted 7 August 2013 Here are some well-known heterosexual couples: Ian Brady & Myra Hindley; Fred & Rose West; Ian Huntley & Maxine Carr. Maybe, instead of prioritizing the sexuality of the adoptive parents, it would be an idea to prioritize their ability to be responsible, loving, nurturing, flexible parents? It should also be stressed that there is a major shortage of adoptive parents, particularly for children, as opposed to babies. As for "normal", heterosexual is "normal" to me and presumably to you, as part of the heterosexual majority, but for a significant minority of people homosexual is "normal"....and remember (a) many adoptees are children of school age, not babies; (b) many people are aware of their sexuality by age 8 or 9, probably most by age 13...why should straight parents be deemed better suited to bring up a gay schoolchild? In truth, how important is the sexuality of our parents? I didn't witness much overtly sexual conduct between my parents, apart from the odd kiss and cuddle. Surely, the provision of security, affection and good guidance tailored to the individual child is more important, regardless of sexuality. If the sexuality of the child happens to be different from that of the parents (e.g. my gay nephew v. his straight parents), either the parents will adapt to help their child grow up - or the child will find guidance elsewhere. I'm sorry but one thing for certain about homosexuals is that they cannot reproduce. Therefore, they should lose any right to have any children in any way. It is natural and so they should not be allowed to adopt children.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 7 August 2013 Posted 7 August 2013 That's all fine and dandy as long as all you want to do is believe in a God .You and everyone else should be totally at liberty to do so. The problems occur when people think they have a hotline to this God and want to tell us how to live our lives . Therefore the onus is on the believers to convince the rest of us that it really is a god dishing out the orders , or mere deluded mortals Well, I certainly do not have a hotline to God. As I said, it is what one believes in. Its quite simple to understand.
DANGEROUS TIGER Posted 7 August 2013 Posted 7 August 2013 I'm sorry but one thing for certain about homosexuals is that they cannot reproduce. Therefore, they should lose any right to have any children in any way. It is natural and so they should not be allowed to adopt children. This.
purpleronnie Posted 7 August 2013 Posted 7 August 2013 I'm sorry but one thing for certain about homosexuals is that they cannot reproduce. Therefore, they should lose any right to have any children in any way. It is natural and so they should not be allowed to adopt children. ^^^^^ what a wally.
Harry - LCFC Posted 7 August 2013 Posted 7 August 2013 I'm sorry but one thing for certain about homosexuals is that they cannot reproduce. Therefore, they should lose any right to have any children in any way. It is natural and so they should not be allowed to adopt children. The most important thing to look at when assessing potential foster parents is how capable they are of bringing up a child - I'd hope everyone would agree with that. Being gay doesn't inhibit someone's ability to be a good parent and I guarantee you there are homosexuals out there who would make better parents than some heterosexuals. Yet you would seek to stop the better parent (in some cases) from having a child because they're lifestyle doesn't allow them to have one naturally i.e. ignoring the most important factor. I don't subscribe to this "can't do it naturally, shouldn't do it" way of thinking at all - there are many 'unnatural' activities we do everyday that don't fit with life's purpose of sustaining itself. There are women out there who are born unable to get pregnant naturally yet I doubt you'd stop them from adopting.
The Doctor Posted 7 August 2013 Posted 7 August 2013 I believe it's Intelligent Design. I remember being given a magazine by a pair of Jevovah's Witnesses which was attributed to the Watchtower Society that tried to explain Intelligent Design. It was hilarious and basically boiled down to "well God did invent Evolution". Yes that's it I forgot it had the word intelligent in it. It's a good cop out though. I think that is what college kids in America are turning to so to please their families while pursuing the sciences. One of the blokes that help with our radio show is a priest of a small church. But it has no domination. He is a decent bloke and does a lot of good helping people in his neighbourhood. He did a little sermon today where he said he doesn't care what faith or non-faith you are if you want to talk to someone he is there. I have some of the same thoughts but without the God bit You tend to find a lot of preople that have had trouble in their life, depression etc turn to a God. A lot of prisoners are religios. I don't get it and never will. It's known as Intelligent design, or bullshit - whichever takes your fancy. And to show just how unintelligent it is: The Recurrent Laryngeal Nerve: In order to connect to the larynx it goes down past it quite a bit, loops underneath the aorta and comes back up. Not so much of a problem for us, the distance between aorta and larynx isn't overly big in humans but in the likes of giraffes...
Rincewind Posted 7 August 2013 Posted 7 August 2013 Some people are bornwith male and female parts. The part they are least comfortable with can be removed. The human body is a complex thing. A mish mash of cells thrown together by nature. It is only genes and genetic code that stops us sprouting six arms. But you never know in 10000 years we may need them and hey presto the DNA has changed.
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