Jamie Oliver questions food poverty

[Zingari]

You lot were spoilt !! 

[21st Century Fox]

"The best we could manage was to suck on a piece of damp cloth".

[Zingari]

a handful of cold gravel was a luxury to us 

[21st Century Fox]

We had two bits of cold gravel and then got thrashed to sleep with belt.

[I am Rod Hull]

We had two bits of cold gravel and then got thrashed to sleep with belt.

 

You were lucky, our dad used to slice us in two with a bread knife..

[Zingari]

We had two bits of cold gravel and then got thrashed to sleep with belt.

pfft we only got that on special occasions !!

 

our dad would slice us in 2 with t' breadknife !!

 

 

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too late 

[Merging Cultures]

A lot of immigrants come here because they get paid more for doing the same job here than they do at home. If they can get money browsing facebook / standing around doing nothing, then they are just as likely to do that as British workers.

 

I've met plenty of lazy immigrants, they come here for the £ not to show the world they can clean streets quicker than anyone else.

 

As an immigrant to the US who worked a desk job I can agree, that yes, I could browse facebook and be as lazy as the next employee.

 

However, having observed immigrants globally in what are typically low paid, low skilled jobs, there often isn't the opportunity to browse facebook, and if they did then due to most labour laws not really protecting those types of workers, they would be easily replaced by someone who would work harder.

 

Yes they come here for the money. They also know that there are a bunch of other immigrants here for the money who would do the job in a minute and a 10p an hour cheaper. Hence why wages are low, why no British worker is willing to do those jobs and why immigrants work their butts off to keep the jobs.

[Merging Cultures]

I was not looking for it. Some people are just not gifted that way. I have succeeded in other ways but it took a long while to convince myself that I was better than those who knocked me down. I can now confidently give them a two finger salute and say up yours. I hope along with the people that I work with I am able to install self confidence in those that need a boost so they can feel better about themselves and achieve their goals.

 

I agree some people are not going to do well with traditional exams and study. I believe that is why the education system moved towards coursework etc. Personally I have always been lazy at school and have done poorly on coursework but have been able to retain knowledge for final exams. Hence, the coursework I did brought down my final grades. I am sure for some people their coursework brought up their grades. Plus you can choose from a wide selection of subjects these days. Should be able to find something, and a course style, that fits with your aptitude.

 

Horses for courses. 

[Merging Cultures]

Too right, I was brought on on grub like that. I'm not joking when I say I was a teenager before I found out spaghetti didn't just come in tins. Friday was always crisp sandwiches. flippin' sight cheaper than McDonalds.

 

I still have crisp sandwiches too.

[Smudge]

I agree some people are not going to do well with traditional exams and study. I believe that is why the education system moved towards coursework etc. Personally I have always been lazy at school and have done poorly on coursework but have been able to retain knowledge for final exams. Hence, the coursework I did brought down my final grades. I am sure for some people their coursework brought up their grades. Plus you can choose from a wide selection of subjects these days. Should be able to find something, and a course style, that fits with your aptitude.

 

Horses for courses. 

Saute de Cheval au Poivre?

[Vlad the Fox]

I'll raise you dripping sandwiches for the main meal and sugar sandwiches for afters.

And a quickly knocked together bowl of raw crumble mixture for desert.

[Rincewind]

I agree some people are not going to do well with traditional exams and study. I believe that is why the education system moved towards coursework etc. Personally I have always been lazy at school and have done poorly on coursework but have been able to retain knowledge for final exams. Hence, the coursework I did brought down my final grades. I am sure for some people their coursework brought up their grades. Plus you can choose from a wide selection of subjects these days. Should be able to find something, and a course style, that fits with your aptitude.

 

Horses for courses. 

Yes in 2013 the choices are great, but in 1965-67 not so great. I do part time work for a community media newspaper. I would not have stood a chance entering the sector when I left school. We offer the chance of course held at Radio Leicester for journalism for anyone that has experience issues such as breakdowns abusive relationships to regain some self respect and live a normal life. Some may mock that but 50 years ago the opportunity was not there so it can only be good and positive.

I sometimes wonder if every one at school should be expected to go for uni.  may be obvious which ones have the aptitude to study. Some may better suited for a trade such as plumbing, building etc.

In a way I regret not learning to drive. I did have lessons but I did not have the co-ordination to work the clutch gears and brake. Three of the most important aspects of driving well. Add concentration and alertness and if you don't get it right there will be an accident at some point. I would not like being a driver today but work revolving around driving is endless even if its doing car boot sales. But that is in the past. If I had drove I may have wrapped a car round a tree by now so would not be tying this. Good for you, bad for me.

[Webbo]

I wasn't a natural driver, I wasn't a natural tradesman either. I had to learn how to do both. You can't just give up on something because it doesn't come easy(apart from the guitar).

[Rincewind]

I wasn't a natural driver, I wasn't a natural tradesman either. I had to learn how to do both. You can't just give up on something because it doesn't come easy(apart from the guitar).

Not what my instructor said. I was advised to give up for my safety and his. I thought it was good advice at the time.

[Smudge]

Yes in 2013 the choices are great, but in 1965-67 not so great. I do part time work for a community media newspaper. I would not have stood a chance entering the sector when I left school. We offer the chance of course held at Radio Leicester for journalism for anyone that has experience issues such as breakdowns abusive relationships to regain some self respect and live a normal life. Some may mock that but 50 years ago the opportunity was not there so it can only be good and positive.

I sometimes wonder if every one at school should be expected to go for uni. may be obvious which ones have the aptitude to study. Some may better suited for a trade such as plumbing, building etc.

In a way I regret not learning to drive. I did have lessons but I did not have the co-ordination to work the clutch gears and brake. Three of the most important aspects of driving well. Add concentration and alertness and if you don't get it right there will be an accident at some point. I would not like being a driver today but work revolving around driving is endless even if its doing car boot sales. But that is in the past. If I had drove I may have wrapped a car round a tree by now so would not be tying this. Good for you, bad for me.

Mate, can't agree with that, I'm a bit older than you but by and large we come from the same education base. I went to junior school in the City. We moved to Birstall at high school age and went to Barrow. I left at the age of 16; I had enough of teachers who thought they should have been teaching at Eton strutting around in black robes spouting "Dark Sarcasm" as Roger Waters described it. I took 9 GCE o'levels and failed all but metalwork. I wasn't stupid I just didn't apply myself at school.

I got a job as a junior draughtsman and went to night school, which I attended for 6 years. Now that's a hard way to learn; work all day then three nights a week studying.

At 18 applied to four companies in and around Leicester including the company that built the M1 around the City, they hired me and trained me to be an engineer, setting out line and level for the earth-moving machines and then laying asphalt. I won't bore you with the rest but I can assure you there were lots of opportunities to get a good job in the 60's and loads of classes at technical schools. My career blossomed and 've done quite well.

So what's the difference Ken? Not upbringing, my dad was an electrician and my mum a waitress and as I said our education must have been similar.

[Rincewind]

I was shy. I can't explain it as it was years ago and I am a lot different now. It never occurred to me or my parents to push me into higher education. Maybe they thought me backward. I just wasn't a mixer. My reports always said a trier.

My first job was on Abbey park. After four Month I asked anout a course at brooksby college but they finished me instead saying I was not suiyed. All I did was walk around with a hand lawn mower cutting the edge parts and chop some wood or shovel manure. One okdish bloke tried to teach me the Latin names of flowers. I was not a fan of gardening but if I had gone to college for it I would have given it my all. I may have grown to appreciate it.

[Smudge]

I was shy. I can't explain it as it was years ago and I am a lot different now. It never occurred to me or my parents to push me into higher education. Maybe they thought me backward. I just wasn't a mixer. My reports always said a trier.

My first job was on Abbey park. After four Month I asked anout a course at brooksby college but they finished me instead saying I was not suiyed. All I did was walk around with a hand lawn mower cutting the edge parts and chop some wood or shovel manure. One okdish bloke tried to teach me the Latin names of flowers. I was not a fan of gardening but if I had gone to college for it I would have given it my all. I may have grown to appreciate it.

Whatever happened there's no turning back or have regrets. You are well thought of on here and no doubt with your charity works colleagues. You're making your mark, success is measured by any amount of things and I believe you are doing something we can't all do. We need carers in this world as well as A type personalities.

[Kitchandro]

And you get a decent pasta meal from a ready meal? Jesus, stop making excuses.

 

You can get better tasting ready meals than a pasta done badly.

 

It's very easy to do badly.

[Rincewind]

Thanks. I thinl I was a little over protected. I even damaged the family bike. My elder brother had it. I was practicinh one day down an hikk on Begrave boulivard and buckled the wheels. It was then passed on to my younger brother. got nicked a few years later.

I don't have regrets and this is not a 'poor me' How does the song go?

I am what I am .........

I've done things others would not. My brother has said he admires me as i have gone on holiday on my own weitten stuff and other things he would not do so thats good enough for me.

[Haydos]

You can get better tasting ready meals than a pasta done badly.

 

It's very easy to do badly.

 

Even if you don't make your sauce you just boil some tagliatelle and pour some dolmio in, it's not hard. That's a meal for like 50p. Add whatever you want for flavour/bulk. Ready meals cost £1.50-£3.00 if you're not buying value ones.

[Kitchandro]

Even if you don't make your sauce you just boil some tagliatelle and pour some dolmio in, it's not hard. That's a meal for like 50p. Add whatever you want for flavour/bulk. Ready meals cost £1.50-£3.00 if you're not buying value ones.

 

Trust me most people haven't got a clue what flavour is. Most of my friends turn their noses up because I put salt in things.

 

I'm not saying it can't be cheap, but the most important thing will always be taste.

[Merging Cultures]

This is a very interesting thread, it's nice to learn more about fellow foxed talkers!

[Vlad the Fox]

Trust me most people haven't got a clue what flavour is. Most of my friends turn their noses up because I put salt in things.

I'm not saying it can't be cheap, but the most important thing will always be taste.

Ha ha salt fear. The amount of bland dishes made because people are scared of salt when seasoning their dishes.

[DANGEROUS TIGER]

Certainly didn't have many choices in the sixties, when it came to education. I certainly had a variation of jobs though in Imports, banking (twice), retailing, dry cleaning, paper making, and PCSO.

 

I just never found a positive objective in life. The only work I really enjoyed was the last one, as I felt I was contributing to society, 

 

I have always felt that I let myself down, and wasted most of my life. Not a very nice feeling.

[Rincewind]

Certainly didn't have many choices in the sixties, when it came to education. I certainly had a variation of jobs though in Imports, banking (twice), retailing, dry cleaning, paper making, and PCSO.

 

I just never found a positive objective in life. The only work I really enjoyed was the last one, as I felt I was contributing to society, 

 

I have always felt that I let myself down, and wasted most of my life. Not a very nice feeling.

I'm sure you have other qualities doesn't he Moose?

 

I have some spaghetti in the kitchen cupboard and bought some Sainsbury's mince £1.4l6 and Sainsbury's bolognaise sauce 47p and for wine alternative I have a can of San Miguel in the fridge.